Can't get no (flavor) satisfaction with eGo

[ronlitton]

Got a Joye eGo set about a year ago, and got serious about switching to vaping about 5 months ago. As of 6 weeks ago, I've completely switched off of analogs. However, it's VERY frustrating. I can't get consistent flavor. I've tried the atty/cartridge method that came with the eGo, I've tried direct-dripping onto the atty, I've tried 2 different types of cartos (Boge 2.0's seem to work best for me), and I've tried CE2 ceramic cartos. Flavor results are "all over the place" and are not consistent when using the same e-liquid and the same type and brand of atty or carto. I notice that atty/cartridge tastes different than drip atty, which tastes different than Boge cartos, which taste different than CE2's, when all are used with the same e-liquid. I also notice that the flavor begins to fall off when the batteries get weak, and that's my cue to switch to a new battery, but I can't explain the poor and inconsistent performance from attys, cartridges, or cartos. Perhaps it's because I'm a "cheap SOB" and want to try to refill and reuse my equipment as much as possible, before trashing it. Still, I would think that refilling a Bose carto (for example) the second time ought to get results close to the first filling. And I would think that 2 cartos from the same package ought to get very similar results. I've "read the crap" out of the Forum, looking for clues and other things I could try (cleaning techniques, refilling techniques, etc.) Is the state of the art just "not there yet" - am I expecting too much? Or am I doing something wrong? I just want a "no hassle" vape with consistent flavor and TH and don't care if there's not a lot of visible vapor (so long as there's enough to see that the PV is working) - is that too much to ask?

 

[dormouse]

Did you say anything in there about the most important part? What juices are you using? What brand, what PG/VG

And two cartos do not give the same performance and repeat performance if you put 2 different juices in them.

I get the best performance and longevity of Boge cartos with thin light clear juices that leave no sediment. I currently use no more than 20% VG in cartos and I may go to 10%. if you like to use higher VG, I heard the dual coil cartos work decently with higher VG juices (but I don't recommend using the 1.5ohm ones on Ego so look for the 2.5ohm)

And re flavor - are you smelling the vapor? Just as with food and cigs, much of the flavor is in the aroma. Your tongue can only taste sweet, salty, sour, bitter and umami (MSG). And even those flavors like sweet can fade if you vape the same flavor too long with no contrast. Things like eating, drinking hot or strongly flavored liquids, drinking alcohol can dull your sense of taste. And for the smell - even if you are remembering to let your nose have some vapor, wind and fans can blow that away too quickly.

Another factor - the more nicotine in a liquid, the less the flavor will shine through. And VG can also dull flavor.

If it is more hit you are after, you could get a 510-threaded device with removable protected true 3.7v batteries that are charged in an external charger (anything from a cheap box mod to more Ego-look things like EPower
http://e-cigcentral.net/e-cig-news/smok-tech-e-power-electronic-cigarette/

3.7v is slightly higher than Ego (Ego is about 3.4v and maybe higher when freshly charged)

Or you could get a 510-threaded variable voltage device for adjusting the voltage higher when you want (you would use standard resistance attys and cartos)

 

[r77r7r]

You can try unflavored, same thing everytime. You can put just a drop or 2 of your flavored in and slowly build up to where you like it.
It costs pennies.

 

[Stosh]

I believe the OP is looking for the perfect vape, simple consistent, flavor resembling whatever's on the bottle label. Flavors and performance will vary from carto to atty to tank, depending on brand, ohms, even two out of the same box (manufacturing variance), it will vary with voltage also (smoking was sooo simple). We are still the infancy of e-cig development, just consider how many new products are released each month. If your e-cig was a car, there would be a hand crank in front to start it up.

Me, I'm happy to not be a smoker, and put up with the b---s---- to get a vape I like.

 

[Critter Man]

We are all chasing the perfect vape. I hear contradictory statements about flavor all the time. Some say VG gives more flavor, others insist it gives less. Atty temperature, age, and gunk buildup make a difference. Even one batch of liquid to the next can be very different. When it comes to liquid, flavor delivery is in it's infancy. Stosh made an excellent analogy when he compared PVs to automobiles with hand crank starters. Flavor technology is more akin to the discovery of fire. We are the pioneers.

Keep trying different liquids and gear, you may even wish to start some DIY at home. Main thing, you're off analogs and it's a lot more fun than gum. To your health!

 

[BlueDragon9000]

I have both a RN4081 Carto-based unit and (just got) an Ego Mega. I like the battery life and capacity of the Ego, but the new juices I just got from Backwoods Brew (which are fantastic!) taste much better in the RN4081 than in the Ego, and I'm not sure why. The Ego seems to produce more vapor and more (too much IMO) throat hit, and I'm wondering if its overcooking the juice.

I will say that the Ego tastes a little better if I hit it hard, which is probably diluting the vapor with air, but still nowhere near as much taste as from the RN4081.

I'm wondering if using a Cartomizer with the Ego battery might produce different results? If so, anybody have recommendations on fillable Ego carts?

 

[dmj4]

I have a Go-Go and an Ego T LR. I got new juices from KBV and the Go-Go does not deliver flavor of what is on the bottle. The EGo-T LR gives me the best flavor. I'm not real familiar with it all, but I'm think that must mean I like LR. I think Go-Go is standard. The Go-Go gives me the best flavor with my cinnamon, though.

It is all very confusing to me.

 

[bassthumper]

I have a great, easy solution for you.

Get a low resistance 306 atomizer and a drip tip that fits it.
Direct drip 3 drops. Enjoy.

I usually use High Voltage, but this right here is excellent. I use it as a back up.

There's my quick-fix advice.

