Cancer from e cigarettes?

[bwood12043]

Cookie, I see your point although I did notice in Post #1 of this thread that Bosshoss says he/she quit PVs.

What I don't get is the assertion regarding "radioactive" tobacco, and the fact that a member here since just this month of March 2011 is trying so hard to put fear and doubt into other's minds. (Note: 9 posts on that profile and 7 of them are in this thread )

I have been vaping 2.5 years and totally analog free for 2 years in April and all I have had is POSITIVE health results and pleased doctors.

Questions regarding safety are of course welcome, but if claims of tobacco being treated with radioactive materials are going to be made, that being such a touchy subject right now, then documentation and/or backup data should be offered as well, JMHO.

Good vaping !

 

[Adrena]

Radioactive Tobacco? If we have this knowledge pictured here.

Would we not just be making the stuff synthetically and bypass the resources and time needed to grow a plant?
I thought most nic liquids came from laboratories. Whether in be e juice or a nic patch.....

Not like we go around chewing Willow bark to relive pain and inflammation any longer. No PPl made aspirin. The same chemical make up.....

 

[bosshoss]

"I used a e cigarette for over 6 months but have since quit"

yes i am new to this forum yet this does not mean i am uninformed.
Radioactive Polonium in Tobacco
here is a little info, you can find it if you search

 

[MickeyRat]

I'm not sure whether nicotine is extracted or synthesized. Either way it's not going to contain significant levels of either radiation or other toxins.

I watched too many 50s sci-fy movies. I have this picture of Godzilla rampaging out of a tobacco field now.

 

[cookiebun]

Cookie i stated i quit in the thread starter fourth sentence down.

Yes I read that.
Why are you still here debating? Why didn't you read all the information here about the known health risks of ecigs before picking one up?

Where did you get the idea that tobbacco/nicotine is "grown with radioactive chemicals"?

Some of us have decided that the we'd rather face the unknown risks of ecigs rather than the terrible, known risks of analogs.

With the exception of the nicotine, all the ingredients of the ecig juice are know to be safe to ingest. What's NOT KNOWN are the long term effects of INHALING those ingredients. I'm willing to take my chances and it's a fair bet the rest of the folks here feel the same way.

 

[bosshoss]

Adrena i have been in connection with Boge liquids and they told me they are the only company in China legally allowed to harvest tobacco for e juice. I will assume that many dealers get their nicotine for e juice from China and if not directly, indirectly. SO i believe that it is not synthetic nicotine but that it is derived from a tobacco plant.

 

[PlanetScribbles]

It is the burning of the plant matter that makes tobacco carcinogenic. Smoke lettuce and that will also give you cancer. Crispy bacon is carcinogenic if overfried. It is the burnt matter that causes the cancer.

 

[bosshoss]

Cookie cigarettes were once thought to be safe as well as many other things such as ........ If you are willing to take a risk by all means do so. If i knew what i know now i wouldn't of wasted my money on e cigarettes and furthering my addiction. I would of just gotten off of nicotine. I am bring this subject up so that others may save a couple hundred and just jump of the wagon.

 

[MickeyRat]

I'm not an expert but, I've never heard of Polonium imparting it's radioactive properties to other substances. So, in effect, it's just another substance that's left behind in the extraction process. That's assuming that nicotine isn't synthesized.

 

[NicksVap3]

its not that easy to "just jump off the wagon"
i was smoking 1.5-2 packs of newport 100s before i started using my ecigs exclusively. i have purchased a very nice, not so cheap 6v mod, about 100ml of juice, cartos and atomizers...and im still ahead by a little, and will just continue to save money now that i have good hardware and know where to look for deals. i think if the government is letting them grow radioactive tobacco, we have more problems than vaping it

 

[cookiebun]

"I used a e cigarette for over 6 months but have since quit"

yes i am new to this forum yet this does not mean i am uninformed.
Radioactive Polonium in Tobacco
here is a little info, you can find it if you search

There is no information on that page as to the credentials of the person who put it up or why.
I can't take it seriously without that information.
Yes, I have known for a very long time that smoking cigarettes is like getting 300 chest xrays a year.
BTW, I have more than John Q. Public's passing interest in radioactivity.
I've been following every news story I can find about the nuclear crisis going on in Japan.
I have a large collection of books on the 3 Mile Island and Chernobyl disasters.
I've got about 20 books on how to survive nuclear war. I did science projects in school on how to build fallout shelters.
Radioactivity is everywhere. Not smoking is a good way to avoid unnecessary exposure to radioactivity (and lung cancer etc). Some of us were too stupid to heed that advice so now we are here vaping.

