Cancer from e cigarettes?

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bosshoss

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This is a question i pondered a little bit ago. Is it possible to get cancer from e-cigarettes? This is my logic. If the tobacco that is harvested is grown with radioactive chemicals and the nicotine is derived from these plants, wouldn't the nicotine in e juice be radioactive/cancer causing? I know that this is the case for analog cigarettes, that is why if you use "natural tobacco" to roll cigarettes it is still radioactive, thus bad for you. I used a e cigarette for over 6 months but have since quit. I know from experence that e- cigarettes are not harmless. I thought i would just throw this question out their and see what the community thought.
 

bosshoss

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Just the usual. effects from Pg. Sore throat and such. Nothing to bad. I did notice a impact on my breathing. Shortness of breath and wheezing. Its more along the lines of nicotine. People don't consider the amount of nicotine that you can consume while smoking an e cig. I believe i was constantly cranked out on nicotine. I am not saying that e cigarettes do not have their use but i don't believe they should be used long term.
 

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Did I wake up in a 50's sci-fy movie? Who said tobacco was grown with radioactive chemicals? I'm pretty sure doing that intentionally would get you a prison sentence. It may just be me but, I find your question to be really unusually phrased.

Everything is a little radioactive. It's just not at harmful levels. Everything you eat or drink contains deadly toxins in minute quantities. The process of nicotine extraction is designed to get just the nicotine. It's probably not completely perfect but, it's pretty close. So, the other toxins might be there but, they are in minute quantities.

I don't think anyone on here would say that using PVs is healthier than not using PVs. However, if the choice is use PVs or smoke, PVs win.
 

Zal42

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This is a question i pondered a little bit ago. Is it possible to get cancer from e-cigarettes? This is my logic. If the tobacco that is harvested is grown with radioactive chemicals and the nicotine is derived from these plants, wouldn't the nicotine in e juice be radioactive/cancer causing? I know that this is the case for analog cigarettes, that is why if you use "natural tobacco" to roll cigarettes it is still radioactive, thus bad for you. I used a e cigarette for over 6 months but have since quit. I know from experence that e- cigarettes are not harmless. I thought i would just throw this question out their and see what the community thought.

It's not radiation that makes cigarettes carcinogenic, is the chemicals in there. Natural tobacco isn't much better because the carcinogens mostly come as a product of burning the plant material.

I would never say that vaping is harmless, however none of the ingredients in the juice (including the nicotine) have been found to be carcinogenic.

Also, the major health risk with cigarettes is not, despite popular belief, cancer. It's emphysema, which is perhaps an even worse way to die than from lung cancer. Cancer is, I believe, #2. The emphysema is a result of the damage smoking causes the lungs. Vaping, at worst, causes much less such damage and so even if it were equally carcinogenic it would still be a healthier alternative.
 

bosshoss

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I agree Jim but my problem is many of the new people coming into the e cigarette world believe they are totally safe. Its like no one wants to admit that e cigarettes could hurt you. Have you ever thought about that metal taste that is produced by a dry atomizer? I mean what is that!? It cant be good. Is that taste always there just covered up by the e juice flavor?
 

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There's no such thing as "totally safe".
They haven't been around long enough for anyone to do a large, independent, peer reviewed study.
If you are worried about possible health effects of e-cigs maybe you should stop using them.
After 35 years of pumping tar into my lungs I'm willing to take my chances. .
Vaping is certainly far more fun than smoking analogs.
 
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noahstudios

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Cigarettes have all those carcinogens and Tar. Which the vapor doesn't contain. I've read a couple studies that like to compare nicotine to caffeine, so thats one thing I'm not worried about. I do agree about the level of nicotine you can get from a PV, though. I've seen juices up to 50mg, which is nuts. I'm down to 18mg, and will probably drop to 16mg soon. Since I quit smoking analogs and started on digital, I've honestly only felt better in every way. Keep in mind some people are allergic to PG, and need VG, or vice verse. If you are fine without anything, thats obviously the best choice.
 

Zal42

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I agree Jim but my problem is many of the new people coming into the e cigarette world believe they are totally safe. Its like no one wants to admit that e cigarettes could hurt you. Have you ever thought about that metal taste that is produced by a dry atomizer? I mean what is that!? It cant be good. Is that taste always there just covered up by the e juice flavor?

The funny thing is that, at least around here, there are extremely few people who claim that vaping is totally safe. Maybe none -- i don't remember hearing that opinion expressed, but it I assume that I just missed it.

The majority opinion is that vaping is less harmful than smoking, and the evidence is very strong, including lab and clinical evidence -- that this is so.

I also agree with what AngusATAT said a while back in a different thread: it's fascinating how people look intensely at every detail of vaping and get alarmed at the slightest chance that some component of it might possibly be unhealthy, and yet they never gave cigarettes that kind of scrutiny and speculation when they smoked them.

For the record, I'm in favor of exploring the health questions vaping raises, and I'm in favor of being honest and upfront about the health risks we find. I am just amused at the difference of concern between cigarettes and vaping.
 

bosshoss

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yes i agree yet i am not one of those people. I looked at every aspect of cigarette smoking just as i did vaping. I look at nicotine just as i do any other drug, and tend to compare e cigarettes to spice. Not regulated or approved. I believe that the best decision for anyone would be to get off nicotine completely. If they had to choose between analogs and e-cigarettes i would say the e cigs. We are getting of topic tho. Zal tell me what you think about the atomizer and the "fumes" taste that come off of it?
 

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i did stop cookie. read my previous replies.

I've read this entire thread. If you've made posts on other threads they are not showing up on your profile yet.
Read more of this forum particularly:
Legislation News
Media and General News
The ECF Library
Health, Safety and E-Smoking
You will see that no one is claiming ecigs are "totally safe", they are saying for people who've tried to quit analogs many times and failed, these, for the time being, seem to be a better alternative.
Maybe you should have read more of the vast amounts of information here on ecf. before you picked up an ecig.
 
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