 

[studio52]

Critter man pretty much hit the nail on the head...have fun...experiment, you will eventually find your "sweet spot" and the right juice and nic mg...vape on

 

[Iusedtoanalog]

Hi Ron, first question, what flavor and type of juice are you using? The reason for the difference of the same juce in different atty/carts/cartos is the delivery of the juice to the proximity of heating coil. The reason for the difference is the fact that ALL of us have a different perception of what tastes good to us. I have been in your situation where NOTHING would taste quite right and be just annoying enough to want to try something different. I agree with prior posters that the infancy of this industry is partially to blame here as well. Imagine asking Henry ford in 1910 if he could do something about using so much gasoline in this damn motorcar..... That being said I have found much consistancy with the 't" both the ego and the 510 sized attys. I realize that cleaning is one of the most improtant things that keeps my units performing the way i like. I use a lighter colored, thinned 100%vg liquid and i do clean attys about every week and a half. I like the draw of the 510t but dont use is alot because of the small capacity of the tank. I rotate between a menthol(sometimes with fruit flavors), and a tobacco to break the monotony of the same flavor being droning.
On a more technical note, if you have access to a volt meter test your voltage periodically as you use your PV. I think you may find that this could also be a possible cause for your flavor changing. I hope you can find a suitable solution to this issue. Please keep us updated on your vaping journey, so that we may be able to help others who want to break their addiction to analogs.
Good Luck. Happy Vaping.

 

[WVvet]

I just got an EGO (1000 maH) and am experiencing the same frustration! It seems the vape is so inconsistant, I'm constantly fiddling with the cartos I got with the kit, but nothing seems to work.
Occassionally I get a few (maybe 10-15) good, flavorful vapes and then the same thing. It seems like the juice is getting boiled away or something. Have Boge cartos on the way - as well as many sample juices. Really hoping that makes a difference. I get a better flavor from my original penstyle - the only reason I switched was for the longer battery life.
Any other tips/suggestions out there?

 

[beckah54]

Thanks, now my head is playing "Can't get no satisfaction" by the Rolling Stones.

 

[scruffy123]

Hi all, new poster here, although I'm not totally new to PVs (using them for around a year now). I experienced similar issues with the Joye eGo and eGo-T, and have finally (FINALLY) retired them. However, the issue (as others have mentioned) could be your e-liquid. Are you using only one brand, which might need to put some work into their quality control? Is the bottle of liquid that you've been using as a control nearly empty or old, has it been kept in the sun, heat, etc.? All valid considerations. In my case though, the problem stemmed mainly from the design and build quality of the PV itself. Mass-produced Chinese PVs seem to be very hit-and-miss, judging from the totally dissimilar experiences their users report. I can tell you with certainty that the manufacturing tolerances of these devices occupy a very broad range. For example, after a particularly frustrating ordeal involving a box of brand new eGo-T attys and their inability to perform in both a satisfactory and consistent manner, I threw a little tantrum and played mad scientist to find out why I couldn't get my PV to perform similarly to any previous day. It turned out that wick size and positioning was totally different among every one of the attys, among other things. Moral of the story: these devices are not made with precision or durability in mind. I recently purchased a nicer mod, and have so far been pleased with it--it performs better than the eGo ever did. I suggest you continue experimenting, and if your efforts are unsuccessful, consider an upgrade.

 

[hairball]

Right at the beginning of your post, you state that you've only been off cigarettes for 6 weeks. That's about the time "it" happens. You loose the taste for everything you vape for the exception of really strong flavors like cinnamon, wintergreen, mint, spearmint, and the likes. It will pass.

I don't believe that the eGo is the problem as they are the best proprietary device there is IMO.

Give your buds some more time to heal...they will come back.

 

[ronlitton]

Thanks for the reply. I think I may be getting a handle on the problem. In a nutshell, I needed to thin out my juices. I tried diluting my juices with 15 drops Distilled Water and 15 drops pure PG per a 3ml dropper that I carry as my daily "walk around" supply, in a fresh Boge LR carto, and the burnt taste problem went away. If I'm reading this right, it means that my "stock" juices were simply too thick to wick properly. The result was that I'd get one or two puffs that tasted so-so alright, but then the next puff would taste burnt - which it WAS, since no more juice was getting to the heating element that fast. Using the diluted, thinner juice seems to have solved that problem. Makes me wonder if juices need to be a different thickness for each type of heating element combination: one thicness for carts/attys, one for direct drip, one for cartos, and one for CE-2's. Anyhow, I'm going to keep fine-tuning on the thickness/thinness theory, and see how it goes. I'm also tapering down my nic content slowly, as I get further away from analogs (after 45 years as a smoker!).

 

[ronlitton]

LOL! The reference WAS intentional, so I'm glad you picked up on it!

 

[ronlitton]

" Moral of the story: these devices are not made with precision or durability in mind. I recently purchased a nicer mod, and have so far been pleased with it--it performs better than the eGo ever did. I suggest you continue experimenting, and if your efforts are unsuccessful, consider an upgrade."

Hey, Scruffy123, just for info, what "nicer mod" did you get, and what made you decide on it versus any of the other mods out there?

 

[swedishfish]

This is just antidotal, but I get a more consistant vape from pg juice. I get my juice at nhaler and it's not thin, but it is PG. Vapes exactly the same regardless of what I use. I do like mixed pg/vg but the flavor drops off, is diminished in dual coil cartos or tanks when I used them. Not as bad in boge cartos.

 

[zoiDman]

To the OP. If you cook a meal and it doesn’t taste good do you throw away the stove and buy a new one to make the food taste better?

Perhaps you should consider trying different mixes of e-Liquids. The eGo is a solid PV.

 

[FredIsNotDead]

Where do you get boge cartos for an eGo T and what's the difference between the 650 batteries and 1000's and LR cartos vs. regular?