where can i get one of these straws which fast food restaurant of coffee shop ? i never see these ?
Cart Mod for better refilling
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dude like anywhere they sell coffee. gas stations mainly. a starbucks, probably not mcdonalds because they put the sh*t in for you lol.
I've been using this straw method for awhile now and it is amazing, and I'm saving so much juice it's unbelievable... What you can do is either get tons of them at amazon"
Amazon.com: Sip Straws (5 3/4 inch) (Box of 2,000!!!!!!!) - Blue: Kitchen & Dining
Or you can use those small straws that come with juice packs.. You know.. Those juice thingys that you put in kid's lunch boxes...
I run a 510 and COULD NOT be happier with the straw mod!
I've thought about glueing in the straw but I've got no clue on what glue would work, if any.
I've thought about glueing in the straw but I've got no clue on what glue would work, if any.
I run a 510 and COULD NOT be happier with the straw mod!
I've thought about glueing in the straw but I've got no clue on what glue would work, if any.
That's a cool idea but knowing how I am with glue, I'd be afraid I'd get too much in and then the glue would melt when the Atty got hot...
Yeah, I'd stay away from glue. There's no telling if the glue would break down due to heat and/or a combination of the liquid in the cart. What they need is a cart that has the straw mod concept integrated into it.
Maybe I missed something, do you stick the straw into the bottle to extract it? or stick iit in the end of the bottle and squeeze?
Neither, this is a modification (or "mod") to the cartridge (or "cart"). The idea is to make a path for air to flow out of the cart as you drip juice in. The straw is cut with a bevel on the bottom and cut 1/16 in. to 1/8 in. short of the top of the cart and left in tucked along side the stuffing.
Got It? Happy Vapping!
p.s. I use this in all my 510 cart and it works like a charm!
Well I posted a thread with questions about the pyramid tea bags. So I went to Walmart bought a box and OMG I love "teabagging"
It has made refilling my carts sooooooooo much easier no more tweezers, paperclips, just use my dropper bottle!!!
Thank You Thank You Thank You for whoever tried this first!!!
so you are using the Pyramid Tea Bags with the straw mod? Anyone else do this? how does it work? any leaking? what model are you using with it?
Im curious about doing this with my 401 carts (PTB + straw mod) and am wondering how much of a pain it will be to get the straw and everything into the tiny 401 carts properly.
Go to the Modders forum, cart mods, there are how to videos on the straw mod. PTB didn't work for me I use the straw, works great!
I have been using the straw method for a couple of months and love it. I don't refill as often, but when you do you fill it up. Seems to get more juice out of the cart. I use it on a 510, 901 and 401. I just used a coffee stirrer that was hollow and put it on the side of the cart. You could use a smaller straw such as a tube from canned air. It is a little smaller in diameter.
Don
Don
really i wanted to know if anyone does/did BOTH the straw mod AND the PTB mod to a single cartridge, and if so, how it worked out for them.
I tried it and it didn't work well for me. I had lots of liquid leaking out of the cart flooding the atomizer. The way the PTB works there is really no need for the straw.
The straw's purpose is to allow the air that gets trapped in the more fiberfill like material to have a way to escape the under the weight of the liquid soaking down, making it quicker to fill up polyfill type carts with a standard dropper.
I have to take my hat off to the members on this board. I tried the straw mod on my 801 with a prodigy and it has turned into a supreme PV that holds and uses more liquid hands down. When somebody wants to know what the E-cig is, I send then a link to this board. Anything you need to know about cutting edge vaping can be found here.
Thanks, Elapid----<
Thanks, Elapid----<
I am still new to this all. This seems to be working for me...
Im using the straw mod with a piece of network (cat5) cable. Inside network cable there is 4 pairs of copper wires covered in plastic casing. when thinking about the space that is being taken up by a coffee stirrer and the need to take out some batting to accommodate it, I wanted to get a really small straw that will do the following:
1- use the straw mod without decreasing the amount of batting
2- insert the straw without removing batting from the cart
3- accomplish the purpose of the straw mod (simple refilling, easy draws, better liquid use)
Basically i opened up the outer casing and stripped one of the thin copper wires, cut it to fit the cart. These are suprisingly stiff and it is really easy to slip by the batting in the cart.
