Can I freeze Ejuice?

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I must admit im expecting a ban hammer eventually in some form. Whether that be In the form of hiked prices or restrictions or a straight ban I Dont know. But if someone is losing to much money then its only a matter of time :( But I digress. Was thinking I may at somepoint like to stock up on ejuice while things are good. I noticed some say to refrigerate to extend there life. So my question is can someone tell me what the lifespan is normally, refrigerated, and if possible can they be freezed?:unsure:
 

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I don't know about freezing but if you put it in the fridge it should last quite a while. I would think that freezing and then thawing might do something weird to the liquid. I guess as long as you bring it to room temp or at least 60 degrees you should be fine. Hopefully you're wrong about the ban thing. I mean, it does make sense you're right. But for all of us vapors lets hope you are wrong. Don't we live in the land of the free and the home of the brave??? Oh wait, I forgot its the land of the rich and the home of the poor middle-lower class. LOL!
 

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What possible decent reason could anyone give for banning vaping? They can say that it's because of the PG, but dude...that stuff is in my shampoo. Also, we could still use VG juices. And we will always have access to nicotine in cigarettes, sooo...I dunno. I just don't know what logical reason they'd give.

Oh wait, it doesn't have to be logical...that's how they 86ed my beloved Dreams :(
 

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the normal shelf life of e-juice is about 2 years...if kept under 60 C...(and that's 60C which is like 140 farenheit)...so room temperature is fine

I don't think it would freeze....PG is used as an antifreeze after all...(farmers add it to the livestock water supply in the winter to keep it from freezing..

and I wouldn't keep it in the fridge either (people have been known to have juice go bad from that...

just dark (out of direct sunlight), cool, and airtight.....I'd probably put it in dark glass bottles with no air in the headspace for long term storage though...
 

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freezing should be fine, but you'd want to make sure you mix the bottle well after thawing it. however storing it in the fridge seems adequate - i don't see why that would make it go bad. i work in a lab and we keep biologics in cold storage to prevent degradation (chemical reactions such as breakdown occur slower at colder temperatures).

the normal shelf life of e-juice is about 2 years...if kept under 60 C...(and that's 60C which is like 140 farenheit)...so room temperature is fine

I don't think it would freeze....PG is used as an antifreeze after all...(farmers add it to the livestock water supply in the winter to keep it from freezing..

and I wouldn't keep it in the fridge either (people have been known to have juice go bad from that...

just dark (out of direct sunlight), cool, and airtight.....I'd probably put it in dark glass bottles with no air in the headspace for long term storage though...
 

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Some people freeze it, some keep it in the fridge, some just keep it cool and dark. The only safe method at this point in time seems to be the last.

Some say freezing is OK but there are liquid suppliers who disagree. You'd have to do a two-year test with several types of liquid and be able to analyse the nicotine content at the end, to know for sure if that works OK - assuming the flavors survive.

Some keep it in the fridge. However one of the guys here apparently lost $200 worth of eliquid doing that. I believe he is a zero-nic vaper so the problem must have been flavor loss or contamination. If you've ever stored a light-flavored food in the fridge and had it ruined, you'd know why this happens - water vapor and flavors somehow cross the storage container barrier and either get out or get in. Maybe if the liquid is stored with zero headspace in glass bottles and then wrapped in a sealer on top of that, you'd be OK. Maybe - because water vapor plus the flavors it carries can cross just about any barrier by osmosis.

If you store eliquid in dark glass bottles, with no gap above it in the bottle, in a box so it's totally dark, in a cool place with low humidity, then that is proven effective for the life of the liquid which is stated as two years. If you don't have anywhere like that to store it then you would have to be creative. Just now, it seems that no one has come up with a proven safe alternative. I haven't heard of anyone who states they successfully froze or fridge-stored their supplies for two years, and that's the number you have to beat.

If you are looking to stock up for the long term I think the best policy might be to get very high strength base liquid (eg 100mg) and seal that to the nth degree, then store it cool, dark, and low-humidity. All the other ingredients of eliquid are over the counter materials and can't be restricted never mind banned. Bear in mind that high-strength nic liquid is dangerous and you shouldn't be going anywhere near it unless you have some appreciation of the issues.

The only other vital part is the atomizer and again there are arguments about how to store those. All I know is that you need to test them before you store them, as some are likely to be dud. 50% of the last batch of 510 LR atties I bought were dud or faulty.

There aren't many people who could give you reliable advice on this subject and one of them is Nick O'Teen, the pro eliquid manufacturer. So go ask him :)

He created the most expensive eliquid ever made, Caviar Flavour, and he knows a thing or two about it. He has the Decadent Vapours supplier forum here. He only wholesales to other suppliers, and the liquids you buy often come from him.


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freezing should be fine, but you'd want to make sure you mix the bottle well after thawing it. however storing it in the fridge seems adequate - i don't see why that would make it go bad. i work in a lab and we keep biologics in cold storage to prevent degradation (chemical reactions such as breakdown occur slower at colder temperatures).

well one like I said...PG is used as an anti freezing agent....so it wouldn't freeze...

second...ask sun vaporer about the $200+ dollars of juice that went bad because it was kept in the fridge...

we've got plastic bottles that are porus and allow for some air exchange...and an enviroment like a fridge with cold circulating moisture rich air... so odors, moisture and air are going to get into those bottles...not to mention the air that's already at the top of most bottles....
 
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If you store eliquid in dark glass bottles, with no gap above it in the bottle, in a box so it's totally dark, in a cool place with low humidity, then that is proven effective for the life of the liquid which is stated as two years. If you don't have anywhere like that to store it then you would have to be creative. Just now, it seems that no one has come up with a proven safe alternative. I haven't heard of anyone who states they successfully froze or fridge-stored their supplies for two years, and that's the number you have to beat.

hey roly....I just wanted to say that this is actually a fairly easily achieveable thing...
cobalt glass bottles...with no air in the headspace...in an opaque pelican case (they're airtight (and air can be somewhat removed from it via it's pressure valve and the addition of oxygen eliminating crystal packs)...and kept in a basement or climate controled room...
 

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Thank You for all the great info. I wasnt sure of the shelf life and if its about 2 yrs then thats ok. Looking to get a year+ supply atleast and it looks from the posts that this shouldnt be a problem. As far as a ban perhaps im going to far. Atleast I can stock up before they tax the crap outta everything. After all I live in NY!:ohmy: One thing this has taught me is there is nothing they arent capable of when it comes to mugging there people with a smile on there face. Anyway great posts you guys and gals kicka>> :p
 
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