Sounds like the VVPV (AKA Wharf) and the Cannon (AKA Rat) = the perfect setup LOL
Buzz Pro BETA TEST results
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Pretty darn close to it. Although I still like my Fusions on a Buzz the best. But for someone that is into a feeder style mod I can't imagine finding anything any better. It's just the right size, it has a very nice set up for voltage adjustment and dispensing juice. The buttons and other controls are layed out perfect IMO. Plus with this cannon on here I don't see how you could get anymore vapor. I will have to try feeding a Fusion before it's gone though.
The last test I did the IMRs I listed them as 550 Mah and then on the next line I put 3.7volt 880 Mah which was stupid. How can they be both 550 and 880? DUH. they're 550 MAH. Sorry if I confused anyone. It's too late to edit. I'm doing them again now and will list them right.
5/26/2011
Black/flames Trustfire 3.7 volt batteries
dual coil cartomizer
Metered 1.50 Ohm
Buzz Pro set at 4.55 volts
1:30 PM start
10.00 PM stop
start 9:00 AM (5/27/2011
11:00 AM Batteries need recharged
Total 10hrs. 30 min.
5/26/2011
Black/flames Trustfire 3.7 volt batteries
dual coil cartomizer
Metered 1.50 Ohm
Buzz Pro set at 4.55 volts
1:30 PM start
10.00 PM stop
start 9:00 AM (5/27/2011
11:00 AM Batteries need recharged
Total 10hrs. 30 min.
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5C I just saw your post about IMRs from a few days back. The IMRs are about drain rate. A standard LI batt can only handle 2.5C drain for the most part safely. IMR can take up to around 10C drain if I remember right. The chemistry in a IMR also wont go thermal. (supposedly).
With the chip mikes putting in the Pros there would be no reason to need a IMR batt. You should never be exceeding the drain rate as far as I can see.
With the chip mikes putting in the Pros there would be no reason to need a IMR batt. You should never be exceeding the drain rate as far as I can see.
That was my point. these are ecigs we're talking about not medical equipment or some very important application and since everyone started using protected batteries I haven't heard of any exploding. I'm sure high drains have their place but it isn't ecigs.
Why don't they just make one coil that's twice as long? Probably because it wouldn't create the hype the dual coil creates. I mean in the general public dual always creates more hype than single. Dual exhaust, dual fours, a one ton Pick-up with duals. Dual GPS Cradle, Dual Turntables,Dual Audio Equipment, dual-boot, and on and on. I'm just not into hype.
See I guess I'm just not cool but I think it's because I have a one track mind. I need a dual track mind huh?
I'm going to come out with a dual Fusion. Oh I guess I don't need too they're already cool without duals.
I'm going to come out with a dual Fusion. Oh I guess I don't need too they're already cool without duals.
Thats because your dual cool.
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5card, you confuse me!
So you don't like the DC's? Or you only like Isaac's DC's? Or, are they all just "OK" or even less than "OK"? Or, are they all pointless to you because having VV negates "the need"? Or you don't like any of them or their attributes because of the "hype" surrounding them?
Hype can be good or bad -- good for vendors, for sure. Sometimes good for consumers, too! I've been suckered in on more than a few items myself because of it, but I've also found a few real winners along the way-- The Buzz, the Fusion carto and the DC come to mind as huge winners for me!! I am so very, very glad I got on those "hype" bandwagons!
This device looks very promising and I see there is quite a buzz over it. I have a couple questions about this that I haven't seen answered.
Is there an LED screen or some type of indicator to let you know what voltage it is set to?
What type of metal are the top connector caps made out of?
I like all the thread options as well as the color options. I will be keeping my eye on this!
Is there an LED screen or some type of indicator to let you know what voltage it is set to?
What type of metal are the top connector caps made out of?
I like all the thread options as well as the color options. I will be keeping my eye on this!
5card, you confuse me!
So you don't like the DC's? Or you only like Isaac's DC's? Or, are they all just "OK" or even less than "OK"? Or, are they all pointless to you because having VV negates "the need"? Or you don't like any of them or their attributes because of the "hype" surrounding them?
Hype can be good or bad -- good for vendors, for sure. Sometimes good for consumers, too! I've been suckered in on more than a few items myself because of it, but I've also found a few real winners along the way-- The Buzz, the Fusion carto and the DC come to mind as huge winners for me!! I am so very, very glad I got on those "hype" bandwagons!
