Can anyone using ni200 with Billow v2 help?

[Azumi]

hi guys,

first of all i am using evic Vt with the billow v2. all these while ive been using it with a kanthal.
my experience with kanthal is that u need to do a heavy inhale to get a decent amount of vapor, probably around 4-5 secs each time.

i recently purchased a 28awg ni200 and started recoiling the billow v2 to little success.
my questions:

1) is it true that for ni200, u need to do a spaced coil build for it to work? also, is it true that u need to do 2mm coil diameter or below for it to work?
2) when using ni200, u cannot use the power mode on the evic vt. u have to use the temp control mode?
3) in the temp control mode, if u fire too low (<350"F), it would not fire and "temp protection" message is displayed. is this because the temp is too low? or there's other issues here?
4) ive tried wicking many ways. lotsa wicks, lesser wicks, different settings over and over again but i cannot get the tank to stop leaking. somehow then juice will just find its way out from the air holes. ive made sure to trim the wicks just so that the tip will touch the small 'cove' of the deck and made sure that none of it is touching the top airhole. what did i do wrong?
5) with ni200, u usually need very short inhale. like 1-2 sec and u get a lot of vapor. the feeling is really different from using kanthal. is this right or my setting is wrong?

im sorry for the wall of text. really appreciate if anyone could help..

 

[K_Tech]

hi guys,

first of all i am using evic Vt with the billow v2. all these while ive been using it with a kanthal.
my experience with kanthal is that u need to do a heavy inhale to get a decent amount of vapor, probably around 4-5 secs each time.

i recently purchased a 28awg ni200 and started recoiling the billow v2 to little success.
my questions:

1) is it true that for ni200, u need to do a spaced coil build for it to work? also, is it true that u need to do 2mm coil diameter or below for it to work?

Some people have better success with spaced coils, and I am one of them. I really haven't explored contact coils, I started using spaced coils and that's what I stuck with.

2) when using ni200, u cannot use the power mode on the evic vt. u have to use the temp control mode?

I'll have to leave someone else to answer that, I am not familiar with the operation of the Evic VT.

3) in the temp control mode, if u fire too low (<350"F), it would not fire and "temp protection" message is displayed. is this because the temp is too low? or there's other issues here?

Yes, the temperature setting is too low. I usually shoot for a temperature around 450-ish, and don't really worry much about the power settings.

Edited to add:

I re-read that and rethought my answer. If it's not firing at all, your base resistance may be off.
I'm using numbers I pulled out of the air, but let's say that your resistance when you first put the atty on was 0.25 ohms. That's the resistance used for the temperature calculation, and the resistance that the mod now sees as "room temperature".
If something happened to increase the resistance to, let's say, 0.3 ohms, whenever you hit the fire button, the mod will see that increased resistance and "think" that the coil is already hot.
Let everything cool off, and re-set the base resistance to whatever your atomizer is reading at that time, and everything should be okay.

4) ive tried wicking many ways. lotsa wicks, lesser wicks, different settings over and over again but i cannot get the tank to stop leaking. somehow then juice will just find its way out from the air holes. ive made sure to trim the wicks just so that the tip will touch the small 'cove' of the deck and made sure that none of it is touching the top airhole. what did i do wrong?

It may be the tank, honestly. Most rebuildables will weep/leak occasionally, but if it's leaking a LOT, there may be a damaged (or possibly missing) o-ring or something not seated properly.

5) with ni200, u usually need very short inhale. like 1-2 sec and u get a lot of vapor. the feeling is really different from using kanthal. is this right or my setting is wrong?

If you're pleased with it, it's not wrong.

im sorry for the wall of text. really appreciate if anyone could help..

That's why we're here!

 

[Wolfenstark]

Yet to use nickel and don't have that tank but from what i have read.

Don't need to do a spaced coil but it helps with getting the coil to glow evenly. diameter doesn't matter.
Yes you have to use temp mode.
Are you firing it without a wick or a dry wick to get the temp protection displayed ?
Ive read that tank can be hard to wick right and snaps wire easily. You coil may not be long enough or maybe longer wicks down the channels may help.
How it vapes is probably something to do with your build or mod settings , adjustments need to be made to get what you prefer.

 

[Azumi]

Thanks guys for the replies.
Im currently with a 6reps of 2mm and is getting 0.07ohm. It scares me, is it a little too low?

Tried googling for leaking issues with the billow but didnt get any results. Perhaps because im one of the rare ones who got the black version, which isnt stainless steel like the silver. The oring is there and all, it just leaks when it gets too hot. Think i wasted 2ml out of the full tank everytime, it hurts.

 

[K_Tech]

Thanks guys for the replies.
Im currently with a 6reps of 2mm and is getting 0.07ohm. It scares me, is it a little too low?

Tried googling for leaking issues with the billow but didnt get any results. Perhaps because im one of the rare ones who got the black version, which isnt stainless steel like the silver. The oring is there and all, it just leaks when it gets too hot. Think i wasted 2ml out of the full tank everytime, it hurts.

From a safety standpoint, if it's within the limits of the mod, it's not too low. However, from a control standpoint, you may want to bump the resistance up a bit.
The device is looking for a percentage change in the resistance. A small resistance change from a baseline of 0.07 ohms is going to make a HUGE difference in the temperature estimate made by the device. Try moving up around .15-ish and see what happens.

 

[Hans Wermhat]

I got the billow V2 a couple of weeks ago. It's a mother forklift to figure out the wicks. Lol! You need a LOT of cotton in those fat wells in the threads. Wet the wick and VERY GENTLY pack it into the cut out space. Make sure you don't flatten it out. You have to fill that whole cut out or it will leak. And if it sticks out of the cut out, threading the cap on it will pull the cotton out of the wells and into the threads. Yes, you have to use TC mode with Ni200 wire. The resistance is too low and probably won't fire in power mode. And if it does, it could heat the wire to unsafe temps. I haven't tried that tank with TC yet. Are you putting 2 coils in it or just the one? .07 sounds really high for 28G duals @ 2mm and 6 wraps. That's about what I got on a single coil build with those specs. I don't think the billow will work well with a single coil. It's made for 2. The juice channels are huge and you would have to block off the other side or it would leak like a sieve, and there's no option to block off the 2nd airflow.

 

[Azumi]

Im using dual coil set up.
Ahh, u need to fill up the top part of the juice channel i see. Ive always thought just a little wick on that side is what i need.

Recoiled last night with 8reps or 3mm and it still reada 0.07. Ill try with more wicks soon. Thanks all!