Carto Tank Questions

[BabsSeed]

So, a bit of a newbie question. I have a couple X8 carto tanks, but I want to move on to something of a higher quality. The IBTanked ones seem nice, but I do have one concern.

The X8 tanks have a screw on the side of the tank, at the bottom, which secures the carto to the tank. This makes it pretty easy to remove the carto and tank as one unit. Other tanks don't seem to have this, though, so I'm wondering how I'd swap these tanks. Would it be as easy as swapping the X8 tanks?

I've also seen ones that have an extra piece that screws into the bottom of the carto. I like this idea, because it reminds me of the sealed 510 on my Aerotank, which is a feature I've become admittedly spoiled by. However, I don't know which models/brands offer this. I'm hoping that you guys could throw out a few suggestions for me to look at outside of IBTanked. (With or without that bottom piece.)

 

[serenity21899]

Had to look up the X8 because I had never seen one before. I have always used IBTanked. But I think using a flanged carto would do the same thing. Here's a blog on carto tanks:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-5-baditudes-cartomizer-tank-setup-guide.html

 

[Shootist]

Maybe you should move on to Clearomzers, Tank & head in one package?

Carto tanks are just about dead. There are better devices available these days.

 

[Tangaroav]

I use an xl Ibtanked and with a flanged carto ii is great. With an un-flanged carto it is a disaster, (spill of e-liquid), waiting to happen.

 

[serenity21899]

There is nothing wrong with using carto tanks. The cool part about vaping is the wide variety of devices and toppers. Everyone is different and I think telling someone what they are using is not good enough is irresponsible.

 

[Shootist]

There is nothing wrong with using carto tanks. The cool part about vaping is the wide variety of devices and toppers. Everyone is different and I think telling someone what they are using is not good enough is irresponsible.

Not sure who you are replying to but if it is me then no where in my post do I say a carto tank is NO GOOD. I said there are better devices available, or maybe you can't read.

Please enlighten all of us and post some links to companies coming out with new updated carto tanks.

Sure they are still available at "SOME" vape shops but most have stopped carrying them. Why? Because there are better devices available today.

Does that mean the OP should stop using the carto's and carto tank he has or even buying new ones? NO.

I was just pointing out other options.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

I use Phiniac carto tanks, never had a carto slip or pull through once using unflanged carto's.
The o rings grip the carto very securely without the need for a lock ring or set screw.

IMO & IME there isn't a clearo that comes close to the ease of use, flavor & vapor production, leak/flood/gurgle free performance of a good carto tank set up. Some folks have to experiment with the number or size of holes and carto brand to get the results they want.
A fully saturated carto inside a tank has umpteen times more coil to wicking material contact surface area than the tiny pieces of wick in a clearo head.

 

[r77r7r]

They've come out with all the locking systems because some of the production tanks (smoktech) were Super loose.

Tanks like IBT, Phiniac, and such aftermarket are made much better.

Carto-tanks are Very popular, but you don't see as many posts on forums about them because they Simply Work.

Clearo posts are more frequent because of all the problems and because they've been forever coming out with new ones that are Supposed to work well.

 

[Tangaroav]

The 10ml capacity of the xl Ibtank makes it a very attractive choice although it requires, (IMO), a flanged carto. I use mine with my 26650 vaporizers and I am very satisfied.

For easier filling of the tank there is always the Crazy vape unit. I do not think they offer a 10ml volume, (only 4.5ml). The easy side valve filling removes the risks of unseating the carto or the covers while filling up.

 

[DPLongo22]

Another huge supporter of carto tanks. The clearos don't do it for me, and I've neither the time nor interest to build stuff. As r7... said, they simply work.

The three pictured here all offer tight fits (no slippage) without flanged cartos. Left to right are:

Create-a-Tank (Ikenvape)
IBTanked
F(something or other (Madvapes)

 

[oplholik]

I use carto/tanks on 7 of my 14 mods, and they work great. I "punch" my own cartos, and use the flangeless ones, as I don't feel the need to pay xtra for the flanged, and punched ones. There are several good brands of tanks out there, but I prefer the IBT tanks for the quality and price.
I believe the reason that you don't see cartos in the B&M's so much is that they do push the rda's, and rba's more for the cloud chasers. That is the way it seems to me at least.
I do use a couple clearos, and as far as being easier to use, I don't think that they are so much easier. I have had a carto slip on me while filling the tank and dumping some liquid I admit, but it's because I just wasn't paying attention. Long live cartos and tanks!

