Cancer from e cigarettes?

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DC2

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That's better.
i still don't understand why you are here.
I'll bet the majority of former smokers here were aware of the fact that SMOKING tobacco increased their yearly radiation exposure.
I doubt the majority of smokers/vapers much care about how much radiation they are exposed to unless they happen to live near a nuclear power plant. They're probably more worried about cancer, emphysema and the blasted state governments balancing their budgets out of their pockets by taxing the hell out of tobacco.
Also, your citations say nothing about the level of radioactive exposure from using NICOTINE. The same nicotine that's used in patches, gums etc.
 
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Obvious Troll is obvious. Fact is, I'm addicted to nicotine. Period. I'll never argue that PV are safe. Everything causes cancer. I am an Electronics technician. I'll get cancer from being radiated by leakage from thousands of watt transmitters in radars and comms gear. That's not why I switched. I've pretty much come to grips with the fact that I will most likely get cancer in my life, the large majority of the population will, it's a side effect of being an American. The truth though, is that switching is more than running from cancer, it's about improving quality of life. I am no longer breathing through a FIRE. If you light anything on fire and breathe it for 3 min at a time 20 times a day for any length of time not to mention years, you will have adverse health effects. I like nicotine, I like the high, I like the calm. I don't want to stop that, never have. Now, the shortness of breath? The stench? That I can do without. If it doesn't go away, or other effects appear, for me, not in some lab study that may or may not have been influenced by kickbacks/pressure from scared big tobacco (ahem FDA) then I will find an alternative, maybe nicotine flavored water? But whatever. Don't believe everything you read on the internet. Obvious Trolls are usually obvious.
 

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I really don't care about the debate on radiation, all I know is that the faster I gave up analogs the better for my health. My lungs, heart and other parts of my body seem to agree. There is enough background radiation in the granite that makes up a high rise building and pollutants in the air and water to worry about this. I think the allegations are a distraction to the benefits adn clud the issue with more confusion, IMO.
 

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You cant compare smoking/cigarette study's...to Nicotine study's. Yes Nic comes from tobacco....but it's only one of 4,000 chemicals in cigs. Way to many variables.

As far as ecig's causing cancer.... there are between 43 to 50(varies by brand and type) carcinogens in cig's.
So far out of all the eliquid analyses there have been..they have found None of them.
 

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This is not evidence, it is speculation -- and speculation that can as easily and appropriately apply to chocolate, caffeine, sugar, and a host of other chemicals. And, it states (without sources) a correlation ("Approximately 50 percent to 70 percent of Americans with major depression are smokers--a rate two to three times higher than that of the general population.") and implies a causation ("smoking causes depression at a rate two to three times higher than the general population"). This is a huge error. Absent evidence, it could easily be that people are self-medicating and depressives are attracted to smoking, not that smoking makes you depressed.

This article is dubious.


These are both making the same connection. All they say is that people who have anxiety disorders should avoid nicotine -- something that is actually pretty obvious. People with anxiety disorders should avoid ALL stimulants.

I disagree DC2
So I fail to see how your links, without explanation, counters DC2's assertion that it's not necessarily "the best" thing for some people to give up nicotine.

Also, there are a lot of health benefits from nicotine. Here's a list. I don't think these are good reasons to start taking nicotine, they're just the flip side of your links.
 

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I also know that the most addictive substance in the world can not be good to consume.
Not sure I agree with that either...

Oddly, it's been shown that nicotine by itself is actually not significantly addictive when you eliminate the tobacco from the equation:

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Technically, nicotine is not significantly addictive, as nicotine administered alone does not produce significant reinforcing properties.[41] However, after coadministration with an MAOI, such as those found in tobacco, nicotine produces significant behavioral sensitization, a measure of addiction potential. This is similar in effect to amphetamine.[42]
Nicotine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

...so once you quit the tobacco smoking and have gotten the rest of the junk out of your system, lowering your nicotine and stopping it altogether won't be as hard as it would seem.

All I know is I went two full days without vaping last week, and it didn't bother me one bit.
 

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think what you like. yet i know what i have experienced. I also know that the most addictive substance in the world can not be good to consume.

Plain and simple, no one ever said nic was good to consume. You're the one that came here in one of your first post stating that someone or some people think e-cigs are totally safe, I've never nor heard anyone say that nor know any of those people.

E-cigs are a better alternative than smoking for those of us that haven't found it as easy to "jump off the wagon" as you seem to have.
 

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If my old analogs had this radiation thing I am not gonna worry bout it (cause fda says they are ok).. And a e-cig to me is way less harmfull to my health than a analog.

If god forbid the radiation in my e-cig (if it even exists) makes me glow in the dark so be it.. Be an easy way to notice other vapers too..

And last but not least if I'm vaping 0 nic juice even less of a issue..
 
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