Burning Cartomisers? Dangerous?-510/Kr808/4081...etc filler type cartos

[Katya]

Howdy cowboy!

So are you back to making your cartomizers yet? Or are you still too weak?

 

[Kent C]

I love those whistle tip mouthpieces...

The reasons I didn't get the eGo-CC:

1) It's big.

2) It's expensive.

2) The eGo-c coil heads don't seem to deliver as much easy vapor (in eGo-C atties) as the BCC Kangers, so I didn't want to get another device that uses them. But I may give it a try.

The draw is a bit tighter than the Kangers (I give up on mini-PTs because of that) and the vapor is pretty good but yeah, not quite like the Tabac BCC's. The eGo-c coil units/heads work better on the cc than the c and again, no burning at all. Wish the size was smaller too... and yeah, it's probably not worth the cost vs. Kangers. And the replacement heads costs more as well. But I'm keeping my two until I run out of A type heads. I think the flavor is better too - perhaps too good for a few of my flavors that taste better in the Tabacs. HR for one.

 

[Kent C]

It's good hearing from you Kent. We haven't swapped tales with each other for some time now.

I recently saw the ad for the joyetech eGo-cc clearomizer and wondered how well it worked. Naturally I like the location of the air intake, since my latest Masterpiece also has it at the top. Of course, the battery connection on mine is also bone dry, as are several of my earlier designs with the air intake on the the side of the fitting. But then, the lack of juice can be somewhat aggravating. As stated in an earlier post, a thin layer of corrosion builds up on the positive contact and has to be scraped off to make a connection. I use GM's Dielectric Lubricant on the fitting every now and then to maintain a good connection with free running threads.

Hey BR. I've read some of the posts on you setups. I like that you know where to adjust - on that Scott was closer to your expertise than I. lol... I haven't done it, but people do rewire and rewick the eGo-c atty but under magnifiers The airway is up top like yours and it is rather nice - nice draw, no gurgle... there is well with a small hole right in the center under the opening of the mouthpiece but then goes to the outside 'underneath' the well to two openings. Where the mouthpiece fits into the well there are O-rings (on the mouthpiece itself) to stop the ejuice. On a few occasions I've gotten a drop in the mouth but never hot like some top coils or the CE's.

There are hydraulic and/or pneumatic systems going on and too hard a draw will eventually grab the ejuice as well as the air/vapor - there's really no way to totally separate them but this system puts the break on that phenomena to a great extent. The older eGo-c simply didn't have the right size silicone rings and seals as this one and most of the Kanger BCC's. Vision is another story

This ends up being a 'BCC' but not like regular Kangers since the wicking is in the spike as in the older eGo-c (and eGo-t) attys. And from the diagram on the link to joyetech you can see how that spike is more protected from conduction, first by the 'base cap' where the coil unit sits then the cover on top that really protects, imo ....

..no good pictures of it inside the tank but a silicone gasket that nearly covers all of the spike sits inside the tank above the coil unit:

So the eliquid doesn't have the surface contact with the spike like it was with the ego-t and eGo-c, which, imo, caused burnt ejuice, depending on the type of ejuice and the wattage. LR attys were useless, and wouldn't recommend using one on this one either... but it doesn't seem to need them.

Probably not worth the expense but I put it down as an educational investment.

 

[Katya]

When I said expensive, I meant not just the clearomizer but the replacement coil heads. I bought my coils early from Ovale and I paid 50 bucks for two 5-packs. Out of those ten coil heads, 3 were no good and I had to throw them out. So I gave up on them.

BTW, I finally bought a couple of T3S new bases for my T3s, as the old ones are on their last legs. I'll try to retrofit the baby T3 you sent me with the new bases and eVod coils, per your suggestion. Wish me luck--I really love my baby T3 clearos. The Tabac BCC is my second favorite. I agree with you on the mini ProTank--something is not right with mine too. I don't know what it is--they vape OK, but no love. The big ProTanks work great on my mods, though.

Are you going to try the ProTank 3 with the dual coils? I've seen mixed reviews. But then again, everything gets mixed reviews--some of it is user error, but not all. Nothing is perfect in the vaping world--but we are making progress.

 

[Kent C]

When I said expensive, I meant not just the clearomizer but the replacement coil heads. I bought my coils early from Ovale and I paid 50 bucks for two 5-packs. Out of those ten coil heads, 3 were no good and I had to throw them out. So I gave up on them.

BTW, I finally bought a couple of T3S new bases for my T3s, as the old ones are on their last legs. I'll try to retrofit the baby T3 you sent me with the new bases and eVod coils, per your suggestion. Wish me luck--I really love my baby T3 clearos. The Tabac BCC is my second favorite. I agree with you on the mini ProTank--something is not right with mine too. I don't know what it is--they vape OK, but no love. The big ProTanks work great on my mods, though.

Are you going to try the ProTank 3 with the dual coils? I've seen mixed reviews. But then again, everything gets mixed reviews--some of it is user error, but not all. Nothing is perfect in the vaping world--but we are making progress.

