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BlitzkriegTim

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So, maybe I'm just spoiled in that the only carto or cart/atty that I have ever used is the CE2, but I made an honest attempt at dripping today and I gotta say, It's not doing it for me. It all seems so finicky and cumbersome. I debridged an atty, removed the wicking material (yes an atty), and used an empty cart for a tip. I thouroughly rinsed the atty out and dried it out, then dry burned it to make sure it was dry. I put three drops in there and tried to vape on it, nothing at all. Then I put 2 more drops in and tried again. This time I got vapor but it was pitiful, so I tried shorter stronger puffs and it was better. Still, I only found I got decent TH and vapor when I could literally hear the juice gurgling as I took a drag. And what TH that I did get felt more like throat burn. I'm so turned off dripping at this point, I was gonna order a drip tip for when I'm at home then I can save my cartos for work but I'm reconsidering now. Surely with so many die hard drippers out there it must be better than this! I've got to be doing something wrong.
 

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It takes practice! Yes a drip tip makes a difference as it keeps ur drips centered! I leave my 510 atties as they come (a bit freaked to fiddle with em) the trick is finding a balance between how many drips so u don't mildly flood ur atty, I hate dripping in a new or newly cleaned atty and like them much better when they are broken in! Don't give up its definately worth it in the end :)
 

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and try it as is first, dont pull or poke just use it as it is , i like to blow out any primer , add a few drops and then blow it out again just to get some juice flowing through to help get the primer out , then add a few drops and vape away , after a few good puffs 6-8 when i notice the flavour drop a little i add 2 drops and continue every 6-8 puffs
 

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LR 306's are the primo vape, but when it comes to LR 510's or stock 510's I generally remove the bridge. I never mess with my LR 306's at all but my 510 LR's work best bridgeless.

I was in the same boat as a dripper, only I started dripping with just a stock atty on a stock battery. I got a burning flavor and it put me off dripping for months. That being said I didn't actually quit analogs until I was a dedicated dripper, I only managed to cut down using carts.


Dripping is the best vaping experience I have ever had and more specifically dripping on the LR 306, no matter the device really. I've tried stock and LR 510 atties, 510 cartos, 901's, carts, E9's, and nothing even holds a candle to the LR 306 for flavor, TH and value.

It sounds like perhaps you are dripping too much. Try blowing out the atty and putting 3 or 4 drops in, then vape it. I have found that some LR 510's like to be flooded (3-? drops) while others can't handle it (1-2 drops), which I know sounds kind of confusing but it is just inconsistancies in the manufacturing process. I try a lot (4-6) of drops first and if I get poor vapor/ flavor/ TH I will ball park how many it should be by the vape, blow out the atty and try again.

I HATE the taste of burning atty, so I drip an aweful lot... So my habits may be a bit over zealous but it works for me.:vapor:
 

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not really a huge fan of dripping and i've not found a decent carto. I may be the last of a dying breed still using carts with poly/nylon fill. I just like it better. better draw and less dry atty taste when i forget to top off. Plus dripping and driving isn't easy.
I've got some ce-2's coming tomorrow so i'll give those a whirl, and see how it goes.
 

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not really a huge fan of dripping and i've not found a decent carto. I may be the last of a dying breed still using carts with poly/nylon fill. I just like it better. better draw and less dry atty taste when i forget to top off. Plus dripping and driving isn't easy.
I've got some ce-2's coming tomorrow so i'll give those a whirl, and see how it goes.

I was the same until recently. I did drip and use cartos but carts with blue foam were my primary. Since I got my c-e2 I am now using those primarily. Just clean them out first and check out youtube for some info on removing the 3 rings. The inner one over the ceramic cup is the hardest.
 

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Take one of you CE2's, pull the top cap and internal filler cap. Leave the atty with the ceramic ring intact. Leave the wick intact. Drip on the exposed ceramic ring and atty. I used the CE2 unmodified for awhile but eventually they seemed to lose wicking and start to taste burnt or lose vapor capability (even when full as I proved to myself by building and using a clear syringe CE2 mod). Drip away from 3 to 10 drops. Never have to worry about leaking (unless you turn it upside down with a bunch of juice in it) either as the carto is sealed up to the ceramic ring. I experienced the same por vape quality as you with a dewicked and dewicked/debriged 501. This easy carto mod works great for me
 

BlitzkriegTim

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DeamonCleaner, With those CE2's I reccomend not filling them more than 1.5ml, and when you go to vape (only if it's stock with nothing removed) turn it upside down for like 3 seconds before vaping on it. I have been getting amazing results, I talked about it in another thread but you'll see the difference. I've tried every imaginable way to vape these and nothing beats it. It's like I take a haul and its ok, then I flip it upside down and after that its like vape heaven. I've also had good results with the syringe mod. The CE2's that I got definately had some sort of liquid on the wick so I would stress rinsing them out first. Good luck
 

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Well I got my first CE2 R4's today.

