Carto Technical Tips Trials

[Baditude]

I might not be the right person to ask, since you enjoy dripping so much. I never got the hang of it myself when I first started out, and never gave it another chance.

I went VERY quickly from pre-filled cartomizers (Smokeless Image) to filling my own cartos. About a month later I had advanced to replaceable, rechargeable battery mods (Silver Bullet and BB from Altsmoke). I went with pyrex cartotanks, and couldn't be happier with the flavor production.

A tank keeps the carto's polyfill wet so there is no dry hits or burning, as long as you have the correct resistance cartomizer with the battery voltage you are using. There is a slight learning curve with cartotanks, but the convenenience of an all day juice delivery device and the flavor is nearly unbeatable in my opinion.

I'm about to experience my first rebuildable atty (rba) which many say is the ultimate in flavor, throat hit, and vapor.

My Silver Bullet & BB mods and pyrex cartotanks.

 

[Baditude]

thanks so what would you recommend for best flavor? Something that has As a tank system and that is small?

And if I can pick your brain I like the flavor of driping and not too fond on any Juices so far from using Carto's and Duel tube tank Carto . Already looking into getting new equipment , Any suggestions I am open ?

You can put a smaller cartotank on an eGo battery, like the below DCT tank on an eGo Twist.

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If you are not ready to get into mods that use replaceable, rechargeable batteries, I think the following setup is nice:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/369128-what-kit-start-3.html#post8309522

You can always put a smaller cartotank on those Twists or Spinners instead of the T3 or mini vivi novas like in the above pic.

 

[KENNY V]

You can put a smaller cartotank on an eGo battery, like the below DCT tank on an eGo Twist.

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If you are not ready to get into mods that use replaceable, rechargeable batteries, I think the following setup is nice:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/369128-what-kit-start-3.html#post8309522

You can always put a smaller cartotank on those Twists or Spinners instead of the T3 or mini vivi novas like in the above pic.

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you said before in a early post you don't like wick devices for flavor maybe im misunderstanding but doesn't both the Kanger T3 and Mini Vivvi Clearomizer have wicks.

And if they do like Dauh dum Q (bare with me im a newb,)
Is their such thing as a wickless

Other than clearo and or carto (filler material) ) that has and Ato system that also has a tank?
Or some how an Ato system PV device with Juice that is gravity fed or something similar ??

thanks
Sorry if that sounds dum but I have it in my mind that an Ego T does something like that that ?
I am very interested in this model if so and have not yet found a good description on its delivery system in how the juice gets delivered to the Ato

Links and or description welcome

 

[Baditude]

I got to tell you that the eGo T tank system is considered to be pretty archaic in this day and age. Not many people enjoy using them. There are better juice feeding devices available.

The more that I read your posts, the more I think you might just like getting a box bottom-feeder mod. You manually feed your atomizer by squeezing a plastic juice bottle. It's like dripping on an atty, but because of the system you can drip continuously without a break.

I'll include a couple of demo videos that explain how they work. I don't have one but a couple of ECF friends consider these to be among their favorite vaping devices. These come either in simple mechanical mod for fixed voltage, or variable voltage.

REO GRAND Review and First Impressions - YouTube

Battle of the Feeder Mods, Part 1 - YouTube

 

[markfm]

The VV Grand VVG is indeed an awesome PV, I've had one since they came out. They really kick in if you have an all day vape, something where you are content to use the same eliquid, where that 6 ml feed bottle makes them easy to use. Of course you can swap other cartos onto it, just not using the feeder, if you want to change up for a bit. Standard cartos can also be used with the feeder, sometimes they are easier to use, simpler to master feeding them properly (the carto body will wick up a bit of excess eliquid during a feed).

Another good bottom feeder source is redskymods (RSM). Capt. Brian does beautiful woodwork. I had a non-VV unit, liked it a lot, though I ended up passing it along since I'm a VV person (like the higher power and consistency of a well regulated VV). RSM does have VV available, too.

I went for the VVG because I know the VV portion of it (same as notcigs has in their buzz pro tube pv), and like a metal PV. The buzz pro still comes out for times working with power tools, where I still want quality VV but don't want a box form factor.

 

[KENNY V]

Nano 510 Clearomizer
any one have experince with the Nano 510 Clearomizer
how does it fair compare to standard 2 ohm Carto's on a 3.7 V bat source?

taste how is the vape and mostly How does the juice taste

What is is its Ohm ratiing ?couldit be used with a 3.7V device ?

