carto tank fits

[Dzaw]

OK - I've been lurking about and reading, watching reviews, etc since I took my first vape about three months ago. I've learned a lot,and generally enjoyed taking these first steps on this journey.

I've done a lot of searching, and found a lot of references to the problems I'm having, but no real solutions.

I love love LOVE the concept of a tank that locks onto the carto, like the smoketech UDCT/Artemas. It's just a killer idea all around. Not to mention, it looks just smexy as all get out in gunmetal sitting on my gunmetal vamo.

However, I can't get a crto to work worth a damn in the bloody thing!

So far I've tried the smoketech DCT cartos, both original and CE2 style, in single and dual coil, in a cross section of resistances.

These things are either flooding, or burning my throat and lungs by failing to wick. There IS NOT IN BETWEEN.

Is there a solution? Do the flanged Boge F16 cartos work any better than the smoketech crap?

 

[Dzaw]

btt for anyone's wisdom?

 

[Scottinboca]

I have been doing the rebuildable(RBA) thing, but I think there's the CE3 or CE4 bottom coil that's getting good reviews.

 

[gjshaw29]

Not sure, but knowing the type of juice you're using would help someone figure it out. What ratio of pg/vg is your juice? Are you buying the cartos prepunched? How many hole are there in the cartos? I find one prepunched smoktech 1.5 ohm dual coil carto works well for me.

 

[Dzaw]

Cartos I've tried (all prepunched)

Smoketech 1.5 ohm dc single hole
Smoketech 1.5 ohm dc dual hole
Smoketech 1.7 ohm sc dual hole
Smoketech 1.5 ohm dc CE2 dual hole
Smoketech 2.0 ohm dc CE2 dual hole
Smoketech 1.7 ohm sc CE2 dual hole


What I'm looking for is SOME iteration of an XL length carto with a flange to lock into my tank that doesn't FLOOD or DRY HIT with no in between!

Anyone know if the boge f16 flanged carto performs more reliably?

 

[Kable]

I'm guessing the single holes give the dry hit and the two holes causes flooding. If that's the case, you could get a punch tool and open up the single holes a little wider. Or, you could use heavier vg juice with the dual holes, or lighter vg juice with the single holes. With the dry hits, how long are you letting the juice soak in before using them? Also, if you draw hard without firing your device, you can suck more juice into the cart to keep it wet.

 

[Kable]

You could also get a locking tank that doesn't require flanged cartos, like this one: AGR Carto Tank

Unfortunately, it's not in gun metal. The diameter matches the vamo almost perfectly, though. It basically uses a 510 to 510 adapter to lock the cart to the bottom of the tank, and the adapter is hidden by the kilt (as they call it).

 

[Dzaw]

actually it doesn't seem to make a difference, whichever carto, or thickness of juice (tried 100% pg, 80/20, 70/30, 60/40 and 100%vg). If I don't take a hard 'primer puff' before EVERY drag, the CE2's burn hot and dry (even down at 6.5 watts). When I do take a hard 'primer puff' I can get one good satisfying vape off of the CE2's. before they behave just like the traditional cartos.

All of the various iterations of the standard filler cartos flood and leak all over my device. The CE2's do the same after one good vape, after a primer.

I can ususally blow them out, then get 1 or 2 good puffs, then it's back to flood ville.

 

[Kable]

Hmm, your issue is perplexing indeed. All I can tell you is what works for me. I use these pre-punched carts in my tanks, and they work well with all my juices:
ElectronicStix.Com · Single Boge 510 Blank Laser Punched Cartomizer For Tank Systems

Most of my juices are 50/50, some 66/33, 20/80, or all vg.

 

[SirSteve]

Sorry to hear about your bad luck as I am waiting on a DCT. Just for fun I made one of the syringe tanks last week, I used a Boge 510 single coil XL 2 ohm that I slotted with a dremel style tool, darn thing works great, but those carto's have no bottom flange. With any luck someone can help, might prevent me from having the same problem.

 

[Dzaw]

Yeah, it seems so far that the flangd cartos aren't worth a damn.

I was really hoping someone would be able to come along and say "Yeah, the boge F16's are as good as any non flanged boge" and be honest while they did so...

'cause I'm pretty sure I won't be wasting any more coin on smoketech cartos.

 

[Ansah]

I've been using carto tanks for a couple of weeks, and have had a few problems, but found that I just needed to fiddle with it until finding the system that worked. I've had very good luck with this Cartomizer Punch and this Triple V Pyrex 4ml Premium Tank, but I ruined a couple of cartos before getting a "feel" for exactly where and how big to punch the holes.

Using this setup with standard Boge 2.0. If you think about it, either too dry or flooding cannot be the fault of the tank, for the tank is just the container surrounding the carto. It has to be that your holes/slots are either too big (flooding), or not big enough (dry burn), though once you burn the carto AFAIK there's no fixing it. It's just a question of finding the sweet spot. Good luck.

