BURNT TONGUE - Stats, Info, Answers

[RooRooBears]

*If ECF mods deem this inapporpriate, then by all means take it down. If it seems helpful, then let's figure this out together.*


Hello ECF commuity! I've been searching around and have found all sorts of explanations for BURNT TONGUE (NOT vaper's tongue, which is easily remedied), but no clear cut answers. There're lots of theories and concepts, and a lot of them make sense, but I've never really seen anything with evidence/research/statistics.

A little about myself - I'm been here and there in the ECF community, been vaping for almost 8-10 years now and a hardcore believer in vaping as a (safer) alternative from smoking. I am a M.D. and believe in evidence based medicine. That's it. I don't want any stalkers, please.


WHAT IS THIS THREAD ABOUT
Finding a clear explanation to what causes and/or aggravates burnt tongue.


WHAT IS BURNT TONGUE?
Burnt tongue is NOT whole tongue inflammation (e.g., Geographic Tongue, autoimmune disorders, etc). Burnt tongue is NOT vaper's tongue (inability to taste flavors temporarily, easily remedied - drink lots of water, change flavors, mouth wash).

Let's be clear to who this is for - For our sake, let's define Burnt tongue as only a small portion of the tongue that is in pain, which may or may not have sores/inflamed papillae/ulcers that tends to be aggravated by vaping. Increase in vaping will have a direct correlation with the pain in your tongue. It comes and goes every once in a while that is noticeably related to vaping.


HOW CAN I HELP?
Include this info in your post:
1. %PG / %VG
2. Nicotine dosage
3. Atomizer Resistance
4. Voltage setting
5. Flavor
6. # Extra flavor shots added (0 if nothing additional was requested)
7. Organic or Non-organic eLiquid (majority out there is non-organic)
8. mL of eLiquid vaped per day (approximate)
9. Pain level (1-10). 1 - Barely wince at the pain. 10 - Fetal position, crying pain.
10. What % of your tongue is in pain? (approximate)
11. In a few words, describe the pain. Sharp? Dull? Localized? Radiates? Dry?
12. During the course of the day, when is it worst? Morning/Afternoon/Night


PLEASE, DO NOT INCLUDE (go ahead and start another thread if you wish)
1. Your thoughts about causes of burnt tongue (e.g., PG vs VG, high nicotine content, flavoring)
2. Any identifying information. Keep everything in your post anonymous, we wouldn't want to hurt any specific vendors out there. Sure, names of flavors may give it away, but let's please be civil and keep out company names.
3. Arguing, barraging, opinions, etc etc... this ECF community is very bright and very opinionated. Very. But if we can keep the posts to the 12 items I am requesting for, it'll be much easier to compile info and help us towards the right direction.
4. Any remedies that you tried or know of and may or may not work. That's not what this thread is about.


I'm sure a lot of you are thinking this is a flawed little experiment, very bias, and not done under the right circumstances. Some of you might actually see what I'm trying to do here. Specially if you've experienced burnt tongue related to vaping. Personally, I don't care but it's great to be a part of a very intelligent and questioning community. Yes, it's very subjective, but we have to work with what we have. I simply want to help the vaping community (and myself) figure out how to minimize, perhaps eliminate, burnt tongue from vaping to make the vaping experience much more enjoyable.

Cheers & Vape on!

 

[Bramble]

[...] been vaping for almost 8-10 years now

[...]

Not doubting you but... dang that's a long time LOL... they were only introduced in the US 8 years ago weren't they?

 

[RooRooBears]

Lol. That's why I said 8-10. Not exactly sure. Just feels long, that's all.

 

[Bramble]

Lol. That's why I said 8-10. Not exactly sure. Just feels long, that's all.

2 months feels like a long time. I don't remember what it's like to enjoy a cigarette, find them completely repulsive now.

Ok carry on. Sorry don't have any information about burnt tongue to share... or well, I'm not sorry I have not experienced that.

 

[RooRooBears]

1. 50/50
2. 18 mg
3. 1.8 Ohms
4. 3.4 V
5. Green Apple
6. 1 extra flavor shot
7. Non-organic
8. 3 mL per day
9. 3 pain level. Low, but quite annoying.
10. 5%
11. Sharp, dry at times, localized
12. Mostly afternoon-night

 

[MisKate]

So I'm not the only one who experiences this! My tongue often feels as if it's been mildly burnt, like after taking a bite of too hot pizza. Not real painful, but annoying because it disrupts the pleasure of vaping.
I use non organic, tobacco flavored, menthol juice (easy on the menthol). 18 mg nic. Atty resistance averages 2.2. Power at 7 watts mostly. I'd say about 50% of the tongue surface feels burned. Vape probably 3-4 mls of liquid every day, on average. And this usually bothers me more later in the day.
Hope this helps!

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[RooRooBears]

So I'm not the only one who experiences this! My tongue often feels as if it's been mildly burnt, like after taking a bite of too hot pizza. Not real painful, but annoying because it disrupts the pleasure of vaping.
I use non organic, tobacco flavored, menthol juice (easy on the menthol). 18 mg nic. Atty resistance averages 2.2. Power at 7 watts mostly. I'd say about 50% of the tongue surface feels burned. Vape probably 3-4 mls of liquid every day, on average. And this usually bothers me more later in the day.
Hope this helps!

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Certainly helps! Would help more if more people gave their input as well I do like how you put 3-4 ml liquid instead of how long you vape. So good of an idea I'll edit my initial post. Thanks!

 

[macaroni]

Include this info in your post:
1. %PG / %VG
Normally 50/50
2. Nicotine dosage
12mg
3. Atomizer Resistance
either 2.0 or 1.8
4. Voltage setting
between 7.5 and 10 watts depending on flavor
5. Flavor
every flavor I've tried so far
6. # Extra flavor shots added (0 if nothing additional was requested)
0
7. Organic or Non-organic eLiquid (majority out there is non-organic)
non-organic
8. mL of eLiquid vaped per day (approximate)
less than a tank per day .... maybe 2 to 3 ml?????
9. Pain level (1-10). 1 - Barely wince at the pain. 10 - Fetal position, crying pain.
2
10. What % of your tongue is in pain? (approximate)
all of the top of my tongue ... sometimes even portions of the insides of my cheeks and roof of my mouth.
11. In a few words, describe the pain. Sharp? Dull? Localized? Radiates? Dry?
a sharp tingle, almost like the "pins and needles" feeling when your arm or leg falls asleep, but more sharp. Like that first hurried gulp of too hot coffee first thing in the morning.
12. During the course of the day, when is it worst? Morning/Afternoon/Night
It pretty much happens equally at any time, however the affect is additive, if a time goes by between vapes, the sensation is just noticeable, if I vape a number of times in rapid succession, the sensation becomes quite uncomfortable.

 

[RooRooBears]

Bump

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