I am not sure if this should be in the campaigning thread but i havent seen any posts about this on here so i thought i should say it just in case someone hasnt heard
california bans e cigs in 4 days.
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The governor has to sign the bill before it can actually be a law. I have a feeling that he won't sign it.
I dont know man optsmk.. the governator seems to be making all the progressive decisions in california... and considering how much $ theyre losing.. i think they might
They are not banning them because they could be bad for you they are banning them because they work so good in stopping people from smoking.
State and local excise taxes - $16,206,204,000 on cigs for 2008
State and local excise taxes - $16,206,204,000 on cigs for 2008
There are a few thread on this topic posted at this forum, the most popular on seem to be this one.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/40580-12-days-left-before-ban-sales-ca.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/40580-12-days-left-before-ban-sales-ca.html
Okay, just to be clear. The way I read the language of SB 400 only the sale of hardware will be banned. The possession, use, and even purchase of devices and liquid will still be legal. Since I doubt Chinese retailers will care, this effects only US distributors of devices (not liquids). I hate this too, especially since I live in cali, but it is not the end of the world, just the beginning of the end. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, I can't afford to be misinformed about this.
On a related note, Shwarzenegger is threatening a mass veto of bills currently on his desk if he doesn't get what he wants in the way of a water deal. Just for our sake, I hope he does. Here's the article
The Associated Press: Schwarzenegger threatens vetoes to get water deal
On a related note, Shwarzenegger is threatening a mass veto of bills currently on his desk if he doesn't get what he wants in the way of a water deal. Just for our sake, I hope he does. Here's the article
The Associated Press: Schwarzenegger threatens vetoes to get water deal
you have to go to the actual youtube video to get all the info. It is easy to send so please send it to da governator
So you are saying that if a supplier was in Cali and only sold Ejuice that they have nothing to worry about?
Either way any laws, or bans on anything involving Ecigs or Ejuice is a blow to the freedom of vapers. Its never too late to send a email, fax, twitter, or a simple phone call. Even if you don't live in Cali it would still be nice if you can take a moment and tell the Governors staff how Ecgis have changed your life.
Worry? yes. Give up and call it quits? No. Like I said, anyone who knows more than I do feel free to tell me I'm wrong. (It won't be a first). That is what I gathered reading over senate bill 400. It classifies only the hardware as drug delivery devices, declaring their sale and distribution illegal, but doesn't say anything about liquid. It is implied it is a drug, but with the page long explanation of "tobacco products" and "drug delivery devices" and definitions of everything involved, I don't think implied counts.
Believe me, I sent my letter, spent a good hour writing it. I told him how appalled I am that this could happen to us. We all need to like you said, even if you're not from california. I just want to make sure no one is freaking out and draining their accounts to stock up if it isn't necessary yet. I am stocking up, but not going broke to do it.
I may be wrong but it's my understanding that the bill will take effect unless the guv signs to veto it.
Firhill- You're right, he doesn't have to sign it for it to become law, just not veto it. Here's the page.
StateScape - Governor Signing Deadlines
StateScape - Governor Signing Deadlines
You can email Schwarzenegger at Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger - Interact or contact on twitter @Schwarzenegger. No use calling now, State offices are on furlough today due to budget cuts. No way to leave a message before the deadline. Dang!
There are several threads about this under news and campaigning.
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There are several threads about this under news and campaigning.
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So he is trying to hijack the water supply for southern Cali now or what? That whole region is actually pretty water poor to start with. Few people realize that despite the fact the earth is covered 75% in water, of that only about 3% of that is fresh water suitable for human consumption and of that roughly 2% is in the polar icecaps and glaciers leaving around 1% for the entire population to live on! Scary thought indeed, people don't realize the true value of water until the well runs dry.
I would be much more concerned about that issue than whether people have access to E-Cigs! This shows just how screwed up the values in our society are. Corporations like Coca Cola can go into a area in Africa and buy up the water rights and trashing the water supply of the natives when they set up their factories and start polluting the rivers. It happens on a daily basis, you can literally walk across some rivers atop the floating debris and dead fish on top of the water, it's sickening.
I would be much more concerned about that issue than whether people have access to E-Cigs! This shows just how screwed up the values in our society are. Corporations like Coca Cola can go into a area in Africa and buy up the water rights and trashing the water supply of the natives when they set up their factories and start polluting the rivers. It happens on a daily basis, you can literally walk across some rivers atop the floating debris and dead fish on top of the water, it's sickening.
I believe his major concern is updating dams, which may not be able to withstand a good earthquake and thus would cause flooding which could kill a lot of people.
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