 

[BabsSeed]

Thanks for the input. Serenity, I've already read Baditude's blog on cartotanks. (I've actually read all his blogs.) It's a great read, and it tought me plenty about cartos, but I'm really just wondering how I'd swap the tanks withouth the screw that the X8 provides.

DPLongo, thanks for the picture! I will check out those other tanks as well. It's good to know that they work with the non-flanged cartos, as I just put in an an order for four packs of Boge standard LR cartos.

Shootist, I do actually use clearos as well. Not right now, though, as I totally broke and mangled my AeroTank base the other day. (Replacements already on the way.)

 

[Baditude]

Maybe you should move on to Clearomzers, Tank & head in one package?

Carto tanks are just about dead. There are better devices available these days.

Get out of here! A quality cartotank will blow any clearomizer out of the ballpark with better flavor and more consistancy.

The majority of vapers move on from clearomizers to cartotanks, not the other way around.

 

[Baditude]

Thanks for the input. Serenity, I've already read Baditude's blog on cartotanks. (I've actually read all his blogs.) It's a great read, and it tought me plenty about cartos, but I'm really just wondering how I'd swap the tanks withouth the screw that the X8 provides.

You don't need a screw to swap tanks. The carto (inside the cartotank) has the 510 connector pin to screw into your battery device. Simply unscrew the entire tank from your battery device to switch tanks.



I'm assuming the screw that you are talking about helps prevent the tank from sliding off of the cartomizer when its on your battery device. If you use a higher quality cartotank, it's o-rings will hold onto the carto so that it won't slide off unintentionally. The screw is only necessary for the cheap tanks with poor quality o-rings.

Once a carto is in a tank, you are pretty much committed to use the same flavor in that cartomizer. Most people use multiple, separate tanks to use different flavors.

I highly recommend getting a cartotank tool to assist you in switching cartos out from the tank, make juice refills easier, and to protect the tanks o-rings from damage when you switch out cartos. There's a PBusardo video in my cartotank setup guide which shows how to use this tool. You can get this tool from IBTanked, Big Daddy Vapor, and Avid Vapors.

cartotank refill tools

 

[PinkPanter]

To use VG for the O-rings, the carto glides better, but once the VG dried, the carto is like stuck to the O-rings.

I have a Phiniac tank btw.

 

[BabsSeed]

You don't need a screw to swap tanks. The carto (inside the cartotank) has the 510 connection to your battery device. Simply unscrew the entire tank from your battery device to switch tanks.

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I'm assuming the screw that you are talking about helps prevent the tank from sliding off of the cartomizer when its on your battery device. If you use a quality cartotank, it's o-rings will hold onto the carto so that it won't slide off unintentionally.

I guess I just don't understand because I don't have one of these tanks in front of me. When I attempt to unscrew the X8 tank without the thumbscrew attached to the carto, the tank simply spins around the carto.

Could it simply be that a better tank would fasten itself more tightly to the carto, allowing me to do swap tanks without the screw?

Er, side note. I can see that you actually answered that question, but I can't see any text after your attachment in the post. I can only see it in my reply when I reply with quote. Could that be a forum bug?

 

[BabsSeed]

To use VG for the O-rings, the carto glides better, but once the VG dried, the carto is like stuck to the O-rings.

I have a Phiniac tank btw.

Thank you for recommending the Phiniac! I am looking at their site now and they seem very nice.

 

[Ed_C]

IBTanked carto tanks work great and preform much better than the clearos I've used. The tank is held in place by the flange on the bottom and the dip tip at top. There's not need for any screws. Flangeless cartos work as well. You just need to be a bit more careful when you fill them. I do think they are getting less popular as newbies "think" clearos are easier and more advanced vapers usually jump to rebuildables. But if you're looking for a good vape and don't want to build your own coils, carto tanks are hard to beat.

 

[PinkPanter]

Thank you for recommending the Phiniac! I am looking at their site now and they seem very nice.

Not only outstanding pretty but look the review...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBagCO_Jit8

 

[3mg Meniere]

https://www.fasttech.com/product/1476400
https://www.fasttech.com/product/1559302
https://www.fasttech.com/product/1604501

I have these three items on my wishlist at fastech. The locking rings are great, and I have never tried anything else. The driptips are great, too. Once you remove the locking ring, and use the driptip to push the carto partway down, they provide a space through which you can refill the tank. They protect your mouth from spatters of hot juice. They also can be slid through the tank to replace the carto without spilling juice. Wickedly long, and a great conversation-starter.

I store my unused cartos in unflavored juice, so they are primed already.