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[Some1OnThisForum]

ASPARTAME is literally the fecal matter of genetically engineered bacteria such as Ecoli - bacteria are fed toxic substances which make them defecate aspartame.
Combining two amino acids L-phenylalanine and L-aspartic acid, with a third component called a methyl ester produces aspartame. How it gets made from bacteria is beyond my knowledge and expertise, but what i do know is that bacteria is genetically modified. Maybe its modifed so its feces becomes aspartame? Its pretty freaky what can be accomplished from genetic modification. I once saw a Doc
about it. Apparently genes were spliced with a plant and a fire fly, and yes...the results were a glowing plant. lol

Making a really long story short.

The use of aspartame in our products was declined 17 years in a row by the FDA until finally in 1981 it was approved. The reason for its previous disapprovals was the over abundance of evidence and tests in labs that show how deadly it actually is.

Here are the side effects of aspartame.

blindness in one or both eyes
decreased vision and/or other eye problems such as: blurring, bright flashes, squiggly lines, tunnel vision, decreased night vision
pain in one or both eyes
decreased tears
trouble with contact lenses
bulging eyes

Ear
tinnitus - ringing or buzzing sound
severe intolerance of noise
marked hearing impairment

Neurologic
epileptic seizures
headaches, migraines and (some severe)
dizziness, unsteadiness, both
confusion, memory loss, both
severe drowsiness and sleepiness
paresthesia or numbness of the limbs
severe slurring of speech
severe hyperactivity and restless legs
atypical facial pain
severe tremors
Psychological/Psychiatric
severe depression
irritability
aggression
anxiety
personality changes
insomnia
phobias
Chest
palpitations, tachycardia
shortness of breath
recent high blood pressure
Gastrointestinal
nausea
........, sometimes with blood in stools
abdominal pain
pain when swallowing
Skin and Allergies
itching without a rash
lip and mouth reactions
hives
aggravated respiratory allergies such as asthma

Endocrine and Metabolic
loss of control of diabetes
menstrual changes
marked thinning or loss of hair
marked weight loss
gradual weight gain
aggravated low blood sugar (hypoglycemia)
severe PMS
Other
frequency of voiding and burning during urination
excessive thirst, fluid retention, leg swelling, and bloating
increased susceptibility to infection
Additional Symptoms of Aspartame Toxicity include the most critical symptoms of all
death
irreversible brain damage
birth defects, including mental ......ation
peptic ulcers
aspartame addiction and increased craving for sweets
hyperactivity in children
severe depression
aggressive behavior
suicidal tendencies

Aspartame may trigger, mimic, or cause the following illnesses:
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Epstein-Barr
Post-Polio Syndrome
Lyme Disease
Grave’s Disease
Meniere’s Disease
Alzheimer’s Disease
ALS
Epilepsy
Multiple Sclerosis (MS)
EMS
Hypothyroidism
Mercury sensitivity from Amalgam fillings
Fibromyalgia
Lupus
non-Hodgkins
Lymphoma
Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD)





Numerous physicians' petitions as well as many private petitions have been filed with FDA since 1981 asking for the rescinding of aspartame's approval. Why it is was still allowed after this is beyond my knowledge lol.


Other than all this, I noticed some people get headaches from certain sweeteners. I do to. I can no longer vape anything sweet unless its organic. Do i wish Splenx was ok for you? yes of course. but its not lol. I used to be addicted to diet coke for about 6 months give or take. During these times i kept getting cluster headaches weekly lasting 2 days at time. I would need Strong painkillers to ease my headaches. I stopped all artifical sweeteners.....since a week or so after that i have not gotten these cluster headaches. My boss loves diet coke, he complains about headaches all the time. I tell him but he never listens. drives me nuts how noone listens. Im not telling you this for profit. I just feel the community needs to do some more research before putting any serious opinions towards what i am saying.

 

[Shilo]

Sucralose used in vaping, and aspartame used in diet soda are not the same thing. However, I do avoid artificial sweeteners for similar reasons.

Sucralose aka Splenda is used in a whole bunch of diet and low carb and diabetic products. Many people here use it in their juice as you only need a tiny amount to sweeten the juice.

 

[Some1OnThisForum]

NutraSweet is Aspartame as well. Splenda there isnt much documented on it, but Splenda CAN adversely affect the body in several ways because it IS a chemical substance and not natural.
People don’t want to hear that it may be just as dangerous as aspartame. Splenda also contains chlorine.
ythi

either way. im not here to argue with you. I get headaches from splenda vapes. I dont remember getting headaches from anything natural. Do i get headaches from water, veggies, fruits, vitamins, seasonings, spices, plants?
no...well...maybe if i smoke too much weed. LOL. but i do not. and i doubt you do. People think just gettting a headache is ok or not enough to get them off what they like. But continued use of the products will surely mess you up over time, and then you can hear a half educated doctor tell you its from something else like bad diet and lack of excercise. or than tell you since you used to smoke that its from the cigarettes.

