Cartomizer or Atomizer more cost efficient?

[JustaGuy]

mello, a quality $6-8 Joye atty can last 1-3 months. That's $2-$0.67 per week at $8. People have gotten a year on them with proper maintenance. They're just little, delicate electric heaters and can be burned out if not careful. Knock on wood, but I haven't blown an atty yet in 2 months. They're still going strong and I vape 12 hours, 6 ml a day. Yes, there is maintenance.

 

[AttyPops]

P.S. (Addendum) If you have shaky hands issues, or real poor eyesight, or whatever that stops you from dripping correctly, don't drip. I don't miss (ok, maybe a drop every 3 days or so... but it's rare). They don't leak either (or crack, or have filler to wash out, or....). Dang near 100% of the juice goes into the vape. IDK what you guys are talking about, other than you're being totally uncoordinated while dripping.

Put the tip of the bottle in the hole, move up a mm or two, drip 3 drops. No miss. No mess. NO WASTE.

And melloyello, I suppose it depends on the carto, but yeah as a general rule, there's more waste over time with cartos. You don't have to be sorry about it The waste usually comes in if you clean them out, or they die. More so with those that use filler than with wick ones, assuming you can drain the juice to clean/toss.

OP: The experimentation thing is the best. We can only guess/debate. What works best FOR YOU is what matters. Only you can tell.

 

[my4jewels]

When I am ready to clean my cartos, I use the reverse taryn spin very vigorously to recover juice. The juice is fine because it don't burn my cartos. I don't think there's too much waste.

If I experience flavor loss or a tight draw, I spin them out really well. and put them aside in a bowl. I put the juice back in the bottle. I just cleaned 50-60 cartos using 15 minutes boiling cycles until the water was clear bubbles. I blew them out really well. I did it all in between watching my fave TV show, no big deal. Then put them in front of a fan to dry them. They are hitting like new.

There's more to it than, "which is most cost efficient". Cartos do offer a convenience that dripping or using atties with carts does not. I have not tried tanks or liquinators yet. Although I just got some tanks in a trade, so I will be trying those soon. I really didn't want the tanks, but they were thrown in with what I really wanted.

 

[want to quit]

I can only speak for myself and not facts or anything else.

I used cartos for a long time but than went over to attys and must say I personally think attys last long and perform better. If I clean a carto the performance is not at 100% anymore whereas the atty can be cleaned and still performance like new. Furthermore an atty provides me with a cleaner vape than a carto that being said attys it is.

 

[Bozzlite]

I don't know which is more cost efficient. But to me Cartos are more satisfying as far as flavor and vapor, and a lot less trouble than attys.

An atomizer costs about $8.00. A box of 5 cartomizers costs about the same as one atomizer.

Cleaning a cartomizer is just not worth it to me. After 10-14 days, just throw them away if they start going down hill. I mean, sheesh, they are only $1.59 a piece.

A pack of cigs is 6 bucks if you get the cheap ones.

 

[melloyello]

a carto can never match an atty for flavor in my opinion. every juice i have tasted in both, tastes better/more in an atty....its just not always convenient to drip, there are times i want to go 6 puffs without refilling. and dont get me started on the blue foam filler.

 

[Creniker]

Thanks for all the replies!

I may just get an atty + cart + drip tip and a few different cartos and experiment. I'm really not liking the taste of my couple month old boges, and taste is important to me =p

I'm considering the joye xl atty and xl carto, and maybe picking up some ce2's and even possibly some G4's.

what do you guys think?

thanks!

If you get some atties just follow the atty resurection method as needed. I have a atty from god knows where that has lasted 3 months because of it, and all my others are coming up on a month as well.

 

[gel drops]

I will take the high road on this one,I like them all but my credit card hates them..

 

[ShannonA]

P.S. (Addendum) If you have shaky hands issues, or real poor eyesight, or whatever that stops you from dripping correctly, don't drip. I don't miss (ok, maybe a drop every 3 days or so... but it's rare). They don't leak either (or crack, or have filler to wash out, or....). Dang near 100% of the juice goes into the vape. IDK what you guys are talking about, other than you're being totally uncoordinated while dripping.

Put the tip of the bottle in the hole, move up a mm or two, drip 3 drops. No miss. No mess. NO WASTE.

And melloyello, I suppose it depends on the carto, but yeah as a general rule, there's more waste over time with cartos. You don't have to be sorry about it The waste usually comes in if you clean them out, or they die. More so with those that use filler than with wick ones, assuming you can drain the juice to clean/toss.

OP: The experimentation thing is the best. We can only guess/debate. What works best FOR YOU is what matters. Only you can tell.

If you have trouble telling when you need to drip again and drip too soon thus overfilling the atty they leak plenty. That's the problem I have... not the atty's fault but that's why dripping doesn't work for me.

 

[llmercll]

thanks for the replies!

With cartridge I will need to use some sort of filler like tea bag or blue foam. Does anyone know where I can get the foam and which kind exactly I need?

I'm also wondering where I can get the BD syringes and exactly what kind I would be looking for?

thanks!

 

[donnah]

I really love the boge cartos, smoother draw and lots better flavor to me BUT I can't make one last over 3 days and cleaning them doesn't do much in my experience. I do like the bottom feeders, I think they are way more cost effective as far as juice wastage and my LR atty is still going strong a month later with no cleaning, I just blow it out every day or so. This is why I'm looking into a quality bottom feeder. I won't give up the cartos though!