 

[Adrena]

I'm Googling, ECF is lagging and trying to to burn dinner. But I have seen somewhere that not all suppliers use China juice.
in line with....Nicorette, Nicoderm and the same Johnson & Johnson lab produced nic?

 

[bosshoss]

Tobacco Smoke | Radiation Protection | US EPA
This is more accredited

 

[DC2]

I believe that the best decision for anyone would be to get off nicotine completely.

I disagree, and would like to see if you can justify that comment.

 

[bosshoss]

Nicotine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Zal42]

I believe that the best decision for anyone would be to get off nicotine completely.

Why? The health risk with nicotine itself is very small, certainly much smaller than many other risks that no one worries about. If someone derives even a medium-level benefit from nicotine, why would it be the "best" decision to eliminate it? In any case, this is truly off-topic, as your concern was initially about a specific delivery system: vaping.

Zal tell me what you think about the atomizer and the "fumes" taste that come off of it?

I have exactly no worries about it. Here's why:

Those fumes that you smell when an atty is burning dry has a lot of things in it that you shouldn't breath. Vaporized nichrome and fumes from burning stuffing material come to mind. But I don't smell that very often (well, never, now that I have skill using the equipment) and when I did, the amounts were so tiny that I was comfortable ignoring them. I poison myself more heavily when I accidentally burn a piece of plastic or let a pan boil dry on the stove.

When things are running properly, none of those fumes are produced. I know this because I know the temperatures the atty is running at, and they aren't high enough to produce poisonous fumes from the equipment itself.

My one concern is new atties... I have had some where the coil smelled like it was coated with a light machine oil during manufacture (a common practice for heating coils of all types). There is a small health risk associated with ihaling the fumes from burning machine oil. So I clean every atty before I use it. Nonetheless, even then the amounts are tiny and the risk is probably minimal -- it's just beyond my comfort zone.

 

[DC2]

I'm not sure whether nicotine is extracted or synthesized.

There is no electronic cigarette juice made from synthesized nicotine.

Nor is there any synthesized nicotine used in making patches, gum, lozenges, or any other NRT product.
It is far too expensive to synthesize nicotine for such purposes.

 

[Zal42]

I'm not sure whether nicotine is extracted or synthesized.

It's extracted. It can be synthesized, but that's more expensive than extracting it. The end result is the same either way.

 

[cigarbabe]

All of the articles you "read" have outdated information from articles published between 1939 to 2004.
Not one of those is relevant to the topic of nicotine in ecigs being radioactive is it?
Certainly not in my opinion but to each his own paranoia.
For what it's worth radioactivity is in damned near everything on earth, but I don't believe I'm going to get cancer, become sick from radiation poisoning or quit vaping because some alarmist say's "Aiyee it's the nicotine that will kill you!"
I shall continue to vape until I croak.
Thank you for explaining the "why's" Zal42!
C.B.

 

[WomanOfHeart]

There are references in that link. I only took a quick glance (because I'm at work) and it seems to me that the data can be applied to several areas including food and water.

Others have stated that nothing is 100% safe. Even breathing the air is not 100% safe and the only answer to that is to hold your breath. That's not going to work because as soon as you pass out, you'll start breathing again. I'm only being half sarcastic here. We don't live in a sterile bubble world and I doubt we ever will.

I firmly believe that vaping is SAFER than smoking. Notice I DID NOT say it was 100% safe. The only thing I know for sure right now is that six months ago there was no way I could even walk up the stairs without becoming short of breath and my singing voice was shot. Now I can run up the stairs...RUN! My singing voice is returning. I think it's more than coincidence that these things got better after I started vaping.

Thousands of people die each day from smoking related diseases. So far, no one has died from vaping related diseases. I'll take my chances because right now, it vaping only seems to be improving my life and not killing me.