In reality though...sweeteners may prove to be more deadly than analogs in the future.

 

[billo]

Seems a bit of a stretch. I drank diet coke for years and never got ANY of those
so-called "side -effects." Why are you trying to scare people ?

Almost sounds like the FDA discussing E-Cigarettes.

 

[Some1OnThisForum]

Why am i trying to scare people? Because, i sat down and decided, "I want to scare people. What can i make up to scare people". Im being sarcastic.

Just because you dont get headaches doesnt mean others dont. In fact there are a few threads people complaining about bad side effects from certain sweeteners. my thread is about aspartame anyway.
If you think these chemicals are not bad for you in anyway. It is your opinion, and its my opinion that you are not entitled to your opinion.

Im ALSO 99.99% sure you have had one of the listed symptons(not saying you got it from aspartame) just saying as an example ever have diarrea? Im sure everyone here had. How do you know its not from aspartame the one time that you do get it? you have been drinking it for years you said right? surely you had a headache one time or another? Or..OR maybe you are just one of those people aspartame has not affected as much. Some people smoke analogs till they are 90. they can just be lucky never to have cancer

 

[tippyclubb]

Seems a bit of a stretch. I drank diet coke for years and never got ANY of those
so-called "side -effects." Why are you trying to scare people ?

Almost sounds like the FDA discussing E-Cigarettes.

No the OP is not trying to scare people but make us aware of ingredients in e-cigs, and I'm glad he/she did. I had no clue aspartame is used to make juice. Knowing this fact puts a whole different light on vaping and makes me wonder what other POTENTIAL harmful flavor enhancers are used that us consumers are unaware of?

I have many different juices from various vendors and some of them list ingredients but Aspartame is not listed on any of my sweet juices. I did a quick goggle search and indeed aspartame is a common substance to be used in sweet juice.

This information has definitely burst my bubble and makes me wonder what else do they put in juice. Makes me wonder about how safe vaping is. At this point no one really knows for sure. Yes, I know there are over 3,000 chemicals in analogs that harm smokers, but the most important question is, what is in our juice and what long term harm can it cause?

So far vaping has been a wonderful experience and I did stop smoking. However, I'm still addicted to nicotine and I still have that oral fixation that one has with analogs. Now that I'm aware that aspartame is used in my sweet juice I'll be weening myself down to 0mg of nicotine asap. For me vaping is only used as a stepping stone to the final goal. Addiction and chemical free.

 

[base234]

If you think these chemicals are not bad for you in anyway. It is your opinion, and its my opinion that you are not entitled to your opinion.

Actually, it's my understanding that everyone is entitled to their opinion on ECF as long as they're not rude. Are you being rude?

 

[MadHatter]

Please take off your tinfoil hat and read something other than conspiracy websites.

ASPARTAME is literally the fecal matter of genetically engineered bacteria such as Ecoli - bacteria are fed toxic substances which make them defecate aspartame.

Bacteria do not produce feces of any sort. They excrete byproducts of metabolism, some that can be toxic, but you're just being sensationalistic by saying they crap Aspartame. One of the synthesis techniques of Aspartame does use Thermolysin, which is an enzyme produced from Bacillus thermoproteolyticus. No E. coli involved, but again I suspect E.coli is only mentioned to scare people who will assume it's associated with the H4 strain.

The use of aspartame in our products was declined 17 years in a row by the FDA until finally in 1981 it was approved. The reason for its previous disapprovals was the over abundance of evidence and tests in labs that show how deadly it actually is.

Aspartame was discovered in 1965. It was approved for dry consumption in 1974. It was not declined every year for 17 years as you imply, it was submitted and there was some concern over some of the testing. However, the majority of scientists agreed the testing was thorough and were confident of it's safety. In 1983 it was approved for drinks and baked goods.

Here are the side effects of aspartame....

I can make up lists also. Until you can show peer reviewed research on acceptable daily intake studies that show any adverse affects, that list is false.

It is your opinion, and its my opinion that you are not entitled to your opinion.

I don't want opinions, I want Facts. And the facts to date are strongly against you.

 

[VapApe]

Bravo Hatter bravo. Even tho according to the OP, I am not untitled to a opinion.


Here is an interesting read

http://www.aspartame.net/onpagepdf/Skeptic_Article_Aspartame.pdf

 

[panachronic]

ASPARTAME is literally the fecal matter of genetically engineered bacteria such as Ecoli - bacteria are fed toxic substances which make them defecate aspartame.

Good grief.

 

[Spazmelda]

Splenda there isnt much documented on it, but Splenda CAN adversely affect the body in several ways because it IS a chemical substance and not natural.

I see this sort of thinking all the time and it always boggles me. Natural = good. Man made = bad. So, dog poop is natural. That makes it good to eat? Arsenic is natural, so it's good?