Can it beused with VV battery supply up to 4.8 v ?



Ps why can i no longer START a new topic thread




thanks

kv

 

[The Ocelot]

Nano 510 Clearomizer
any one have experince with the Nano 510 Clearomizer

I just got a Nano tonight - cute little thing. It's very slim and appears specifically designed to work on a cig-a-like battery. It worked fine on my eGo, but looked silly. The one I got was a 1.8 ohms, but I believe it is available in higher resistances.

...how does it fair compare to standard 2 ohm Carto's on a 3.7 V bat source?

How does an apple taste compared to an orange?

...taste how is the vape and mostly How does the juice taste

So far, I am quite impressed. I got good taste and vapor production on both an automatic cig-a-like and a Twist.

What is is its Ohm ratiing ?couldit be used with a 3.7V device ?

The one I got is 1.8 ohms. It would be fine at 3.7v.

Can it beused with VV battery supply up to 4.8 v ?

It can be screwed onto any 510 threaded battery, including VV. The performance would depend on what you set the voltage at.

...Ps why can i no longer START a new topic thread

After 70 posts you can no longer start threads in the "New Members Forum." You have to post in other forums.

 

[KENNY V]

I just got a Nano tonight - cute little thing. It's very slim and appears specifically designed to work on a cig-a-like battery. It worked fine on my eGo, but looked silly. The one I got was a 1.8 ohms, but I believe it is available in higher resistances.



How does an apple taste compared to an orange?



So far, I am quite impressed. I got good taste and vapor production on both an automatic cig-a-like and a Twist.



The one I got is 1.8 ohms. It would be fine at 3.7v.



It can be screwed onto any 510 threaded battery, including VV. The performance would depend on what you set the voltage at.



After 70 posts you can no longer start threads in the "New Members Forum." You have to post in other forums.

what I meant is compared as flavor like after taste as you get in carto's ect,..
from reading posts I suspect some folks don't mind carto's well im not happy so far with anyone I have tried unless it is freshly filled (so far that is my experience so I prefer to drip)

I guess besides taste dif B/T the two carto's do you know what is wrapped around coil ?

Does anyone know is this New nanno 510 carto all together dif or has a poly fill the same as a 510 carto ?

And while I have ya do you know how many volts you can push with a 1.7 ohm 2.0 Ohm cartos
without frying them?

thanks

 

[KENNY V]

Guess ill have to just try em out when i get eme



how bouts Break in Carto's n Atto's
do you guys juice them up and start vapping right out of the package
or do you break them and if so how long wut ya do ?

changing juices
If you are changing juices while dripping Carto's

what are some ways to clean them out between flavors ?
I been using VG and puff out flavor before the switch been workin ok but capachino's a bit dominant

TIA
Vape on Man ....

 

[KENNY V]

I just got a Nano tonight - cute little thing. It's very slim and appears specifically designed to work on a cig-a-like battery. It worked fine on my eGo, but looked silly. The one I got was a 1.8 ohms, but I believe it is available in higher resistances.



How does an apple taste compared to an orange?



So far, I am quite impressed. I got good taste and vapor production on both an automatic cig-a-like and a Twist.



The one I got is 1.8 ohms. It would be fine at 3.7v.



It can be screwed onto any 510 threaded battery, including VV. The performance would depend on what you set the voltage at.



After 70 posts you can no longer start threads in the "New Members Forum." You have to post in other forums.

Anyone try these new Nano 510's clearo's
AltSmoke.com | Personal Vaporizers | Electronic Cigarette | Ecigs | Nano Clearomizer - 510 Thread

ok Well last night night Mr mailman brought a bunch of new goodies all kinds and sizes of Cardo's LR and now HR to try out my with my new VV battery Yea!!! I got an Ego spinner
and only bought one of these new clearop, cuz want sure id like it.

I tried this new Nano 510 it aint bad now but last night it crapped out . It didn't start up well either .No instructions. What do u guys do to break in a cardo clearo like this one? I suspect it has a poly fill or somewhat whick by its flavor but it dont say whats inside
The problem is it holds better juice than carto but the burn is still a bit harsh even at LR volt range?
Anyone have any experience with these .?
Does anyone know the recommended volt range to use with these NEW 510 nano clearo,Bc the website does not list the ratting?
Also is there a trick to priming plese share. Last night worked ok then crapped out Today its ok but not sure if this its flavor is still off. Maybe the first burn was too hot may have over heated the wraparound the coil.
What ya think?
Ps I only bought one bc I did not want something I did not like wasting my juice till I know it works good so ill have to vape it out till I refill with another base
TIA
vape on mon...

