Catfish atty mods.

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Yiorgo

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That is insane! Especially since it's going to the boondocks that is Chicago.... Oh wait a minute Chicago is what? The third or fourth largest city in the US? Honestly to ship faster than I do would require a crystal ball. I hate having your money and your atty(s). It's like hot potato with me. I can't sleep if I have things to ship. I feel your pain! I treat people a certain way an assume they will reciprocate but rarely do. The post office rarely impresses me.

Now DHL amazes me every time. Hong Kong to Dc in 24hrs everytime. Manilla to DC 24hrs! I swear I look at the DHL delivery guy like "I know you were speeding... "
Boondocks huh? I just got notified that my Magma and Veritas just became residents of Illinois and will soon be in my grubby lil hands in a matter of hours...... That's less than 3 days. That's crazy fast shipping . Now all I need is for my amazon package and 6 rolls of kanthal to get here...... Let the coiling games begin!!!

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On on the way out to drill these will be ready tonight or tomorrow. I will still order the rings and tips for them but I will ship them as they come in. This will also give you a chance to see if you actually still want the extras. For anyone that does not want Unicorn milk I have 1 bottle of Cuttwood Sugar Bear in 18mg lowest number on the list gets the first choice. There should be a few extras for late additions. There will be a total of eleven (11) Hobos up for grabs so counting the one back out I should have three(3) up for grabs that aren't spoken for. If those go and you are still interested place your name on the list and maybe you will get lucky but the lowest number on the list takes priority.

Update.
Evidently my screw selection for the Hobo while perfect sized and pitch is going to require different screws. I just researched and found them but this means yet another delay for the Hobo. I'm starting to think I should just PayPal everyone on the list $20 and give up. It would be the cheaper route. But I will make bf Hobos if it bankrupts me! Committed yup, stubborn? No doubt! Frustrated? More than you will ever have to know!
They are coming.
 

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Is there some kind of o-ring (what size) that we can use instead of the thin teflon ring to protect the 510 and allow some squashability?

Rob is and has been working on a Stainless 510 that is adjustable and bulletproof that should be out soon. Please ask him in open forum, we need this yesterday! If enough people ask he will get it off the back burner. Everytime I speak to Rob on the phone he tells me about the new SS 510 and how he gets worn down fixing 510 after 510.

And while I'm on the topic if you are going to send something in to me or Rob or anyone for that matter CLEAN YOUR STUFF BEFORE YOU SEND IT! Word to the wise: if you send something filthy to Rob it will automatically be rebuilt and you will be charged accordingly. If you send it clean he can focus on the real issue and fix only what's needed for less money and faster. Rob won't actually come out and say it in so many words on the forum (Rob is a lot more cordial than I am) but trust me he cares...

Sorry for the rant, not directed at you in any way. Apparently Im in a mood...
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No issue with the rant lol. But for me it's a little different. Rob charges 25 usd for every international order and there is no way I'm paying that much to get my stuff fixed in the future. So i was thinking of being proactive and protect my pin with an oring.

Is the size you mentioned for the pin or the catch cup? I was asking of something to replace the Teflon that goes between the pin and the gasket.
 

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You were talking about the washer/bushing inside the Reo/510? I was talking about a spacer to go between the top of the Reo and the atty. The 510 bushing is REO specific.

Yes inside the reo 510 there are 2 insulators, a gasket and a white washer. The white washer gets squashed easily, that is why i was thinking to replace it with an oring. Your idea is good too. Anyways too much OT :D.
 

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In response to current argument of how to make an atty thread on a Reo:

There seems to be a lot of dis-information floating around about the two possible scenarios
Scenario A: atty bottoms out on the top of the Reo without making contact
Solution: if atty has an adjustable pin (Cyclone, Divo, Mephisto, anything modded with a VA pin) adjust the pin by turning the center pin from the bottom 1/2 turn counter-clockwise. Reinstal to check for progress repeat as necessary.

Scenario B: atty threads on but gets tight BEFORE making contact with the center pin (Mikelu's scenario)
Solution: lubricate the threads on the 510 cup and tighten and loosen the atty a few times checking for conductivity each time once you have conductivity STOP!! If there is ASAP between the atty and the Reo such is life. Find and O-ring or spacer that is the correct depth to take up the gap or just live with it.

Do not under any circumstances continue to turn the atty once it makes contact, this is when bad things happen! I can't stress that enough!
I nor Rob care about your OCD need to have the airhole aligned a certain way or that there is a 1mm gap between your Reo and atty. Sorry to be harsh but this is how 510s are destroyed.

In my not always humble opinion the root issue is the original installation of the 510 cup. Remeber this is a chrome plated brass insert pressed into a correctly sized hole in 6160 aluminum. There are 2 variables at work here. If the hole in the aluminum is drilled with a bit nearing the end of its useable life the hole could be slightly too small due to wear on the flutes of the bit. This will cause the brass of the 510 to squeeze more than it should to fit when pressed in initially.
Result: undersized m7 .5mm threads. Causes scenario B.

Other possibility: if the hole in the aluminum is perfect and the pressing was also perfect another issue can be with the chrome plating itself. The brass insert is threaded first and chromed afterwards, if that plating is even slightly out of spec you will find yourself in scenario B.

