Burnt taste

[besidog]

Hi guys, i was wondering if you could answer me a question

i got my eGo today from CB-in-Tokyo and im pretty impressed so far! I had been using a "joye 510" before this and this battery lasts me a lot longer.

In a few weeks I have gone from 1 pack per day down to 2 or 3 cigs a day.

My problem:

The 2 new atomizers that came with the ego both have a metallic , burnt taste when they get warm/hot.. Its not primer because theyve been blown out .. its not dry because i've fully filled the cart so its glossy on top and put 2 drops down the atty (on the verge of the bubble flood noise but its not flooded) so its definately wet

but still this horrible burnt taste..

i've read to pull these string I can see in the atty from the sides of the metal coil.. dont want to break an atty on the first day though! any thoughts?

 

[emus]

i get burnt taste only when atty coil is partially dry.
i direct drip to assure atty is always wet.
if liquid does not go to coil (rare), I remove atty and blow on cart till liquid seeps out batt end of atty. i clean excess liquid with cotton swab then resume vaping.

 

[DC2]

Hopefully this post will help...

I suggest that you post in V4L's forum and address this question specifically to Leaford. As a high-volume supplier who sources his product direct from the factory to his own specifications he would be in a position to know.

We assume that it is unflavored zero-nic PG, as that would comply with the requirements:

1. Must coat and protect metal parts from oxidation, even in long-term storage.
2. Must not contain water as this might contribute to corrosion.
3. Should inhibit bacterial growth.
4. Must not be hazardous to inhale.
5. Should not contain nicotine or flavorings that the end user may not want to consume.

Note that the statement "It tastes bad", on first use, is not strictly true: the primer liquid has no taste - but there are various materials being vaporized on first use of an atomizer that do not taste very good, as it is cleaning out manufacturing residues. Such things might include coatings on the silica fibres within the heater coil or wick, residues on the metal of the coil, adhesive residues within the heating chamber, coatings on the steel sleeve, machine cutting oil and so on.

After the first few seconds these have gone, but it's a good idea to just puff out the first 6 or 10 puffs, just to be on the safe side. It's unlikely that such small amounts of anything could be toxic, but if something doesn't taste good then there is no reason to consume it.

Actually the issue is whether there are any toxic residues left over from manufacturing within the atomizer, not if the primer fluid is toxic, as a manufacturer would be unlikely to use anything other than a safe liquid. As such residues will be cleaned out within 30 seconds or so, it doesn't seem a big issue.

 

[emus]

adhesive residuals...machine cutting oil...yuk.

i hope the manufacturer cleans or bakes volatiles off atty before selling.

say it ain't so.

 

[besidog]

I'd like to think it was just primer.. but I've been vaping on and off all evening, still the burnt taste hidden behind my flavour. Its vapeable, but annoying non the less..

 

[emus]

maybe you can prime your atty with vodka or everclear and try again.
maybe your juice is to thick to flow into coil properly.

 

[Xanax]

Don't pull the wick out (the little "strings" you were talking about) since the atty is brand new, there could be dust or other particles on or around the coil that you need to vape through. I would just puff and not inhale on it for a couple days and it should go away. By the way, all "primer" is, is Unflavored Proplyene glycol, so it shouldn't have a nasty taste. Give it time and it should go away.

Also, as long as you're using carts, you'll experience some funny tastes now and then. Polyfil melts when in contact with high heat. The best way to eliminate funny tastes and unenjoyable flavors that you actually like is to just start dripping. It's WAY more hassle free and cheaper. Give it a try. You don't have a drip tip I assume, so try this: take the polyfil out of the cart and trim the very bottom part of the empty cart about - that much. This will keep the plastic away from the heat so it won't melt. You now have a mouth piece!

 

[evilcute]

I'm on day 3 of vaping and I'm having the exact same problem.
The first 2 days were bliss, but now it's as if my atomizers are burnt to a crisp.
I can't figure out what I did wrong, but the taste/stank is ungodly

 

[DC2]

Polyfil melts when in contact with high heat.

My understanding is that there is nowhere near enough heat at the end of the atomizer bridge to melt or burn the polyfill.
At least under normal circumstances and with regular atomizers as opposed to LR atomizers.

Do you have some information you could point me to that shows otherwise?

Although this did bring up something I didn't think of at first because I drip.
And also, because I don't see it happening much anymore, or at least discussed much anymore.

If a loose strand of polyfill does break free and get down into the atomizer coil area, yes it can burn and taste bad.
That would be considered NOT normal circumstances.


But yeah, it can most definitely happen.

So maybe take a look down inside the atomizer and look for any thin little strands of polyfill that might be down there somewhere.
And please make note that I am not talking about the wicking strands underneath the bridge.

You are looking for any really thin, fine strands, not big wicking threads.
And if you find any, remove them with tweezers.

 

[DC2]

adhesive residuals...machine cutting oil...yuk.

i hope the manufacturer cleans or bakes volatiles off atty before selling.

say it ain't so.

I can't say it ain't so because I didn't say it was so.
But rolygate did, and he probably knows what he's talking about.

 

[besidog]

I think my juice was too thick, not enough dilutant in this VG mix! I just did 50% dilantant to test it and it vapes much better

 

[Xanax]

My understanding is that there is nowhere near enough heat at the end of the atomizer bridge to melt or burn the polyfill.
At least under normal circumstances and with regular atomizers as opposed to LR atomizers.

Do you have some information you could point me to that shows otherwise?

Although this did bring up something I didn't think of at first because I drip.
And also, because I don't see it happening much anymore, or at least discussed much anymore.

If a loose strand of polyfill does break free and get down into the atomizer coil area, yes it can burn and taste bad.
That would be considered NOT normal circumstances.


But yeah, it can most definitely happen.

So maybe take a look down inside the atomizer and look for any thin little strands of polyfill that might be down there somewhere.
And please make note that I am not talking about the wicking strands underneath the bridge.

You are looking for any really thin, fine strands, not big wicking threads.
And if you find any, remove them with tweezers.

Yep. Every single one of my carts have always melted. Polyfil AND the plastic ends. That's why I started dripping. There's your proof right there. It happened on regular 510 atomizers. My findings were that the polyfil and cart were always coming in "too much" contact with the bridge. I understand that's necessary for proper wicking but it caused melting and awful tastes for me and others. Look around DC2. I remember quite a few threads from my newbie stages- some that I participated in where I, among others were complaining about this problem exactly.

 

[sl_rat]

drip...drip...drip... lose the fill altogether