The note inside said "max 1mL" of juice per cartomizer...which was a bit odd since these are supposed to be the XL variety. But whatever. Opened one, rinsed it thoroughly, blew it out, and dry-burned it (using my hot pink manual 510). Alas, I didn't do it long enough to see the coil get red. I didn't realize how long it would take to get it to turn red. So it tasted awful, the burnt plastic taste. Wasted a mL of juice.

So I rinsed it out again, removed the end cap & removable inner ring...plunked it into a pot of cold water, and when it reached boiling I boiled it for 15 minutes. Then re-rinsed, shook it out/blew it out...and this time dry-burned with the 510 until the coil glowed red. Took at least 2 minutes of constantly pressing & re-pressing the button (when it cut off) for the coil to get there. Once it got red hot, I did at least three 7-second dry burns. Let the cartomizer cool (it was like crazy hot after that). After that, my juice tasted proper.

But I still don't like these. Juice apparently leaks quite easily from the cup inside, despite the removable protective silicone ring in the middle. For example, I was downtown and had been using the CE2 for over an hour without problem (but without much satisfaction)...stopped vaping for about 15 minutes & then went to take a draw...and to my unpleasant surprise, I got a fairly large mouthful of juice!!! Never had that kind of baloney with a Boge. Boges 1, ceramics 0.

Plus they don't seem to perform as well, vapour-wise. Definitely not consistently, at any rate. Throat hit was also noticeably lacking, to the point of being almost non-existent. I was getting the nic...just not the throat hit. I was like "what is this baloney" - so I used the same juice in a standard Boge 510 cartomizer (a new one) and boom - great, consistent vapour...& excellent throat hit. Boges 2, ceramics 0.

The CE2 R4's also...well, felt weird. I'm used to having the filler in there. I don't know what it was per se...but after trying them, I'm not so convinced now that filler is a bad thing. Oh, and the whole "no glue" thing? Not convinced that's true. The non-removable ring with the filler holes certainly looks glued on to me. There's some sort of very visible substance holding it on there quite firmly & it damn well looks like glue, lol.

So I'll still commend RoyalSmoker for their innovation - the idea has some promise. But I won't be buying CE2 R4's again. When they develop the CE3's...they should consider making the removable protective middle ring thing out of ceramic. Perhaps a little locking doohickey that can be nudged to slide over top of the filling holes, to ensure no leakage out of them. Those holes should also be a tad larger too: filling is not easy when the hole is too small to fit a blunt tip syringe (and barely even fits their cheapo, easily breakable plastic needletip). Perhaps a see through gauge on the outside too so you can see when the cup is running low. Or just make the whole thing see through.

One thing's for sure...CE3's are definitely going to happen, because these CE2 R4's are just by no means a happy vaper's favourite. There's just too much inconsistency, bad performance, leakage, and the lack of readiness out-of-the-box for these to be considered anything more than a prototype stage. I'm actually surprised that they produced these in a large quantity, they're so obviously not ready for rollout. All in all...I still love the standard 510 Boge cartomizers & much, much prefer them over the ceramics - they hands down beat the current ceramics on every count - so I'll stick with the Boges as my main deal.
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Next time I want to experiment (or rather, next time that I can afford to :laugh:), I'll give the LR 510 cartomizers from ProVape a go (they're 1.5 ohms, which sounds awesome). I look forward to that. Anyone who has tried them with a 510, eGo, or Mega eGo - I'd love to hear your thoughts! You can post here or PM me.
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BlitzkriegTim

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Wow Rachel, that doesn't sound like you've had a good experience at all... As for me I always keep my ego with ce2's on it upright, and occasionally I take out the outside white ring and use paper towel to clean out any juice that has condensed. I can say 100% that there is no glue on the ring that you're talking about, I take it out every time I fill. What you are seeing is just the cup through the silicone ring, like if you were to put your hand up against a glass window. Did you try the flipping it upside down like I mentioned it the other thread? I get perfect consitency when I do that. Maybe I just don't know any better cause the only thing I've ever vaped on is a ce2, I'll put in an order for some of those boge cartos from Jack and give them a try. Maybe they will rock my world :p
 

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ya leave the bridge in, i get a better draw with a drip tip too
my bridgeless atty sucks big time even if i make sure to drip right on the coil
get a LR 306 to try from happyvaper and the drip tips there to i like it much better than a 510 and it doesnt need an adapter the 306 fits the 510

Sorry to hijack an old thread, but I didn't know you could put a 306 on a 510! Which one would you recommend? (using an eGO and never tried a LR atty)

Canadian electronic cigarette Happy/Cicco low resistance 306 atomizer (atomiser) - Black, Silver

Canadian electronic cigarette Happy/Joye low resistance 306 atomizer (atomiser) - Black, Silver
 
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