CARTOMATOR cartomizer Tank System NOW IN STOCK!!!!

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Odd. Check your O-rings next time you have it empty (outer and inner). Maybe one of them is not making a good seal, letting air into the tank and creating too much of a siphon effect

Thanks KJ....I checked the seals and they seem fine so I just changed out the carto for one of my own and it tastes and works better. I think some of these early DC and TC cartos had questionable filler that wasn't as absorbent as it could be.
 

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Hey Drew - any idea when more of these bad boys will be available on-site (non-stainless versions)? Bought a couple of them and absolutely love them but now I want two more (blue and green) but my site stalking makes me kinda feel like I'm looking over a novelist's shoulder waiting to have the latest book in a series finished :)
 

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I think some of these early DC and TC cartos had questionable filler that wasn't as absorbent as it could be.

You're probably right. I've got quite an assortment of duallies and some definitely wick and retain juice better than others. Heck, I've even got more cartos of multiple types in the mail as we speak :facepalm: At least I'll have plenty of variety in my choices :p

Believe it or not, I'd never actually tried a Boge cartomizer until the one that came with my mini cartomator. I like it quite a bit and now understand the fanaticism surrounding them, but the filler's starting to get a little tired and the last juice I ran through it has a tendency to leave coil gunk, so I've got more of those on the way. Also looking forward to trying one of those bottom coil 808's, both in a tank and by itself

Eh, I'm rambling now . . . need a beer . . .
 

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Just a quick update:
I had planned on having Delrin and SS Cartomators to Nhaler by now but it will be a few more days. My one employee has been out sick and it put me way behind, but rest assured there will be a full shipment of both by the start of the week. There will now be Brushed Stainless in addition to the Polished SS.
Also, we should have SS and Delrin Cartomators at Vapercon at a special price through Nhaler for those attending.
 
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You're probably right. I've got quite an assortment of duallies and some definitely wick and retain juice better than others. Heck, I've even got more cartos of multiple types in the mail as we speak :facepalm: At least I'll have plenty of variety in my choices :p

Believe it or not, I'd never actually tried a Boge cartomizer until the one that came with my mini cartomator. I like it quite a bit and now understand the fanaticism surrounding them, but the filler's starting to get a little tired and the last juice I ran through it has a tendency to leave coil gunk, so I've got more of those on the way. Also looking forward to trying one of those bottom coil 808's, both in a tank and by itself

Eh, I'm rambling now . . . need a beer . . .
Yeah both regular and LR Boge's are under rated and cheap. I just wish I could wave a wand and make all my taped ones stainless...had I known tanks were coming....:facepalm:
 

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Well, with a little elbow grease you can. Most of my duallies are in the black wrapper, since I'd stocked up before entering tanktopia. I don't know what sort of adhesive they use on them, but it's weird in that you pull the wrapper off and ALL of the adhesive is still on the carto . . . I peeled one off today and the wrapper wasn't the slightest bit sticky when I got it off, just the carto was. Takes me about 5 minutes with a sturdy paper towel and some isopropyl alcohol to scrub it all off, another 5 seconds to punch it and done!
 

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Trying out a Kanger bottom-coil 808 in my mini cartomator right now. Working pretty well. I had some flooding at first, didn't have the carto inserted right and wasn't sealing with the upper o-ring, pushed it up a bit and now fine.
This thing vapes a lot like a CE2, good vapor and decent flavor, but lacking a little on throat hit. Gotta keep the watts low, too, or it gives dry hits (even while in the tank)

All in all, I like the Boges and dual coils better, I think. Both in the tanks and out . . . oh well, I wouldn't have known if I hadn't tried them
 

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Well, with a little elbow grease you can. Most of my duallies are in the black wrapper, since I'd stocked up before entering tanktopia. I don't know what sort of adhesive they use on them, but it's weird in that you pull the wrapper off and ALL of the adhesive is still on the carto . . . I peeled one off today and the wrapper wasn't the slightest bit sticky when I got it off, just the carto was. Takes me about 5 minutes with a sturdy paper towel and some isopropyl alcohol to scrub it all off, another 5 seconds to punch it and done!
Yeah I have a ton of Boges though and that adhesive is made to last. Maybe I gave up too soon but they just laughed and laughed and my isopropyl and paper towel, scoffed at nail polish remover (don't worry I was just having a test, not gonna use it). Glad to hear the DC and TC might be a bit easier.

As for the Kangers, I will try one with the hole punched as low as it will go, just clearing the bottom cap. See if that makes a difference. Those Kangeroos come in 510 threading too, BTW.
 

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On the stock I got today (I cleaned out the last of the Delrins), the stainless capped tanks and the Delrin capped tanks are not really switchable. I couldn't even get the stainless caps onto the originally Delrin capped tanks and the Delrin caps are quite loose on the Stainless, to the point of fear of falling off/leakage/not even remotely worth it. So the dreams of switching colors on a whim is down the drain.

Personally I wish you could just order the tubing alone (in the specific diameters to fit either delrin or SS) because I don't want to spend the extra dough to have more colors and now that I know they won't swap out, I doubt that I will.
 

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On the stock I got today (I cleaned out the last of the Delrins), the stainless capped tanks and the Delrin capped tanks are not really switchable. I couldn't even get the stainless caps onto the originally Delrin capped tanks and the Delrin caps are quite loose on the Stainless, to the point of fear of falling off/leakage/not even remotely worth it. So the dreams of switching colors on a whim is down the drain.

Personally I wish you could just order the tubing alone (in the specific diameters to fit either delrin or SS) because I don't want to spend the extra dough to have more colors and now that I know they won't swap out, I doubt that I will.