 

[Kable]

I was really hoping someone would be able to come along and say "Yeah, the boge F16's are as good as any non flanged boge" and be honest while they did so...

For all I know, they may very well be. I've just never tried them, so I couldn't tell you.

 

[Baditude]

Your problem is perplexing. Although I have not used that particular tank setup, I have used the Smoktek cartos (with the flange) on most of my other tanks. Not that it matters, but I have gotten my cartos from this vendor: 510 Tank Cartomizers I'm not promoting this vendor, I only provide the link to confirm that I've probably used the same cartos that you have. I order the single coil 3.0 ohm in one- and two-holed laser-drilled. This vendor's current selection is currently sparse, it is usually well-stocked.

I've used the one hole for typical 50/50 pg/vg juices. Two holes for any juice with more than 50% vg. I've not had any issues with dry hits or flooding. I prime my cartos before inserting them into the tank, using a wooden toothpick in the center airhole. I also use the Slap-Yo-Momma tank accessory tool by Big Daddy Vapors ( A PBusardo Review - Slap Yo Mama Multi-Purpose Adapter - Big Daddy Vapor - YouTube ) when assembling and filling/refilling my tanks. I use the same methodology as in the following video.

The only other advice I can come up with concerning your issues, is possibly how I vape on a cartotank. I tend to do slow steady pulls of about 5 seconds duration. I've developed a sense of how well a carto is wicking and sometimes do the primer puff without power to encourage a slower wicking juice into the carto (Boba's Bounty comes to mind).

There IS a learning curve involved with cartotanks, and most of us vet cartotank users have had our ups and downs until we finally got the knack for it. I hope your current experience doesn't turn you off from them, as they are what I use 100% of the time now.

 

[r77r7r]

I've tried SM1.7 3 times since I've been vaping and Always ended up with dry hits. I'm done. I'm on the forum frequently and have only seen good reviews for the 1.6's. They're kind of new tho.

 

[Dzaw]

IF I primer puff HARD but SHORT, I can get my CE2 to vape pretty good for 2 puffs. Then it wants to gurgle a lot. I find that I get my best VTF when it's gurgling, but I can't stand the gurgle, just knowing that there's juice pooling in the battery connection... Grrr...

I'll get 3 or 4 more good vapes on a flooded, gurgling CE2 before it floods hard enough that I can't vape it without taking a sip.

Then it's time to take the tank off, dry everything out, and start over with 1 more good vape before I get a hot dry hit.

I think I'm going to give the F16's a shot next time I place an order. If they don't prove to be a major improvement, my tanks are headed for the interior of my forge. Not that I think I'd be able to make enything useful out of them, but it's my favorite way to destry small pieces of personal property that piss me off.

 

[Baditude]

I'm starting to wonder if the issue is the tank itself. You've tried different cartomizers, even different TYPES of cartomizers, with the same results. So I don't believe the issue is with the carto's themselves, unless you are somehow not filling them properly (although it seems like you are).

Before totally giving up on cartotanks, you might want to consider a cheap Smoktech DCT like the tried and true: Pro DCTank Tube

You've already got the carto's to go in this. Getting this would confirm if its the tank that is causing your issues.

 

[Dzaw]

Funny you should mention that 'tude...

I got the UDCT hoping to fix this problem from my previous smoketech dct.

I'm sure there's a learning curve involved, and maybe I'm too demanding a person, but I would think I'd be able to find ONE carto that both has a flange AND works well!

I've used cartos not in tanks successfully. I fill them for my wife all the time (boge 1.5 for her joye 510 batts) and screw one on my twist now and again when I just want a quick puff or two.

I really loved the idea of being able to fill two tanks and not have to fidget with these things for a day - but that doesn't look like it'll be reality for me at the time being. Maybe if the F16's turn out to be more reliable.

So it's the vivinovas and eternity for me until then.

 

[Taniger1]

Herm, I use a Phiniac tank with regular boges (Sometimes I use LR but I have a Provari so it doesn't really matter) /shrug. I use a pretty thick and dark juice that I make myself. I found in the early times that I wasn't priming the carto's BEFORE I put them into the tank well enough. When I figured THAT out, it made life a hellva lot easier. Sometimes it's the little things. Are you priming your carto's BEFORE you tank them?

I use 3 holes in my caryto's, I do a 3 and 1/2 spin on my carto punch, and unless I run into a bad carto (happens occasionally) I dont' seem to have any problems. Sometimes I find I have to re-prime the carto in mid tank. Pain in the tuckous but it works!

Priming your carto's will make life and vape much easier.

 

[patthib]

I am puzzled as well! I use smokteck prepunched carto's all the time and don't think I have had an issue with maybe 3 in the past 9 months! Maybe you just aren't getting a good air flow, so while vaping you are actually drawing the liquid up rather than the vapor. This is the only thing else I can come up with that hasn't been covered or tried by you already.

Wish I had more help!