Cartos for VG?

[SusanK]

Are there specific cartomizers that are better for 100% VG? Whereas I'm not thrilled about keeping it strictly PG, I seem to have some not so fun reactions to PG. Throat hurts, tongue hurts, and with those issues, the bigger throat hit is way too harsh. I switched to all VG and it's soooo much better. Taste is definitely minimized, but I do add extra flavor to help that out some.

I seem to be burning right through cartomizers, though. 2 that I just got, right off the bat, burned hot and then tasted terrible. The 3rd is working just fine... but it gets pretty warm. Am I crazy that I think it's related to the type of juice?

 

[Dougiestyle]

Tried thinning the VG with PGA? 2-3% gets it managable for cartos. Helps some flavors, too. Definitely increases TH. Look in your local liquor store for Everclear or Golden Grain. If you're in a state that prohibits PGA, then try the highest proof vodka you can find.

 

[CCC]

I use Echo-e cartos on my eGo batts with a very high VG content and never have problems. You could try thinning your VG with distilled water or vodka to get it to wick better, and i heard that the weather affects the viscosity, in warmer weather it seems thinner, i guess that is why i dont have to thin mine down.

 

[cavibird2005]

If your going to stay 100% VG....your best bet is a bottom feeder and an atty. You can get into one fairly cheap.

Old Goat Mods I have one of these.. Love Mine.

 

[madjack]

...yes, it is probably juice related...VG is tough to fill and wick with in all cartos...I vape an 85% and a 60% VG juice...while the 60% is not bad, I ABSOLUTELY havvta use a syringe to fill a carto with the 85...I also havvta vape a bit slower to give it time to wick between vapes...I use the SmokTech 1.7ohm XL cartos(the resurrectors)...the filler in SmokTechs seems to be somewhat looser than in the Boges...the XL cartos hold 2ml of juice, I fill a syringe with 2ml and inject it deep down the carto in a couple R three diff spots...then drip a few drops on top to insure it is full...to top them up, I place one of the condoms on the bottom to seal it off...fill the top with juice(pooled up) and then suck on the barrel, this forms a vacuum in the carto and the juice will replace the removed air...remove bottom condom, and give a pretty good blow on the threaded end to clear the center air channel, connect and vape...tis what works for me......
madjack

 

[SusanK]

I was afraid someone would tell me to thin it

I've tried dripping, and all that taught me was that I love cartomizers.

Maybe, going by what madjack is saying, I'm just rushing it a bit. I filled them up (at least I thought I did) and used them right away. Maybe if I fill them up, leave them alone, and make sure they're really filled up, I'll have better luck???

I was hoping someone was going to tell me that I just had a bad batch of cartos lol. I knew it was related though. Oh well.

Thanks for the help.... again.

 

[Kristian]

I vape 100% VG juices most of the time. I like to use Smoktech cartos. I like these as well. I don't know who makes them, but they seem to work quite well with high VG juice. I use a syringe and needle to fill and let them sit for about 20 minutes to let it soak in before I put them on a battery.

 

[SusanK]

I vape 100% VG juices most of the time. I like to use Smoktech cartos. I like these as well. I don't know who makes them, but they seem to work quite well with high VG juice. I use a syringe and needle to fill and let them sit for about 20 minutes to let it soak in before I put them on a battery.

I just ordered some smoketech earlier today... and it really does seem like my method may be my problem. I don't need a new carto, yet, but I will def try to slow it down next time!!

 

[zerominusone]

Get a drip tip and it won't matter how hot your carto gets. I got some lower Ohm cartos to make the vapor warmer so the throat hit would be a little better but they cartos get really hot so I put a drip tip on 'em and it doesn't matter how hot they get anymore.

 

[erich]

I don't think the heat has anything to do with the juice. The heat is relative to voltage / resistance. As long as it's not tasting burnt, I wouldn't worry much about the carto feeling hot. The atomizer is ~200°, so some of that is going to transfer to the metal casing.

I use 100%VG Boba's in a carto tank all the time. I just punch a lot of holes in it with thicker juice.

 

[washvap]

Yup, thicker juice will play a big factor in wicking issues. Since it takes longer for the diaper (piece of cotton wrapped around the coil) to get moist again. So, it's best to take some time to fill it and to take some breaks during vaping to let it re-wick properly. For example, letting it rest for a minute or two after about 5-8 hits. High VG juices have this effect on every single carto out there. So, there's no specific brand that stands out the best. Whether it be boge, smoketech, IKV's, etc. Although, sheer performance such as TH, flavor, and warmth of vapor will depend on what carto that you are using.