I think I was able to accomplish the first two and a part of 3. It seems like it is filling nicely and the draws are smooth. I just started using it so i dont know yet how much of the liquid it will use out of the cart.
If you would like to try it let me know what you think.
rhoneil
Im using the straw mod with a piece of network (cat5) cable. Inside network cable there is 4 pairs of copper wires covered in plastic casing. when thinking about the space that is being taken up by a coffee stirrer and the need to take out some batting to accommodate it, I wanted to get a really small straw that will do the following:
1- use the straw mod without decreasing the amount of batting
2- insert the straw without removing batting from the cart
3- accomplish the purpose of the straw mod (simple refilling, easy draws, better liquid use)
Basically i opened up the outer casing and stripped one of the thin copper wires, cut it to fit the cart. These are suprisingly stiff and it is really easy to slip by the batting in the cart.
I think I was able to accomplish the first two and a part of 3. It seems like it is filling nicely and the draws are smooth. I just started using it so i dont know yet how much of the liquid it will use out of the cart.
If you would like to try it let me know what you think.
rhoneil
Very good information here about doing the straw mod to improve filling and vapor on the forums. However, I was nervous about trying it in a 510 cartridge because it seemed so small to me. However, I tried and was able to do it with a little effort, and Id like to provide instructions specific to this cart.
First you have to have a slightly smaller amount of stuffing, so that the straw will fit. You could cut off a little of the side of an existing cart, but I thought I would make my own from polyester that was a little smaller in diameter. Find directions and member videos on doing this yourself elsewhere on the forum. For now, you will need an empty cart.
Next, you need a very small diameter straw. I got some tiny cocktail straws from a liquor store, but many coffee stirrers will also work. See Picture 1, which also shows a red stirrer for comparison.
Select a straw, and slide it down into the empty cart until it touches the bottom, marking how far it goes down. Cut the straw with scissors a tiny bit (less than a millimeter) below this point so it is not quite as long as the cart is deep, and then cut the end at an angle as shown in Picture 2.
The rest of this takes some patience and fiddling around. Just go at it calmly and easily. If you get frustrated, get up and take a short break and come back and try again.
Get your stuffing and using your favorite tools (mine being the ubiquitous unfolded paperclip; oh how I love it!) slide the stuffing down over half of the way into the cart, and then push it to one side with the paperclip and slowly start sliding the straw, angle-cut end down, into the cartridge. Be sure to put it to one edge of the cart as in Picture 3 so it will not get in the way of the atomizer. You can see in the picture that the top of the straw has been dented in. This is intentional as described below.
Now finish by carefully manipulating and continuing to lower the stuffing and the straw until the straw is touching the bottom of the cart, with its top slightly below the top of the cart, once again to avoid the atomizer, and the stuffing is level at the top of the cart.
Now, using a tweezer or pushing with the paperclip, compress the top of the straw against the side of the cart, denting it in towards the side of the cart to even further minimize its proximity to the atomizer.
Finally, when placing the cart on the atomizer, look at the atomizer wick and make sure you line up the cartridge so that the straw is as distant from the atomizer as possible. I believe that we do not want it too close because of the possibility the atomizer could melt it.
With this mod in place, you should now be able to fill the cart with more drops of liquid by dripping into it than usual, and when vaping you should notice increased vapor production as well. Happy vaping!
First you have to have a slightly smaller amount of stuffing, so that the straw will fit. You could cut off a little of the side of an existing cart, but I thought I would make my own from polyester that was a little smaller in diameter. Find directions and member videos on doing this yourself elsewhere on the forum. For now, you will need an empty cart.
Next, you need a very small diameter straw. I got some tiny cocktail straws from a liquor store, but many coffee stirrers will also work. See Picture 1, which also shows a red stirrer for comparison.
Select a straw, and slide it down into the empty cart until it touches the bottom, marking how far it goes down. Cut the straw with scissors a tiny bit (less than a millimeter) below this point so it is not quite as long as the cart is deep, and then cut the end at an angle as shown in Picture 2.
The rest of this takes some patience and fiddling around. Just go at it calmly and easily. If you get frustrated, get up and take a short break and come back and try again.
