Cartotank Newbie - Point me in the right direction

[PBOB]

So, I have decided to I want to try a Carto tank. I have pretty much decided to go with IBTanked 19mm Cartomizer Tank . I have heard many good things about IBTanked and I want the best. Along those same lines, I have also decided to go with IkenVape cartomizers. Having never held, much less purchased, a cartomizer, I have no idea which to start with. I think I prefer a tighter draw, but having no experience with cartos, I have no frame of reference.

I will be attaching it to my Vamo v3, if that has anything to do with it.

I am planning on placing the order tomorrow.

 

[PBOB]

Ok, so maybe I won't be placing that order tomorrow, as I noticed he is out of stock of most of his punched cartos.

 

[5cardstud]

He has orders on the way. so it should be soon. The Vamo V3 is variable so you can use the lr fusion but for longer battery life I would go with either the 510 mega Fusion 3.0 punch if your Vamo V3 is a 510 threaded device. You wouldn't have any problems with the LR 2.0 510 mega Fusion punch as it's not that low at 2.0 ohms also his IKV Fusion tank 6ml is a great tank at a good price so you have it all on one order for shipping. Besides it's nice to get the cartos and tank at the same time. It's the tank I use besides the M1A1.

 

[Sed Contra]

I bought the 22mm XL tank from IBTanked, and I love it. I'm still undecided between the Fusion and Platinum cartos from Ikenvape. Both are quality cartos, though there is a learning curve to priming them. Check out Baditude's blog post on priming them. He's a good dude, and he has helped me quite a bit.

 

[BernieVideo]

Which carto you will like best is up to your own taste and what types of fluid u Vape.

I also strongly recommend Baditude's blogs. Also check YouTube out for carto priming methods. There are many different methods

I prefer the Ikenvape platinum mega LR punched V2s. But I find they work better with some of my liquids and less well with others. Sometimes they last 3 weeks or more. With some liquids only a week. I haven't figured out the what and whys of that yet.

I have also used Boge cartos and they work ok too.

I want to try the slotted Smoktech ones.

My advice is to buy 5 of each and try them then decide for yourself.


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[5cardstud]

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[State O' Flux]

Ok, so maybe I won't be placing that order tomorrow, as I noticed he is out of stock of most of his punched cartos.

Good choice on the IBT tanks. Now that Ray has closed 3Vs doors, I'm getting tanks exclusively from IBT. The quality, service and price structure are hard to beat.

If you want to be a "serious tanker", it's a priority to have IKVs in your personal stash, but it's also good to have Boge 2X1mm cartos (or laser slotted if you like high VG juices) in there as well for back-up... or a tank you don't want to blow an IKV carto on.

The current Boges are actually quite good... considering they (98% sure ;-)) make them for Isaac, I think they may have learned a thing or two from his designs/QC demands. Still not as good as the IKV proprietary Platinum Punch 2X3mm... but not way far off.
I use both at any given time... the IKVs taste better/last longer than the Boges, but the difference seems less than past examples.

Saying that, Isaac is a terrific guy, and all the carto tank fans do our best to support Ikenvape... even if it's just 10 cartos at a time.

 

[PBOB]

Ok, so I have ordered my tank...Actually ordered the 22mm, rather than the 19mm. Got a carto with it and will buy cartos locally until Isaac gets his order.

 

[Iken]

Thanks State!
Yep, The Fusion and Platinum sure do come from there. However I actually design them. Slotted, Punched, batting formations and densities etc. The 801 and 510 Fusion line are sets that I actually created for them. We have an agreement among others that entail our brand uses our coils exclusively for better and smoother burning.


PBOB I actually used this an email from last night, but thought it would be good to share the differences with you.
Big difference but good performance. The batting densities are tighter on the Fusion line and looser on the Platinum as is the draw. One of the main differences, is that they actually use two different types of coils. The Platinum focuses more on flavor as the Fusion is more on feel. Though with the airflow modifications, it allows us to tune the draw which plays heavily on both flavor and feel. The platinum has the more loose draw like a boge with a slightly cooler feel as the Fusion line is tuned for a tighter draw that enhances feel as the coil keeps the flavor in check. Though some would argue which has the better flavor.

 

[State O' Flux]

Thanks State!
Yep, The Fusion and Platinum sure do come from there. However I actually design them. Slotted, Punched, batting formations and densities etc. The 801 and 510 Fusion line are sets that I actually created for them. We have an agreement among others that entail our brand uses our coils exclusively for better and smoother burning.


PBOB I actually used this an email from last night, but thought it would be good to share the differences with you.
Big difference but good performance. The batting densities are tighter on the Fusion line and looser on the Platinum as is the draw. One of the main differences, is that they actually use two different types of coils. The Platinum focuses more on flavor as the Fusion is more on feel. Though with the airflow modifications, it allows us to tune the draw which plays heavily on both flavor and feel. The platinum has the more loose draw like a boge with a slightly cooler feel as the Fusion line is tuned for a tighter draw that enhances feel as the coil keeps the flavor in check. Though some would argue which has the better flavor.

Hey Isaac... what's shakin'?