Carto tanks can be the answer for people that prefer cartos. Since it keeps it relatively moist so that it wicks properly. Bottom feeders are also an alternative. Since something like a REO was created for users to specifically use VG juices in them. That's why he includes a reducer tube for people that like using PG liquids in them. Might not be something that you want. But, I thought that I would put that out there for you to know what's available.

 

[Lady M]

I use Bobas in a big daddy tank with 1.5 ex large carto , it has one hole punched and I think Im gonna punch another hole because it for sure has a hard time wicking compared to my 70 pg 30 vg mixes who ever gave that tip thanks.

 

[erich]

I pop holes in a carto until it looks like a golf ball... only way I've found to keep it consistent... I use a total of 7 holes. 3 equidistant about 1/3 of the way up, another 3 about 2/3, and one last one as close to the top of the filler as I can guess. This last one is probably just a psychological effect for me, so I can actually see it saturating the very top of the filler. We're probably not actually worried about that regarding performance. It still never floods this way. I used to use 4 holes with a 100%PG mix and it still never flooded. I'm not sure what people who report flooding are doing, but I suspect exposing it to temperature changes. Hot car, etc.

I generally vape 2ohm @ 4.4-4.8v. 5v would be fine functionally, but I find that some juice tastes a little on the burnt side

 

[bmwjen]

I use all vg, even the flavoring is vg based. I slot my cartos with a dremel tool, about 30 at a time.

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[mynameisrob]

100% VG juices are def really thick. I would consider using a syringe to fill them. Drip filling with juice that thick can be risky bc it takes a long time to make its way thru the filler and to the atty. A syringe takes all the guesswork out of filling and you dont have to worry about if the atty at the bottom is wet or not since you fill from the bottom up.
When you say it burned hot then tasted terrible, thats most likely bc the atty was still dry and singed the wick/filler.
Also like the other suggestions said, VG doesnt wick as fast so you need to give the carto some time to catch back up if you vape a lot. I would order some cartos from CCV. They give a free syringe with all carto purchases and that syringe is perfect for filling. I fill all my Ressurector cartos with that syringe and have never burned one.
I recently tried Bobas for the first time and unfortunately found out I like it. I say unfortunately bc I think its very overpriced and I also hate how its soo thick. It is quite good though. With Bobas I have to use a syringe to fill bc its so thick. Drip filling an empty Ressurector would take all day bc it barely absorbs. It basically just sits on to of the filler and slowwllyy makes its way down. A syringe makes it quick and easy and you dont have to wait at all for the juice to settle. So if you dont want to thin the juice, I would def try using a syringe to fill your cartos with 100% VG juices. I think it will greatly lessen your chances of ruining a carto bc your burned the wick from being too dry.

Also, what cartos are you using? A few other people mentioned it, but I would def recommend trying some Smoktech cartos. I dont know what PV you use, but the Smoktech cartos work fairly well with thicker juices. I use the Ressurector cartos on an E-Power, which are just the Smoktech 1.7ohm XL cartos. I find the Ressurectors filler is wrapped much looser than some other cartos. The looser filler seems to soak in thick juices alittle easier and doesnt clog as quickly. Boge cartos have the filler tightly wrapped and take alot longer for VG juices to settle

 

[JTman]

I'll just throw my experience into the mix. I use a Reo Grand (bottom feeder) with boge cartos (among others) without having any issues with 100% VG juice. With the bottom feeder I am able to keep a carto saturated so I never have any wicking problems at all. I am able to vape 100%VG just as easily as 100%PG.

 

[SusanK]

Right now, I have a pretty good supply of batteries... a standard kr808, and ego type, another one that I don't even know how to explain, an elips (no carto on that piece of crap) and a puck mod that my husband made. My cartos are Kanger? Is that right? I don't think the carto is the issue... I really think its because I didn't allow it to stay wet enough. I was actually hoping that was the case... I was just afraid that the juice was damaging the atty. I feel much better knowing it was my fault because I really love the smoothness and lack of burn I have some Boge's on the way for the mod. Now, I am trying to avoid any more purchases until next month.... but I see a bottom feeder in my future.