 

[haft2doit]

thanks for the replies!

With cartridge I will need to use some sort of filler like tea bag or blue foam. Does anyone know where I can get the foam and which kind exactly I need?

I'm also wondering where I can get the BD syringes and exactly what kind I would be looking for?

thanks!

I don't know what people use now a days but a couple years ago I'm sure I was on threads about it and I still have half of the foam I got lying around. It was from a pet store (petsmart) it's an aquarium filter labeled U. I think fluval blue foam type U filter. Mine was in a round sleeve type form. 1/8" thick or so. I think the U has to do with the size of partical it's designed to remove. I had some other foam that wouldn't hold juice because it was too coarse. Someone please chime in if this isn't what's best these days.

 

[haft2doit]

I really love the boge cartos, smoother draw and lots better flavor to me BUT I can't make one last over 3 days and cleaning them doesn't do much in my experience. I do like the bottom feeders, I think they are way more cost effective as far as juice wastage and my LR atty is still going strong a month later with no cleaning, I just blow it out every day or so. This is why I'm looking into a quality bottom feeder. I won't give up the cartos though!

Ya I can't get much out of a boge either. Been interested in trying a bottom feeder. I think that's the only way I'd get back into an atty setup. I can't stand the open bottle pull off DT drip 2-3 drops replace DT close bottle for 3 drags and repeat. If I can carry a whole days worth of juice and never have to open a bottle, it might get me back on the atty train. I do like the vape of a 306. My other problem with atty's is to get a good hit i need pretty low resistance 1.5-2.0 ohms which eat up battery life and I can't/don't want to use on small 808 batts or really even my egos. my 2.8ohm clearos give great warm vapor even at 3.2v.

 

[Bozzlite]

I don't know what people use now a days but a couple years ago I'm sure I was on threads about it and I still have half of the foam I got lying around. It was from a pet store (petsmart) it's an aquarium filter labeled U. I think fluval blue foam type U filter. Mine was in a round sleeve type form. 1/8" thick or so. I think the U has to do with the size of partical it's designed to remove. I had some other foam that wouldn't hold juice because it was too coarse. Someone please chime in if this isn't what's best these days.

Yes, its the Marineland Rite size U. I got mine at Petsmart.

 

[Kahuna]

for me, I gave up on carts looong ago, and gave up on atty+cart a while ago completely. I bought a pack of CE2r5XLs in march and use 2 in rotation. One gave up the ghost a week ago, so I'm technically on my 3rd from the pack of 5, in 4 months. I immediately replace the tube with a BD 3ml syringe out of the box. They get cleaned and dry burned (and I torch the wicks to a pearly white) every 3-4 fills. So as far as cost efficiency, spending $11 (+$2 for 3 BD syringes) in what might be 6 months or more of use from one pack is pretty good. An atty usually lasts me a month, a carto a week, in comparison, so CE2s have been way more favorable. I don't really miss the warmth of my 510s or the flavor of my 901s anymore either.

 

[Sandrita]

The nice thing about attys is they last longer and it is possible to clean them. The only downside is as far as I am aware they are typically more expensive you will also need a spare just in case one dies!

 

[llmercll]

for me, I gave up on carts looong ago, and gave up on atty+cart a while ago completely. I bought a pack of CE2r5XLs in march and use 2 in rotation. One gave up the ghost a week ago, so I'm technically on my 3rd from the pack of 5, in 4 months. I immediately replace the tube with a BD 3ml syringe out of the box. They get cleaned and dry burned (and I torch the wicks to a pearly white) every 3-4 fills. So as far as cost efficiency, spending $11 (+$2 for 3 BD syringes) in what might be 6 months or more of use from one pack is pretty good. An atty usually lasts me a month, a carto a week, in comparison, so CE2s have been way more favorable. I don't really miss the warmth of my 510s or the flavor of my 901s anymore either.

I'm thinking of doing the exact same thing =p

I didn't know you could dry burn ce2's though, that's awesome. And what do you mean exactly by torching the wick?

thanks a lot!

 

[JTman]

How long a carto/atty will last can depend a lot on the juice being used. I started vaping this thick sugary caramel macchiato flavor and it killed my atty before I finished the juice (6ml sample). The atty wasnt new, but it was working great prior to the flavor switch. Some flavors can form a lot of slag that can coat the coil and cause a premature failure. Just wanted to bring this issue up as there are many factors that influence the lifespan of your heating element of choice.

 

[wdave]

Hello!

I've been using cartos for a few months now and, after reusing the same ones, am starting to notice a decline in flavor. I'm guessing it's because residue is building up in the polyfill and/or coil, which adds an unpleasant light smokey taste. I won't be reusing them much longer because of this.

I'm going to purchase some new supplies soon and was wondering if going the atomizer + cartridge route would save me money + last longer. I was thinking I could just clean out the cartridges and refill them with pyramid bags or blue foam, and possibly dry burn the atty? That way everything would be super clean after even a month or two of vaping. I wouldn't be able to do this with a carto, since everything is in one piece.

Please let me know what you think!

thanks!

510 with standard 510 cart and straw mod is a real miser.

 

[DC2]

I agree with everything Attypops said about atomizers.