The early ovales were flawed. Good design, but Joye's later products were better - the ones Scott and I got on beta from Joye.... I can get the 5 packs a bit cheaper ($3.80/each) at heaven gifts but not as low as the Kanger coils. Fasttech is cheaper but it's fasttech. lol.

The T3S base with the evod coil works for me on the Baby. T3S coils don't fit the Baby T3 but it's the only Kanger clearo where it doesn't odd....

 

[Kent C]

Now a new one! The Kanger Unitank Mini (there's a unitank as well) - main feature is a top fill but still a bcc....

Kanger Unitank Mini BCC / DP1+ - YouTube

you translate

I like the spring aspect - probably a anti-leak feature.

..and interchangeable mouthpiece - nice flatty

10 bucks at heaven gifts... $17 elsewhere... uses evod coils and I'm guessing it isn't as small as the Baby but more like the PT mini....

 

[Katya]

The early ovales were flawed. Good design, but Joye's later products were better - the ones Scott and I got on beta from Joye.... I can get the 5 packs a bit cheaper ($3.80/each) at heaven gifts but not as low as the Kanger coils. Fasttech is cheaper but it's fasttech. lol.

The T3S base with the evod coil works for me on the Baby. T3S coils don't fit the Baby T3 but it's the only Kanger clearo where it doesn't odd....

I never tried Joye's coils. I stopped at Ovale's--their 1.8Ω ones were pretty bad, I agree.

A mini Unitank??? I haven't tried the regular one yet...

They need to slow down, IMO, and concentrate on quality and compatibility of their coils ATM. Just my unsolicited opinion.

 

[Kent C]

I never tried Joye's coils. I stopped at Ovale's--their 1.8Ω ones were pretty bad, I agree.

A mini Unitank??? I haven't tried the regular one yet...

They need to slow down, IMO, and concentrate on quality and compatibility of their coils ATM. Just my unsolicited opinion.

The top fill is likely an idiot's play where they got complaints of leaking from people who didn't realize that sometimes they unscrew the coil when they fill - a common mistake not to check. Also why I like the older Tabacs vs. the T3S, etc....

And unlike the T2, they've separated the 'opening to fill' from the mouthpiece which was a disaster on the T2 until the tweak in the threading.

Still it isn't quite as obsessive as the Vision CE's 'attempt to comply' with every customers' idiocies. lol That was truly a trip and WE actually learned more than they did, imo.

 

[Katya]

Don't even go there; I had a major juice spill last night when I turned my mini Vivi Nova upside down and attempted to unscrew the bottom to refill...

You really have to pay attention which clearomizer you're using and how to handle it.

 

[dhowardpeters]

Since y'all are the best and this is the only thread I read everyday, can anyone confirm that protank/evod replacement heads will work on these GS-H2 1.5ml BCC Clearomizers I got with an ego starter kit at a local b&m? Here's a link:
http://http://www.ecigaretteb2c.com/gs-h2-clearomizer-for-ego-series-e-cigarettes.html

oh, here's a better one with reviews (but still no link or info on replacement heads!):
GS-H2 Bottom Coil Clearomizer | Zooks Vapor Shop

One site said they worked but I can't find it now and I'm going cross-eyed I've been sucked into the rabbit hole again

 

[Kent C]

Since y'all are the best and this is the only thread I read everyday, can anyone confirm that protank/evod replacement heads will work on these GS-H2 1.5ml BCC Clearomizers I got with an ego starter kit at a local b&m? Here's a link:
http://http://www.ecigaretteb2c.com/gs-h2-clearomizer-for-ego-series-e-cigarettes.html

oh, here's a better one with reviews (but still no link or info on replacement heads!):
GS-H2 Bottom Coil Clearomizer | Zooks Vapor Shop

One site said they worked but I can't find it now and I'm going cross-eyed I've been sucked into the rabbit hole again

Haven't tried personally but there are third party coils units that are made to fit both. That doesn't mean that the true Kanger will fit the H2 or visa versa.....

Universal Bottom Coil Heads for Evod, Protank 2, GS H2 atomizer [bottom-coil-head-evod-protank-h2] - $1.50 : Electronic cigarette, Shopping online

MT3/eVod/Protank/H2 Coil head (5-pack)

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/goodejuice/446901-gs-h2-bcc-stock.html#post10447462

 

[Kent C]

double post

 

[Katya]

Since y'all are the best and this is the only thread I read everyday, can anyone confirm that protank/evod replacement heads will work on these GS-H2 1.5ml BCC Clearomizers I got with an ego starter kit at a local b&m? Here's a link:
http://http://www.ecigaretteb2c.com/gs-h2-clearomizer-for-ego-series-e-cigarettes.html

oh, here's a better one with reviews (but still no link or info on replacement heads!):
GS-H2 Bottom Coil Clearomizer | Zooks Vapor Shop

One site said they worked but I can't find it now and I'm going cross-eyed I've been sucked into the rabbit hole again

Hello Katherine, my name is Aileen, how may I help you?

