Like sam.8 I find your response to smoking analogs odd. (Maybe unusual is better word.) It certainly suggests that there is something in the analogs that are lacking in e-cigs. The 4000 or so chemicals of analogs has been mentioned. It suggests that there is something or somethings in that list that is preventive for you. But - hydration could be an issue as well. My understanding is that vaping can be dehydrating. Perhaps try to rule out hydration as an issue. Hope you will find that cure again without the analogs. Multiple favors is confound the issue too. Maybe fix to a single flavor for awhile and see if re-occurrences of the sores stop after knowing hydration was not issue. Obviously I don't what is causing the re-occurrences you mention but I guess my suggestions are to change just one or two things at a time - try the change for awhile and see if those few changes fix problem. If not, rule that (or those few) out and go to something else. Kind of hoping you can fix the problems and can tell everyone - here's a fix for Canker Sores should you get them when vaping.
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My cousin had this same problem. What worked for her was TeaTree Oil(Essential Oil) and also "Mercurius Sol". It is commonly referred to as "Merc Sol". Google it and find lots of homeopathic info. She swears by it.
I'm told they can be excruciatingly painful.
Good luck....
I have tried tea tree oil. I could get past the smell if it helped. I have heard of a lot of people having success with it though. I'm glad it helped your cousin. I'm all for natural remedies, but homeopathics is an area I've avoided and will continue to do so. It's a load of... (This is coming from someone who worked in the nutritional supplement industry for 6 years)
Yep. SLS is widely discussed. I really wish it was as simple as that. I must have tried every SLS free toothpaste in existence, including straight baking soda and hydrogen peroxide.
Lots of good info in there. It has been less than two weeks since I quit smoking, so it's (way) to early to call this one yet, but I hope you're right.
I don't think so either. I hope no one came to the conclusion that I'm blaming vaping. I apologize if I came across that way. This was definitely a pre-existing issue.
I don't know why I didn't search the thread before posting this.
For some reason I was thinking my situation was unique. It obviously isn't. I apologize. After researching this for quite a bit today, this makes a lot of sense. I have allergies to other things including food, but I have learned to avoid them. I've never related a specific allergy to cankers, but it might be more simple that. Allergies are nothing more than your immune system over reacting to a harmless "foreign invader". It seems very likely that my own immune system is the cause of the cankers. If they continue beyond a couple months I will definitely be bringing this up with my doc.
Cankers as painful as they may be are not going to kill me. I refuse to continue to destroy my body by smoking simply to avoid cankers.
Thanks again everyone for all your insights.
Do you think drinking 120 oz of water a day is enough?
I've replaced my soda habit with water after reading about the PG dehydrating issue. I don't think it's a lack of hydration. However, I have been known to be wrong on occasion. 
I only mention Tea Tree in reference to homeopathic because you sure won't find it mentioned with the AMA. Tea Tree oil has also benefitted me better than any prescription drug with numerous side effects, at a fraction of the cost.
Sounds like enough to me. Maybe hydration can be ruled out. But - more confounding - you switched from soda to water. Just joking on water versus soda. I truly hope you can eventually determine exactly the cause and will know how re-occurrence can be prevented.
I had canker sores on and off since I switched to vaping around 4 months ago. Never had a canker sore in my almost 20 years of smoking, so I was quite surprised when I got a few of them and they kept coming back. I was vaping on ego attys and tanks and was finding that I sucking quite hard to get a good vape, which I think caused my canker sores. A couple weeks ago I switched to a bloog and have started to clean my cartomizers and attys weekly with an ultrasonic cleaner. So far, so good, I haven't had a canker sore since.
Not so good. The one hasn't even started to heal yet. It's still growing...
Today has been really rough on me. I think the combination of the MAOI withdrawal and the cankers has really got me depressed. I don't like being depressed.