All the tubing is the same....I have stainless and delrin....Maybe you just need new o rings. All tubing for 99% of all the tank made has a 3/4" od and a 5/8" id
 

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The tanks are brand new, and I'm not disputing your measurements. Perhaps then the caps are different widths? I can only report my experience. What size (or number) are the o-rings that fit?

I don't know the o ring size on these....A good test is to remove the orings and see if caps still fit in the tubes. Or maybe put a little vg on the orings to help the caps on......meaning the ones your having trouble with.

I'm sure there a slight variations in the caps, but I would imagine the tolerances are really tight.
 

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I don't know the o ring size on these....A good test is to remove the orings and see if caps still fit in the tubes. Or maybe put a little vg on the orings to help the caps on......meaning the ones your having trouble with.

I'm sure there a slight variations in the caps, but I would imagine the tolerances are really tight.

I had to know, so I measured all the tolerances.

Delrin caps, 1.6 cm ID, tubes that came with the Delrin 1.5cm ID, O-ring bridges the 1mm gap
SS caps, ID 1.65 cm , tubes that came with SS are 1.55cm ID, o-ring bridges the 1mm gap.

So there is a small difference in each, which would explain the difficulties and I measured 2 of each to make sure. It accounts for why I can't interchange the stainless with the delrin caps on their respective tubing without great effort and damage of the o-rings. Hopefully the tolerances will be the same going forward, as I hope they were intended to be, surely. These measurements are just on the 4 I got today, 1 regular delrin, 1 mini delrin, 2 mini stainless. They other two are full of juice. Perhaps a little lube (VG) will allow putting the stainless on the delrin tubes, but the delrin caps will still be too loose for the stainless tubes. Perhaps passable if not lubed and care taken.

I am sure plenty of folks will now tell me I am full of it, c'est le vie.

Not a big deal in the scheme of things, but disappointing for me as I was hoping to swap colors without having to invest more money.
 

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I had to know, so I measured all the tolerances.

Delrin caps, 1.6 cm ID, tubes that came with the Delrin 1.5cm ID, O-ring bridges the 1mm gap
SS caps, ID 1.65 cm , tubes that came with SS are 1.55cm ID, o-ring bridges the 1mm gap.

So there is a small difference in each, which would explain the difficulties and I measured 2 of each to make sure. It accounts for why I can't interchange the stainless with the delrin caps on their respective tubing without great effort and damage of the o-rings. Hopefully the tolerances will be the same going forward, as I hope they were intended to be, surely. These measurements are just on the 4 I got today, 1 regular delrin, 1 mini delrin, 2 mini stainless. They other two are full of juice. Perhaps a little lube (VG) will allow putting the stainless on the delrin tubes, but the delrin caps will still be too loose for the stainless tubes. Perhaps passable if not lubed and care taken.

I am sure plenty of folks will now tell me I am full of it, c'est le vie.

Not a big deal in the scheme of things, but disappointing for me as I was hoping to swap colors without having to invest more money.

Good luck, I think the VG might help.
 

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I had to know, so I measured all the tolerances.

Delrin caps, 1.6 cm ID, tubes that came with the Delrin 1.5cm ID, O-ring bridges the 1mm gap
SS caps, ID 1.65 cm , tubes that came with SS are 1.55cm ID, o-ring bridges the 1mm gap.

So there is a small difference in each, which would explain the difficulties and I measured 2 of each to make sure. It accounts for why I can't interchange the stainless with the delrin caps on their respective tubing without great effort and damage of the o-rings. Hopefully the tolerances will be the same going forward, as I hope they were intended to be, surely. These measurements are just on the 4 I got today, 1 regular delrin, 1 mini delrin, 2 mini stainless. They other two are full of juice. Perhaps a little lube (VG) will allow putting the stainless on the delrin tubes, but the delrin caps will still be too loose for the stainless tubes. Perhaps passable if not lubed and care taken.

I am sure plenty of folks will now tell me I am full of it, c'est le vie.

Not a big deal in the scheme of things, but disappointing for me as I was hoping to swap colors without having to invest more money.

Theoretically everything should interchange, but the tolerances of polycarbonate pipe are just terrible to say the least. GE Lexan allows 5/100" (.05"). It doesn't sound like alot but that is 10 human hairs, which is more than enough to create a loose or a tight fit. Our caps are kept to a 3/1000" (.003") tolerance, which is about a half a hair. I have actually been talking to some plastics companies about adapting a medical grade plastic that 1)won't vary in size and 2)won't breakdown from certain juices. So hopefully something becomes of that. Siouxie, I'll pm you and we'll try to get the sizes straightened out so that you can interchange tubes.

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On carto glue removal, a battery powered drill and some 220 grit sandpaper makes it pretty easy.

Put the carto on the chuck, just gently tighten it, then run it for about 20 seconds with the sandpaper wrapped around the carto body. Loosen the chuck, flip the carto around, run it again, to remove glue from the other half of the carto. I'll gently move the sandpaper back and forth while doing this, to keep the abrasion even.

Wear safety glasses, though I haven't had anything come near my eyes when doing this.

Result is a nicely clean carto body :)
 

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Good idea. I didn't even think of using a drill, that would be so much easier :2cool:


Those Kangeroos come in 510 threading too, BTW.

Yeah, I know. I only got them with an 808 so I could tell them apart from my other cartos at a quick glance. I've already got a couple different cartos that size in 510 fittings and keep getting them mixed up no matter how hard I try to keep them organized :blush:

I'm back to a Boge in my mini cartomator, now. So much better vape :vapor:
 
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