[your question here]

no, they are not the same

Aileen, their online representative, says no.

 

[Katya]

Haven't tried personally but there are third party coils units that are made to fit both. That doesn't mean that the true Kanger will fit the H2 or visa versa.....

Universal Bottom Coil Heads for Evod, Protank 2, GS H2 atomizer [bottom-coil-head-evod-protank-h2] - $1.50 : Electronic cigarette, Shopping online

MT3/eVod/Protank/H2 Coil head (5-pack)

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/goodejuice/446901-gs-h2-bcc-stock.html#post10447462

The plot thickens... Universal coil heads? Interesting.

Well, as long as "The feeling same as suck really smoke..."

 

[Katya]

Since y'all are the best and this is the only thread I read everyday,

Really? How sweet of you to say that.

Welcome aboard!

 

[dhowardpeters]

Thank you, Katya and Kent! I was hoping to find a us based source - Kent, your last link looks like one, maybe - that supplier's link doesn't want to load atm. Honestly, I've had these things 2 weeks and I just tonight figured out exactly what they are. I wish things were labeled better in the vaping world

I loved this thread in 2010 - not sure whether I ever posted here - and I'm back to vaping now after a 2+ yr. hiatus. So, it's been the learning curve all over again. I have pretty much re-read/read this whole thread. It is the best. Seriously. I've laughed. I've cried. I'm worried about BR and Al's Dad. I'm commiserating with you, Katya, as I sent my 1st daughter off this year - I'm much better now and hope you are, too. I thank you all.

Now that I know what I have, where to get heads online, and how to rebuild it (thanks Tomcatt), I think I'll just get some aspire bdcc's (loved Andrew's video) As a dripper who hated cartos in 2010, these gs-h2's were a revelation 2 weeks ago. They were so consistent drag to drag. I couldn't believe it. But now, the fiddling has begun. I've removed the extra wicks, added them back clean, removed half of them, dry-burned. The flavor is not as good as it was, even with the heads replaced...or maybe I'm just down the rabbit hole

 

[Katya]

Well, welcome back to the forum! I remember you well from back when. Didn't realize you were gone for so long...

Rabbit hole is right!

If you're a dripper in heart, you may like the Aspire BDC--the closest flavor to dripping--in my limited experience with them. Just get one and play with it. Who knows?

Good luck and say hello to your daughter! Is she coming home for Thanksgiving? Or do you have to wait another month to see her?

 

[dhowardpeters]

Well, welcome back to the forum! I remember you well from back when. Didn't realize you were gone for so long...

Rabbit hole is right!

If you're a dripper in heart, you may like the Aspire BDC--the closest flavor to dripping--in my limited experience with them. Just get one and play with it. Who knows?

Good luck and say hello to your daughter! Is she coming home for Thanksgiving? Or do you have to wait another month to see her?

Thank you, Katya. I so remember you, and so many others who are still active. I'm gonna try the Aspire, but I don't think I could rebuild it. I wonder if it could be rebuilt leaving out the top coil (and that wrap)?

She's coming home Tuesday Is your girl coming home? Luckily, mine is only 2.5 hours away AND there's an Amtrak between us - very convenient! I must say, I was not expecting how overwhelming it was when we left her there, like the earth shifted on its' axis or something. Took me a while to get my bearings. Hope it doesn't cause you sadness, but I'm sharing an article that I thought nailed it and therefore comforted me (2-step link for some reason?):

Beverly Beckham: I was the sun, the kids were my planets - The Boston Globe

 

[br5495]

Howdy cowboy!

So are you back to making your cartomizers yet? Or are you still too weak?

Sorry I didn't get back with you sooner, but my internal hard drive connections were causing a problem and I had to wait on my son to get here today to straighten the mess out. I taught him computer stuff several years ago and he's having to fix things now that I can't see well enough to do it.

I tried to do some lathe work yesterday when I felt like it and ruined the piece last night. I was dumb enough to begin trying again early this morning and can't say yet how it will turn out. I don't know if I should call that 'making cartomizers' or not, heheh.

 

[br5495]

Hey BR. I've read some of the posts on you setups. I like that you know where to adjust - on that Scott was closer to your expertise than I. lol... I haven't done it, but people do rewire and rewick the eGo-c atty but under magnifiers The airway is up top like yours and it is rather nice - nice draw, no gurgle... there is well with a small hole right in the center under the opening of the mouthpiece but then goes to the outside 'underneath' the well to two openings. Where the mouthpiece fits into the well there are O-rings (on the mouthpiece itself) to stop the ejuice. On a few occasions I've gotten a drop in the mouth but never hot like some top coils or the CE's.

From what I can make out of the construction, this cartomizer appears to have enough passages for condensation to form. I'm thinking this may be what's getting in your mouth. If the taste is less bitter than e-juice, then it's probably condensation.