Get your stuffing and using your favorite tools (mine being the ubiquitous unfolded paperclip; oh how I love it!) slide the stuffing down over half of the way into the cart, and then push it to one side with the paperclip and slowly start sliding the straw, angle-cut end down, into the cartridge. Be sure to put it to one edge of the cart as in Picture 3 so it will not get in the way of the atomizer. You can see in the picture that the top of the straw has been dented in. This is intentional as described below.
Now finish by carefully manipulating and continuing to lower the stuffing and the straw until the straw is touching the bottom of the cart, with its top slightly below the top of the cart, once again to avoid the atomizer, and the stuffing is level at the top of the cart.
Now, using a tweezer or pushing with the paperclip, compress the top of the straw against the side of the cart, denting it in towards the side of the cart to even further minimize its proximity to the atomizer.
Finally, when placing the cart on the atomizer, look at the atomizer wick and make sure you line up the cartridge so that the straw is as distant from the atomizer as possible. I believe that we do not want it too close because of the possibility the atomizer could melt it.
With this mod in place, you should now be able to fill the cart with more drops of liquid by dripping into it than usual, and when vaping you should notice increased vapor production as well. Happy vaping!
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Ok thanks, I was thinking "why wouldn't a syringe work, but no I caught it
One more question; Does any buy after market material to put into the cart as a replacament to the original material, if so what is it?
thanks
One more question; Does any buy after market material to put into the cart as a replacament to the original material, if so what is it?
thanks
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Ok thanks, I was thinking "why wouldn't a syringe work, but no I caught it
One more question; Does any buy after market material to put into the cart as a replacament to the original material, if so what is it?
thanks
Captain, a syringe works fine, but this also improves airflow in the cartridge and creates more vapor. Plus you don't have to worry about accidently sticking yourself.
Many people use aftermarket materials to stuff their carts. It's super cheap, and if you do that, you basically won't ever have to buy a cart again until you physically break or wear out all of your existing carts.
Polyester filling or batting is quite common, Fluval (from pet store fish supplies) is another, and a hot one is Lipton Pyramid Nylon Teabags. "The guy in the fedora" has made a great video on using these. You have to buy a pack of tea that shows the little pyramid bag on the front, take them apart, and discard the tea (or steep it in a teaball or something if you don't want to waste it).
There are several threads on this with detailed instructions, look under Modders Forum/Cartridge Mods.
See for example, the thread http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/11394-replacing-cartridge-wool.html there are also videos of the process, and I have a 501-cart specific very detailed set of polyester filling instructions in the thread above, specifically the post is at this link: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ing-cartridge-wool-post497112.html#post497112
Hope this helps!
Hey..I got an idea. Your in TX and I know you got a feed store somewhere I hope. Go in a get a syringe they use to draw blood from livestock. Im not sure the size numbers but I know Ive seen them just as big around as your pic shows your straw to be and I know they are longer. Its gross but I know this because I had to drain a strange lump on my fiances knee and I didnt know where else to go cause I needed a large diameter needle. Maybe that would work? Also, the needle is already cut with a very angled cut on the end just like your straw.
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Thanks for the feedback! I almost think you are partly trolling or kidding around, with the comment about draining a boil in your fiance's leg
No Docs in your leg of the woods, CrazyT? But seriously, I appreciate your suggestion.Anyway, while I don't live in Texas (I live in rural Southern Illinois) the absolute middle of nowhere. You may be thinking of some other member. Not as many cows as horses hereabouts, but there is some livestock, and there are Southern FS and Rural King stores all over the place here. I'll be on the lookout for what you describe. But I really haven't had any problems with any of the straws looking like they were melting or deforming, I'm just being very cautious since the wick of an atty is a delicate thing, and easily gunked up. And of course, no one wants to be inhaling fumes from melted plastic.
I've read elsewhere in the forum that a metal straw may possibly be a good idea, and even that, if touching the atty, it might do heat transfer down the entire cartridge and produce even more vapor. But I have no personal experience with that.
After using the mod for a while, I notice the cartridge empties much more quickly when it has the straw mod. In retrospect, it makes sense - more vapor per inhale means more eLiquid being used. So if you use the straw mod, expect to carry more cartridges with you for the same amount of vaping.
Thanks!
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