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bobflanders86

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I definitely want more that 11VW I think no more than 50, I want it to use the 18650 battery, I want the Big Dripper to fit and perform well, I'm skeptical on china made mods. Whats the best mod under those circumstances, while keeping the price down as much as possible? Not very thrilled with reviews on sigelei or IPV2 box mods any more options?
 
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I've used a good number of drippers and right now I'm using the CLT by Infinite and love it. They make clones and the CLT is a combination of three popular clones. I'm using the IPV2 now for a month and haven't had any issues. Don't be afraid of Clones, they're much less expensive and typically work great. I have a TOBH clone as well I use fairly regularly along with a real Magma. The CLT and TOBH clone both perform better than the real Magma in my opinion.

I definitely want more that 11VW I think no more than 50, I want it to use the 18650 battery, I want the Big Dripper to fit and perform well, I'm skeptical on china made mods. Whats the best mod under those circumstances, while keeping the price down as much as possible? Not very thrilled with reviews on sigelei or IPV2 box mods any more options?
 

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Is there a good website where I can mass compare a bunch of mods all at once?

fasttech.

whether you buy from them or not, their site is exceedingly usefull for comparing items, seeing the specs, and even seeing reviews.
and you can't just post a review of an item you did not buy from them, so the reviews are not spammy from people just trying to sell stuff
 

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Hi everybody, I've come to the conclusion the MVP 2 is right for me, for now. When I get my next check I'm heading to Vaporescence, which is a vape shop near me that I've never been to. Based on their site they carry MVP 2's and a Nautilus. I want to try the mini but they don't have that so non mini is close enough one day I'll probably get both. In the future after that I want to try the big dripper. Thank you to everyone on ECF who got me this far in my plans. Now for some more questions.

Has anyone tried the Big Dripper? IMO that thing is expensive, but awesome.

Can the MVP 2 handle an RBA without taxing it to much? If it blows up it might take out a 2 mile radius.
I believe as long as I'm not sub ohming it would be fine.

What's a good step up after the MVP I'm looking for a wider range of variable wattage than 6-11?
Around 100 bucks is a lot of money to me so as close to that if possible. Also the ability to do RBA's no problem

What mod has the biggest/longest battery?

Does anyone have experience with Vaporescence?

Is it true girls like a man that can make a huge vape cloud?

1: Can the mvp2 handle an RBA without taxing it too much?
Sure the mvp and handle an rba.
It's not for subohming or high power vaping, but you build your rba with 30 gauge coils and it'll work fine.

2: What's a good step up after the mvp?
Once you have a month or 3 experience you'll get a better feel for what you will want afterwards.
The mvp will keep you happy for a long time while to spend more time on what you want to put on top of it, because, there's a whole lot more options to consider on top which is the real story.
You will likely end up with more than twice as much toppers than batteries/mods.

3: Which mod has the biggest/longest battery?
The step up in battery capacity from 18650 is the 26650 battery mods.

$54.20 7-35W Variable Wattage 26650 APV Mod - stainless steel at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
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I dunno man I don't understand clones, doesn't it take lots of money to build a prototype of something then mass produce it, how can a copy of something be made so much cheaper. How could it be better, and how could it be legal.

Let's work backwards here.

It's legal because most (if not all) modders have no official copyright over their designs. Part of this is the fact that e-cigarettes are such a grey zone at the moment. On top of which, the clones are made in China, where lots of production and industrial rules get bent for profit.

It can be better because a lot of the clone companies get a chance to see how the original project does upon release - and most importantly it's weak points. For instance, take the Akuma mechanical mod. When it was released the button was reported as being crunchy and bad. So the cloners knew they could fix this, and nothing says "GET A CLONE!!" like reviewers saying "man the clone has a better button than the original..."

The prototyping is the only thing I don't have any real knowledge on, but if it was me I'd just buy the original, have an engineer take it apart, and tell the factory how to start mass making them. Since they didn't spend months or years on R & D they don't have to boost the price to cover the time they spent. They can sell it for super cheap as a result. Most of the materials used in these things aren't particularly expensive, and neither is the creation process. Most of these tools are used for tonnes of other applications anyway, such as flashlights, water bottles, instruments, and just about any component used in anything that has cylinders or threading.

Also again, assuming the clones come from China, they have a lot of metal deposits (from my memory of geography) so the materials don't need to be imported and cost even less. Besides, it's an untapped market. They basically have a choke hold on it since the authentic companies are only now starting to make affordable things.

TL;DR: it's doable and it's not very hard.
 

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Both the MPV and the Sigelei are authentic also on fasttech.
In general clones of ecigs or tanks/drippers are fine.

They are such simple devices. Always makes me laugh if people come up with years of R&D and trail and error. There are basically 6 or 7 tank concepts and hundreds of products are designed around these few basic concepts.

If you have multiple options of the same tank or mod, generally the stainless steel variety of a mod or tank will be the most durable choice.
 

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does anyone really want/need 100vw?

I would :) I run my mechs at 88 watts right now, and I would go hotter but it eats through batteries too fast and I don't wanna carry 10 batteries all day with me haha. The beauty of those VV/VW devices tho is that it targets every audience. All the people who love hot vapes, but also works just fine for those who don't. It's for everyone, really. Now if only they had 3 parallel 18650s for better battery life and a low profile...nah I'll stick with my shiny metal tubes.
 

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When you have a nautilus mini connected to a 150vw device, what is the max watts you will be going to? Explain is that because you will start burning parts up like coils, or maybe because the vapors would be too hot to comfortably be inhaled.

You'd vape at maybe 10 watts. max? maybe 20.

If you crank it up to 100 watts you'd fry the coil; those tiny coils won't take 100 watts.
 

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Ok so I have a nautilus mini and an MVP, but I also have another VW device which can fire up to 120w+ (I think max you'd get is 200, but you'd probably fry the chip by that point).

On the MVP, I always keep the voltage maxed out with the nautilus. Anything less and it's not quite as hot as I'd like it. At this voltage, I've NEVER gotten a burnt hit, even when I rip it for 10 full seconds. That said, on my other box, if I go even SLIGHTLY above 4v, I get burnt hits. Very burnt hits. So either this means my box is firing at a lot higher voltage than it says, or my MVP isn't firing as high as it says (I tend to lean towards the latter).

Either way, to answer your question, the MVP2 will provide the PERFECT amount of wattage/voltage for the nautilus/nautilus mini. Any higher than MVP2 voltage and you'll likely just burn your coils (which I have done).

A Nautilus mini will be fine under 11 watts. I have a KFL on my MVP and seldom even have it turned up all the way. A KFL can handle much more power than a Nautilus mini.

What are the ohms of your KFL vs. your Nautilus? The Nautilus coils seem to come as either 1.6 or 1.8 ohms (I think they make 2.4 also, but that's a bit high for me). If your KFL coils are less than that of your Nautilus, then yeah, obviously you can't crank the wattage/voltage as high.
 

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Get the clone before you get the authentic. FT has one for cheap, as has been mentioned. If you dig it then get the authentic.

The MVP2 Is regulated. It won't fire on anything it doesn't agree with, which if recall correctly is 0.8 ohms and up. So yes, it can. I used an IGO-L on it for a long time, pretty decent. With a 1 ohm coil you can get 25 watts in VV mode, which is pretty decent.

The sigelei or IPV2 box mods sound perfect for that. 75-100 $ and VW up to 50. They both take 18650s so throw a Vtc5 and you can vape half the day away, then switch in another battery when it dies.

No experience.

Depends on the woman, my girlfriend hates it haha.

ill agree with the ipv2 its a beast. even though ill always favor a mech
 
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