I like the DC's Pokey. Not just Isaacs I have some from Fran and some from clouds that are very good. But I thought about it and did research on it and I don't like what they do to my PV and my batteries. They overwork both and for what? A good vape? I get a better vape already from the Fusions and other higher and regular ohm cartomizers that don't overwork and stress my equipment that much. APlus I'm not using a joye 510 or an ego anymore so it doesn't make sense. When I went to a variable voltage mod it made things like LR obsolete.
My other thought was why didn't they just make the coil longer? It would achieve the same thing. The only reason I could see is hype and it seems to have worked very well. They have great product sales research team working for them.
If they ever came out with one that was higher ohms that didn't stress everything I would then be interested in them, Maybe. I'm just not a person to be caught up in Hype Pokey and beings they are dual coil and not a single longer coil that is Hype for sales.
There is a difference between hype and great product information. I don't believe the Buzz, etc. was hype but instead a great new product. I too have to confess that I've wasted money on hype but to continue to buy a product that stresses my equipment just because it's the hot new thing is what I'm talking about.
I can prove it. I posted a thread about why LR is bad, from an electrical site, and it lasted about a minute. People don't want to know that the "in thing" is bad for their stuff and the other reason I posted about why dual insted of longer.
I'm just trying to keep people on this forum informed like I always do.
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I have not read any supplier hype at all on these so not sure where you are coming from with that. There is however many, many members that are posting in many areas of the forum about how much more flavor these produce with the added benefit of not burning. The threads that I have read only talk about the fact that they are Smok Tech DCs and could not at all be construed as hype or plugs for any particular vendor
The threads that I have read only talk about the fact that they are Smok Tech DCs and could not at all be construed as hype or plugs for any particular vendor There is marks on the adjuster for the setting. He also has a screw on meter if your interested in the voltage but unless I'm testing I haven't used it. If it's to hot I turn it down and vice versa. They try to keep a reasonable price on their products is why they don't build one into it. The top caps are made of Brass I believe. The Buzz Pro is a great PV but so is the Buzz and both Infinity models.
I have not read any supplier hype at all on these so not sure where you are coming from with that. There is however many, many members that are posting in many areas of the forum about how much more flavor these produce with the added benefit of not burning.
That is exactly my point. Thank you Salem. Too bad more people didn't inform them of the added stress they are putting on their PVs. But that's just useless info anyway right salem? Why didn't they just make a single longer coil? Hype maybe?
I like DCs, don't get me wrong and I'm not on a mission to destroy them I just want people to know that there is a cost for using them. I've been vaping them all this week from many different vendors.
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I understand LR stresses batteries, but how does it stress a pv?
BTW if there was a 1Ω carto that was better than anything else, I would gladly give up battery time and total life. I know (I think) that my Fusions @ 2.5Ω and my V2's @ 2.2 - 2.4Ω shorten my battery life. I could use 3Ω carts but I fell for the "hype" of the of the Fusions and they are the best I've used.......... so far.
For that matter the hype on the Buzz and the ∞ as well..... and I'm glad I did.
BTW if there was a 1Ω carto that was better than anything else, I would gladly give up battery time and total life. I know (I think) that my Fusions @ 2.5Ω and my V2's @ 2.2 - 2.4Ω shorten my battery life. I could use 3Ω carts but I fell for the "hype" of the of the Fusions and they are the best I've used.......... so far.
For that matter the hype on the Buzz and the ∞ as well..... and I'm glad I did.
I haven't read other threads about the DCs so I have no idea what most people are using them on, but this warning is stated on most sites that are selling them:
NOTE: Will not work with eGo, 510, 901 or mosfet driven type batteries. The Dual Coil should to be used with 3.7 volt mods with a switch capable of handling 2 or more amps.
We don't have to worry about that on the Buzz but I wonder how many people even know what their switch is rated, or what a mosfet even means. I like the flavor I'm getting from the DC I have, but am concerned about the stress it is putting on my Buzz. I'm not trying to discourage anyone from using these, I personally don't want to take a chance that the extra work my Buzz is doing is going to mean an early demise to it
NOTE: Will not work with eGo, 510, 901 or mosfet driven type batteries. The Dual Coil should to be used with 3.7 volt mods with a switch capable of handling 2 or more amps.
We don't have to worry about that on the Buzz but I wonder how many people even know what their switch is rated, or what a mosfet even means. I like the flavor I'm getting from the DC I have, but am concerned about the stress it is putting on my Buzz. I'm not trying to discourage anyone from using these, I personally don't want to take a chance that the extra work my Buzz is doing is going to mean an early demise to it
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