 

[r77r7r]

Kenny- why don't you try using youtube for using your equipment. Maybe a live demo would be a good learning technique for you.

 

[yzer]

If it helps: my experience with 510 single coil cartos at 3.7 V, without carto tanks. When I talk about drops I'm talking drops from a 30 ml plastic dropper bottle.

-Shorty cartos hold very little liquid. As another mentioned the capacity is only about 15 drops. These are ideal for something like tasting new juices. They must be kept topped off constantly to prevent burning.

-XL cartos. The XL size is 9 mm in diameter and the length is 45 mm. When discussing carto length measurement the 5 mm length of the 510 connector base is not included.

510 XL carto measurements (Smoktech shown):

-XL carto capacity: 1.8 ml for the Smoktech or anywhere from 50 to 70 drops when filled the first time. The capacity of each carto will be different but the average is about 60 drops.

-Carto resistance: for 3.7V I use either 1.7 ohm or 2.0 ohm. These are considered LR (low resistance) cartos. I like both but prefer the 2.0 ohm for a reason I'll give later.

-Carto lifespan: Depends on juice. A heavily flavored juice may kill a carto faster. I use unflavored DIY juice. I can use a carto longer than two weeks without burning but prefer to change them out after 7 days for maximum flavor. Yes, unflavored juice has a flavor.

-Burning cartos. A lot of carto users never get this right. The carto will burn if too much liquid is vaped out of the filler. The liquid also serves as a coolant for the carto. How much you can safely vape without burning a carto depends on the voltage you use, the resistance of the carto and the fluid capacity of the carto. For the 2.0 ohm XL cartos at 3.7V I can safely vape off nearly half of the liquid before refilling. At my vaping rate of slightly more than 2 ml per day that means I can use a 2.0 ohm carto for three hours before I must top it off with anywhere from 15 to 22 drops of juice. For the hotter burning 1.7 ohm XL I must top off the carto three times as often, rarely adding more than 10 drops. For this reason I would prefer to use 1.7 ohm with a carto tank. With a tank the carto is always kept sufficiently filled. So, for vaping a carto without a tank at 3.7V I prefer 2.0 ohm XL.

-Personal preference. That's what it's all about at this stage of the vaping game. You have lots of choices: dripping to an atty, cartos, clearos, tanks, genesis etc., etc. I like cartos for their simplicity, small size, reliability and consistent performance. And... they never leak.

 

[KENNY V]

Kenny- why don't you try using youtube for using your equipment. Maybe a live demo would be a good learning technique for you.

Yup … I do that but getting reference and practical working experience is good tool to match problems and troubleshooting .

Sure, but learned most w/ trial and error, but better refined when Q's get answered. As the application is discussed with further details. Sure consumer reports is good but asking a mechanic about make model and problem is another valuable resouce as he is always troubleshooting and see this kind of stuff more often.
This clearo is new and I have not saw much discussed if ya have links please share them .

Im refereing to
Anyone try these new Nano 510's clearo's
AltSmoke.com | Personal Vaporizers | Electronic Cigarette | Ecigs | Nano Clearomizer - 510 Thread

what is your experience so far
and at what voltage have you used it at ?

Do you know the ohm Rating ? ( I cant find this info on website??? )

And what is the highest voltage setting because I have found even at 3.7 its still a bit harsh. Believe it or not I tried eeven lower 3.3V and still not smooth compared to using HR Cardo @ 4.1V

is this a dud , I killed it with burn in or I am expecting too much performance from a mini Clearo??? ?