Everything you put in your body is made of chemicals. Water is a chemical. Air is made of chemicals.

That's not to say that everything that is a chemical is good, but just to say something is bad because it's a chemical is illogical.

Kind of like saying something is 'bad' because it's an ingredient in antifreeze or because Nazis used it at some point in time.

 

[frosting]

Man you guys sure gave him/her a hard time! While I agree the delivery may have not been the best, there is some truth to this. Aspartame is beyond terrible for your body. I researched this a while ago.

From my understanding about Aspartame, some chemists were trying to make fertilizer/the word escapes me bug repellent? While doing this, they made an oops, the oops that is Aspartame. I've read from many gardeners who use aspartame sweeteners in their gardens as well to keep it free of ants. What's strange is before I could easily find that origin information and now many sites claim "Oooh no no, someone was trying to find an anti-ulcer medication!" I could of of sworn a couple years ago I read on Wikipedia, Aspartame was an oops from fertilizer. I dunno but something doesn't seem right about the stuff. I avoid it whenever possible personally.

 

[jakerock]

Many great leaps in chemistry and science were due to unexpected results.

 

[dotma]

but you're just being sensationalistic by saying they crap Aspartame.

This is good!

I dont know how to tell which sweeteners a company uses in their uses. I dont think they disclose that do they?

The part that interested me was that the OP said it caused cluster headaches. I get cluster headaches and they SUCK. However, nicotine can also cause cluster headaches, so who knows?

 

[Jim Bob]

Some "education" (when it's legit) is fine but I'll tell you what I "get out of all of this"

Keep in mind this is ME personally

It seems pretty much every day someone raises some "great alarm" about this or that concerning vaping and how it MIGHT be "kind of bad for you" addressing a huge group of smokers and recent (for the most part) ex smokers......WOW

I then think that smoking KILLS Many Millions of people every single year in the US alone, many more suffer greatly for years with COPD , various cancers , amputations we KNOW are 100% smoking caused.......

I don't know about everyone else but it seems "odd" TO ME that we worry about so many "what ifs" when we KNEW what smoking DOES DO and we smoked for how long........

 

[swedishfish]

The use of aspartame in our products was declined 17 years in a row by the FDA until finally in 1981 it was approved. The reason for its previous disapprovals was the over abundance of evidence and tests in labs that show how deadly it actually is.

What the FDA did with aspartame is very similar to what they're doing with pv's so it's a good place to bring this up. The ban, based on bad science took almost 20 years and an act of congress to dis-spell the myths of those flawed tests. This is an excellent example of how futile and what an uphill battle it is to fight. Many people still believe it even though it's been proven to be safe. I fear we're going to fight the same kind of thing with ecigs 20 years from now. People will still be spouting all of the inaccuracies, like this poster is.

 

[martinc]

Oh when aspartane is used in something I can taste it right away...never tasted the stuff in e-juice though.

It sickens me...disgusting taste really.

 

[Sa Da Tay]

I don't know about everyone else but it seems "odd" TO ME that we worry about so many "what ifs" when we KNEW what smoking DOES DO and we smoked for how long........

I can appreciate your point but the fact is that in a completely unregulated industry unsupported by sound clinical research, it is up to the users and advocates to regulate it themselves and explore all facets of safety/harm reduction. For me, "at least this is better than smoking" isn't entirely sufficient and I very much appreciate all the explorations on here into potential health risks. As is said here often, we're basically all willing guinea pigs.

With that said, this notion does invite unfounded claims like those posted in this thread which we have to weed through, but the clarifying and informative responses here illustrate the value of our ECF community.

 

[Thank You]

 

[Jim Bob]

I LOVE that it is NOT a "Regulated Industry" BT IS regulated and look how that worked out for all of us here!

Regulated WILL mean MUCH MORE $$ for basic things, taxes= regulation= more taxes= more ways to tax = more regulation......ad nauseum

There is no harm in wanting to be informed, it's misinformation and "fear mongering" that I am talking about, it's bad enough we have BT, BP and the FDA looking to take all of this that they can from us

NO point that I can see in helping them with unfounded claims and "worse" which is more times than not in my view at least what we get the most of when these topics come up.

There is nothing keeping anyone from smoking if they REALLY NEED TO KNOW what they're doing is going to likely kill them and IMO it doesn't take a genius to know the things we vape are nothing like what is in smokes of any kind, and NO CO , and on and on

PG/VG, nicotine and food flavorings - things ALL Americans have consumed in various forms for a long , long time,

To "each his/her own" but there are real things to be concerned about , life is never going to be without major risks and I seriously do not believe that vaping will ever be honestly proved to be even close to half as bad as so many other legal things - .

That is not to say there will not always be fear mongering without any evidence which does not and can never help anyone , and will harm vapers in the long run.