I only remember feeling this way once... I was 15 and had just broken my leg. I was being treated for asthma which included monthly steroid injections and daily oral steroids. The steroids really messed with my mind and in combination with the pain meds and my friends not wanting to hang out with me because I was a gimp really got me down.
On the +++ side... I received my Maxi Roughstack from madvapes today. That did cheer me up a bit!
Sorry to hear you a lil on the blue side. I have also had this issue since I quit smoking. I -=feel=- your pain. Also have been getting gum bleeds on and off. Not just little ones, one day Ill brush before bed and the tooth paste is whitish blue just like it went in. Next day pink... then fine,then pure red. Some days Ill floss and the blood flows like I put a razor in my mouth added by bubble gum, all at random and never the same is a 24 hour period. I have noticed however my morning routine is never accompanied by blood! Only thing that changes in that 8 hour period is that I dont vape or eat.... We both know its not food. Never had any of these issues b4 quitting smoking. I have been off cigs for almost a year now and make my own juices. Nothing I have attempted to change in the juice has a effect on my problems. I wish I could help you, helping myself in the proses. But today thats just not the case. I will hunt down this thread if I find any thing that works for me!
Hang in there the blues will pass!
Justin
Hang in there the blues will pass!
Justin
It's so weird that I almost want to know what happens if you smoked again for a week.....but there has to be a better way to figure this out than that......
And to the other poster with the bleeding gum issue....wow! it seemed sort of normal until you mentioned you quit a year ago!!
I have a few friends in the health industry....I'll ask a few people and see if any of them have suggestions.
And to the other poster with the bleeding gum issue....wow! it seemed sort of normal until you mentioned you quit a year ago!!
I have a few friends in the health industry....I'll ask a few people and see if any of them have suggestions.
In my original post I didn't mention I had quit smoking for nearly a month about three years ago. During that quit attempt the sores returned as well.
I'm going to try an experiment. I'm going to steep about a half cig worth of tobacco in water for 30 minutes and then use it as a mouthwash twice a day. I'll report back with my experience.
I know some nicotine will steep out of the tobacco, but does anyone have an idea as to how much?
Can't imagine that would work. You're getting nic now with vaping. There is a thread and a blog that deals with (I think) WTE. WTE meaning whole tobacco extract. DVap I think was the poster. I'll look up info and post the link. Another experiment might me snus. (Hoping I have "snus" right.) But - a smokeless tobacco product is intended meaning of "snus". Tropical Bob (again, memory only, and another "I think") has a youtube where he vapes a snus pouch soaked in VG. That mixture would likely get more than just the primary nic of tobacco that is in e-liq. I'll look.
I was right about DVap. Here is a link he gave me that will go into WTE. It is this: E-Cigarette Forum - DVap - Blogs
Hope it helps or will lead to help on the problem.
Hope it helps or will lead to help on the problem.
During my research someone mentioned their doctor actually recommended the mouthwash thing and it worked for them. He didn't mention whether or not the doc said it was because of the nicotine, but I don't believe that was the case. During my longest quit I was using the patch so I was getting nic then as well. Since I still have quite a bit of tobacco, I figured it wouldn't hurt to try it.
Thanks for the link.
At this point I'd try it. Likely nasty but can see why it can't hurt. At the same time I wonder if the actual combustion produces something nasty that ironically keeps something else at bay. Sorta seems like that given prior quit. The nic may be irrelevant.
Maybe check into conditions that have cancers as a major symptom... Smoking hid it or weirdly treated it.
but can see why it can't hurt. At the same time I wonder if the actual combustion produces something nasty that ironically keeps something else at bay. Sorta seems like that given prior quit. The nic may be irrelevant. Maybe check into conditions that have cancers as a major symptom... Smoking hid it or weirdly treated it.
Hope the mouth wash works. The link has (IMO) some interesting things however your situation may resolve.
A follow up of prior post. DVap addresses the "X" factor. That is, that factor of vaping that seems short, for some, of smoking. Your situation may present a "Y" factor.
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