IMO, the Platinums having more of a focus on flavor may be an understatement... not so much vs the Fusion, but compared to the standard Boge 510, dramatic enough, for me at least, to be able to taste the finer nuances and "flavor notes" (Christ, I sound like a wine critic ) of many juices, that I wouldn't have otherwise known existed.
Boge has gotten better, but they can still mute certain flavors - that will come shining through with your most excellent Platinums.

Some think the price difference is too much... but in my experience, if you want to really "taste the juice" with a carto tank, Platinum Punch is the only way to go.
I mean, come on... we spend hundreds on mechs and fancy APVs... but .70 cents more for a carto that lasts over a week and makes juice taste better for that entire time, I'd say that any complaints about that relatively insignificant difference... is a false economy.
A tank is just a pretty container, some are good, some not so good, but the carto is responsible for the "quality" of vapor... why skimp?

All this thinkin' about IKV cartos... reminds me, I need more Platinums!
SOF

 

[Iken]

Hey Isaac... what's shakin'?

IMO, the Platinums having more of a focus on flavor may be an understatement... not so much vs the Fusion, but compared to the standard Boge 510, dramatic enough, for me at least, to be able to taste the finer nuances and "flavor notes" (Christ, I sound like a wine critic ) of many juices, that I wouldn't have otherwise known existed.
Boge has gotten better, but they can still mute certain flavors - that will come shining through with your most excellent Platinums.

Some think the price difference is too much... but in my experience, if you want to really "taste the juice" with a carto tank, Platinum Punch is the only way to go.
I mean, come on... we spend hundreds on mechs and fancy APVs... but .70 cents more for a carto that lasts over a week and makes juice taste better for that entire time, I'd say that any complaints about that relatively insignificant difference... is a false economy.
A tank is just a pretty container, some are good, some not so good, but the carto is responsible for the "quality" of vapor... why skimp?

All this thinkin' about IKV cartos... reminds me, I need more Platinums!
SOF

I love ya SOF and am right on the same page with you. A tank is an enclosure thathas one job and that's to hold the liquid. For the moment we have just the plain polycarbonate version. The way I see it, if the liquid of choice is eating away at the housing, then it's probably not a good idea to inhale with prolonged exposure.

Some folks get to caught up and occupied with our lovely vaping world and accept poor product performance because of a certain flavor is too delicious to avoid. This raises 2 points, the first being poor quality with poorly made batting and coils that burn and #2 putting these burned or (what could be destructive liquid) substances into their bodies without a thought because of budgeting. I can easily make a carto to last months, but wouldn't because of the inevitable destruction to the batting during regular use and/or unknown nature of the house mixed liquid. Harmful stuff.

 

[5cardstud]

In the long run they're cheaper because of the length of use time versus the cheap ones. The quality and the out of pocket both beat the others at the end of the day.

 

[BardicDruid]

You will most definitely want to read through these before getting started:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-5-baditudes-cartomizer-tank-setup-guide.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/4830-8-cartotank-help-noob.html

 

[Iken]

You will most definitely want to read through these before getting started:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-5-baditudes-cartomizer-tank-setup-guide.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/4830-8-cartotank-help-noob.html

Nice one! These are the infamous guides that has helped thousands.

 

[Baditude]

Nice one! These are the infamous guides that has helped thousands.

 

[PBOB]

I had read through both of those links prior to making the CartoTank decision.

Baditude is THE Answer Man on all things Carto and Battery. Every time I see a battery question come up on the forum, anywhere on the forum, Baditude has the answers and/corrections!

 

[PBOB]

Ok, here is the update.

My IBT tank arrived yesterday, but I did not check the mail yesterday. Did today, though...and there it was. Followed Bad's advice in his blog and badda, bing...it works like a charm. And I believe I am a convert.

Now can't wait for my Boge's to show up. And Isaac's stock to arrive!

Thanks to all!!!

 

[Iken]

You have no idea how many silent thank you's I give you day. To others and myself, you are a legend sir. :thumbsup:

Ok, here is the update.

My IBT tank arrived yesterday, but I did not check the mail yesterday. Did today, though...and there it was. Followed Bad's advice in his blog and badda, bing...it works like a charm. And I believe I am a convert.

Now can't wait for my Boge's to show up. And Isaac's stock to arrive!

Thanks to all!!!

Rock on P Bob! With his advice I'm sure a standard Boge would still be awesome!

 

[5cardstud]

Cartotank Newbie - Point me in the right direction

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[New2vaps]

Ikenvape, I have a question on part of a response you made above " I can easily make a carto to last months, but wouldn't because of the inevitable destruction to the batting during regular use and/or unknown nature of the house mixed liquid. Harmful stuff."

From what I have read on this forum, most people will say replace the carto when the taste starts to go, or when the draw becomes tight. This made me start thinking, if I have been vaping on a carto and it's been 3 weeks with no problems, shall I replace it with a new one any way? The cartos have been lasting a long time but reading your statement made me think maybe I should be replacing them more often.

Is there a time frame that you would recommend replacing cartos even though they still vape well?

Thanks