Do you guys know Is there a trick to priming or breaking in? Last night worked ok then crapped out Today its ok but not sure if this its flavor is still off. Maybe the first burn was too hot. sad thing i really like. its design but only got one to try...... = (
( u know how that is may be a dud)

.last Q. this is bottom type feeder. is there still a polly fill. around the coil?
Thanks Guys Vape on


Thnaks

 

[KENNY V]

Now thats what im talking about thanks u are talking shop now

yea mon I learned much of this ( the hard way ) in but a few days love to explore the Burt taste / breaking in techniques, topic and discerning when its too late ( burned filler ect)

-Burning cartos. A lot of carto users never get this right. The carto will burn if too much liquid is vaped out of the filler. The liquid also serves as a coolant for the carto. How much you can safely vape without burning a carto depends on the voltage you use, the resistance of the carto and the fluid capacity of the carto

Great detailed description and I fig that from day one . Would love to go into detailed/ preventing this from happening with a more experienced user ..However email's are not my gift as you see
thanks bro

it seems im not gona be a big Cardo fan .. cuz for me they leak from trying to keep em juiced up too much. Or I got to fill em.... .. my ATTY's are doing that too . However If I keep em clean they are better on the first few vapes. But to me thats wasting juice blowing out all my Magic juice to get a good next vape.

I still have a quest to get my 1.5 ohm duel coil tube tank dialed in cuz I put it down when I needed to try many Juices ( right now I cant afford to waste any Juice either ) ….. Besides found Carto's gave me a better hit and dripping was better yet .

Ohh Btw just got a new spinner VV bat so if you know what is a good voltage to start with (1.5 Ohm duel coil for tube tank) id appreciate that cuz soon after I get more special magic juiceId ike to give it a try again

thanks

 

[sawlight]

Try that dual coil around 4.5v, it should be a little warm there depending on how it feeds.

 

[yzer]

I learned how to avoid burning a carto by trial and error. The taste of a burned carto is unmistakable. Once a carto is burned, toss it. It will never taste right again. I like 3.7 V regulated and I like an ego-sized or slightly larger APV because I want something that travels with me in my pocket. 3.7V will provide vapor in the 6-8 watt range, which is what I like. I choose the wattage by selecting a carto with a specific resistance. Wattage can also be determined by changing the voltage on a VV (variable voltage) APV and using a device of the same resistance. But, VV has it's cost. The larger size required for the additional electronics for VV or VW (variable wattage) means a larger sized APV or a compromise with a smaller battery with less capacity.

This is one of the several vaping power/resistance charts I've run across here on ECF.

 

[yzer]

Here is another chart. Both of these charts are for single coil. I don't use dual coil anymore on 3.7 V. Single coil will provide better vapor with less power drain at 3.7 V.

 

[sawlight]

But that chart isn't effective with dual coil carto's, that's just for single coil carto's.
An easier method is to take the resistance and add 2 to get a good starting voltage, This will always keep you right around 8watts, what most prefer, and it's a lot easier to remember. But again, that doesn't work with dual coil carto's!

 

[yzer]

But that chart isn't effective with dual coil carto's, that's just for single coil carto's.
An easier method is to take the resistance and add 2 to get a good starting voltage, This will always keep you right around 8watts, what most prefer, and it's a lot easier to remember. But again, that doesn't work with dual coil carto's!

Yep, corrected.

 

[r77r7r]

Now thats what im talking about thanks u are talking shop now

yea mon I learned much of this ( the hard way ) in but a few days love to explore the Burt taste / breaking in techniques, topic and discerning when its too late ( burned filler ect)
Great detailed description and I fig that from day one . Would love to go into detailed/ preventing this from happening with a more experienced user ..However email's are not my gift as you see
thanks bro

it seems im not gona be a big Cardo fan .. cuz for me they leak from trying to keep em juiced up too much. Or I got to fill em.... .. my ATTY's are doing that too . However If I keep em clean they are better on the first few vapes. But to me thats wasting juice blowing out all my Magic juice to get a good next vape.

I still have a quest to get my 1.5 ohm duel coil tube tank dialed in cuz I put it down when I needed to try many Juices ( right now I cant afford to waste any Juice either ) ….. Besides found Carto's gave me a better hit and dripping was better yet .

Ohh Btw just got a new spinner VV bat so if you know what is a good voltage to start with (1.5 Ohm duel coil for tube tank) id appreciate that cuz soon after I get more special magic juiceId ike to give it a try again

thanks

Sometimes it's just the set-up or carto Brand. I tried several times to get a certain Brand to work and even when I flooded it, I would get dry hits/burnt soon after. So maybe try another brand? Several good ones out there.

If you're vaping Calmly, you shouldn't be in Fear of a burnt hit- most attys and cartos will give you a few Dry hits prior to burnt.