Button Top 18650 Battery Used in iPV Mini 2
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I don't know if that mod can take button top batteries, however there is another issue you need to be aware of.
The NCR18650B protected battery has a maximum discharge rate of 6.8 amps and the protection should kick in before it reaches that. I Googled the iPV Mini 2 and found it does 70 watts max which will pull 25.93 amps from the battery at 3 volts. That's not going to work very well because the protection is going to kick in and stop the battery from destroying itself, which could be a painful event.
You need batteries that can handle the amp draw and the only ones that I know of that are rated for 26 amps are the Sony VTC series at 30 amps. You can get flat top VTC4's for $8 each at Illumn and I'm pretty sure the mod will handle flat tops. Illumination Supply is a known good supplier who does not sell counterfeits.
Hope that helps and enjoy the new mod
Out of curiosity I just tried a AW18650 button top in my iPV mini 2 ( I don't own any Panasonic NCR18650B) and it did fit in and work but tightening up felt a little forced compared with the flat tops. The height difference is the button which protrudes by 1 mm or so. I'd say use flat top cells when possible, feels like a better marriage
thanks for the infos guys. reading more into batteries, it seems like I shouldn't go with Li-On batteries and go with IMR or Hybrid batteries, but the mAh isn't anywhere near the 3400 the panasonic has. It's really confusing on choosing the right battery.I'm at ~.7-~1.3 ohm for my vaping sweet spot. So I don't really know where to go from here. Do any of you guys have any recommendations?
Edit - so these Panasonic High Drain 18650 2900mAh NCR18650PF Hybrid Li-ion batteries seem like a good choice since they're both high drain and hybrids. Would this be a good choice for the iPV Mini 2? not quite 3400 mAh but they're hybrids, notprotected, and come in flat top aswell.
Edit - so these Panasonic High Drain 18650 2900mAh NCR18650PF Hybrid Li-ion batteries seem like a good choice since they're both high drain and hybrids. Would this be a good choice for the iPV Mini 2? not quite 3400 mAh but they're hybrids, notprotected, and come in flat top aswell.
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A word of advice from experience, a higher mAh does not inherently mean that the battery is going to last longer during usage, especially depending on the amperage rating of the battery. The mAh rating takes into account something you will never do with the battery in your device which is drain it entirely to empty before charging. What you're looking for is a battery that is going to spend as much time as possible above a set voltage(you want to keep the battery above approx 3.4v before you charge it) and perform as good as possible with the least amount of voltage sag under load, the higher the amperage rating the more headroom you have and the less strain is put on the battery, the less strain you put on a battery over time the longer it will last in both usable life and in charge cycles.
The first thing you need to have in these batteries is enough amp draw capability to handle the current the mod will draw from them. If you draw more current than they can safely handle, they will heat up. Get them hot enough and they will vent, which can be dangerous. Hybrid batteries should not easily explode, but every once in a while one does so it can happen.
When you set watts on the mod, it doesn't matter what resistance you're running. 50 watts will draw the same current from the battery with at 0.5 ohms as at 2 ohms. If you set volts on the mod, it will draw more amps from the batt with lower rersistance, but the mod ios limited to 70 watts max and will not go higher than that.
As I said in my first post, at 70 watts and low battery voltage (not mod voltage, the battery itself) it will be pulling 26 amps from the battery. Here's a list of some common high drain batteries with their max continuous amp ratings. The NCR18650PF can safely deliver 10 amps, which is nowhere near 26A, so that's no good.
If you never go over 50 watts, I suggest you can get away with some of the good 20A batteries on the market like the Samsung 25R or the LG HE2. Both of these are 2500 mAh and are hybrids. If however you do go higher than 50 watts you will be running a bit higher than the battery amp rating.
You can get Sony VTC4 from Illumination Supply for $8 a piece and they are rated for 30A continuous. They are 2100 mAh, but they also have very low internal resistance which will help them last longer than the mAh rating suggests. Get these batteries and you'll never have to worry about amp drain no matter what power you vape at with this device.
You have chosen a single battery mod which draws about 26A at 70 watts. Batteries that can handle this amp draw do not have high mAh capability. There are high power regulated mods that use two batteries in parallel which splits the current demand between the batts, but they are of course bigger.
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Ryedan "You have chosen a single battery mod which draws about 26A at 70 watts. Batteries that can handle this amp draw do not have high mAh capability. There are high power regulated mods that use two batteries in parallel which splits the current demand between the batts, but they are of course bigger."
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Bearing in mind what you have, iPV mini 70 watt which runs off a single 18650 cell, sacrifice your search for higher mAH rated batteries in favor of better amp draw safety. I use 2 vtc 4's I bought NEW exclusively for this same mod! I always have another cell fully charged and ready to drop in there, it isn't much of a hassle and I know I can trust the Sony's from past experience with mechs, so take the 30 amp 'headroom to spare' option.
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Bearing in mind what you have, iPV mini 70 watt which runs off a single 18650 cell, sacrifice your search for higher mAH rated batteries in favor of better amp draw safety. I use 2 vtc 4's I bought NEW exclusively for this same mod! I always have another cell fully charged and ready to drop in there, it isn't much of a hassle and I know I can trust the Sony's from past experience with mechs, so take the 30 amp 'headroom to spare' option.
I'm using the Samsung 25R in mine, and it lasts me all day using an Atlantis and a nautilus mini. So, no you do not need the Uber high mAh batteries to get all day vaping on this device.
As stated previously by Ryeden, the 3400 mah Panasonic 18650B is only 6.8 amps continuous. Most of those 3400 mah are not in the range that we use for personal vaporizors. These batteries were designed and more suited for low amp devices like flashlights.
Even the 2800 mah Panasonic 18650 PF only has 10 amps continuous discharge rate. Again, not quite enough amps for high wattage personal vaporizors. Most of these require at least 12 amps continuous.
As you are beginning to realize, there's more to choosing a battery than the mAh rating. For personal vaporizors, amps are more important.
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