Attys also have differing thread tolerances some have very pronounced and sharp threads (anything made in the last year by VA) or less pronounced like the rm2 and a lot of the clones. sharp threads will ultimately give you a better connection and less voltage drop but can be a pain to deal with initially.

In conclusion when you reive a new atty before you install it on your Reo or any other device build a small coil and install it in the deck. Second examine the threads of both the cup and the atty for debris or any other inconsistencies that may cause issues, correct them. Third step thread the atty on to the Reo feeling for tension as soon as you feel tension install the battery into your device and hit the fire button. Did the coil light? If yes stop there and look for a spacer of some sort to take up the remaining gap DO NOT CONTINUE TO TURN THE ATTY!! 510 destruction is certain and a trip back to Reo is eminent.
If it didn't light you will need to figure out why see above which scenario applies and proceed as prescribed above.

I can confirm CH's Scenario B. I built coils and confirmed the atty would fire. The atty would not make contact on the Reo. With CH's suggestion, I juiced the Reo's 510 and screwed the atty tight and backed off, repeating the process about 15 times. It would give about 10-20 degrees with each very firm turn. With each bit of progress, I test fired until the atty fired, after about 3/4 of a turn in progress. I also test fired the atty again on another device during the 3-4 minute process to confirm it would still fire.
 

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I can confirm CH's Scenario B. I built coils and confirmed the atty would fire. The atty would not make contact on the Reo. With CH's suggestion, I juiced the Reo's 510 and screwed the atty tight and backed off, repeating the process about 15 times. It would give about 10-20 degrees with each very firm turn. With each bit of progress, I test fired until the atty fired, after about 3/4 of a turn in progress. I also test fired the atty again on another device during the 3-4 minute process to confirm it would still fire.

Glad you got your device working properly. I wasn't trying to argue with anyone and if I came off that way, I apologize for it. I was just sharing my experience with my REO/atty problem I had. All I did essentially was clean the threads in the 510 connector up. In my scenario it was more like 2-3 full rotations of the atty to get a connection. That is why I did it the way I did.

I am not sure there is an o-ring in existence that could replace the white gasket that Rob uses in the 510 connectors, but i'm sure there is some rubber gasket out there somewhere that is available. O-rings are just too thick. You would have to mic out the original gasket to know what you have to look for though. Rob posted last week that the new SS 510 is still 6-8 weeks out, so it is looking like sometime mid to late December before it will be available and you would have to send your device in to Rob to have it replaced it seems.

On a not so great note, it's official, my atty's have been in Chicago now for a week and still have yet to make their way out of there. I think this is a record for any shipment I have had coming my way...
 

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Never got a pm... But your heap'O attys just moved to the top of my "to do" list for Friday. I still have your Mephisto as well. The Hobos are bleeding my accounts and my sanity I need to do a few attys that aren't bordering on impossible like the Veritas and Hobos for a change.
Lol, I was just getting TheKiwi's attention to see if he still wanted to get rid of his Dark Horse. Wasn't trying to rush ya or anything.

I keep meaning to ask if the Mephisto has adjustable 510 but you just answered above. The tf Mephisto I have does not and it's being a pain on my 100 watt box.
 

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And while I'm on the topic if you are going to send something in to me or Rob or anyone for that matter CLEAN YOUR STUFF BEFORE YOU SEND IT! Word to the wise: if you send something filthy to Rob it will automatically be rebuilt and you will be charged accordingly. If you send it clean he can focus on the real issue and fix only what's needed for less money and faster. Rob won't actually come out and say it in so many words on the forum (Rob is a lot more cordial than I am) but trust me he cares...

Oops! I hope I didn't send you cruddy RDAs, and if so I apologize. Thought I cleaned them all up before packing but wouldn't be the first time I forgot something.
 

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Just got my Veritas. It is made about as well as my original and vapes as well too thanks to Tom. Great job aa usual. If anyone is shying away from this one because they think it may be difficult to build, don't worry about that. While it can be tricky to build dual vertical coils, building a single horizontal coil is a breeze. I stuck an 8 wrap 24 gauge in pretty quickly and it vapes like a dream.


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Oops! I hope I didn't send you cruddy RDAs, and if so I apologize. Thought I cleaned them all up before packing but wouldn't be the first time I forgot something.

Nope not you you. Im sure the guilty parties are aware. If the box is dripping when you send it, it might be a sign.
 

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Nope not you you. Im sure the guilty parties are aware. If the box is dripping when you send it, it might be a sign.
That's a relief! I know I almost forgot to pull an old crusty coil from the Zenith double cross.

And thanks again for the work on all those RDAs! Can't wait to build them all up.
 

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**************Update************

I currently have the following in stock and ready to go:
**authentics**
Vicious Ant Divos $72+ (Only 4 left)
Madz Modz Reactor v2 $55 gone

**Clones**
Magma SS $45+
EHPro Veritas $50+
Black Odin clones
Infinite Plumeveil (no gold)

All bottom fed and ready to ship. "+" $3 for 1st class shipping or $6 for priority. Non domestic 1st class is $10 and non-domestic priority is $20-25. Default shipping is 1st class domestic. If you want or need otherwise please specify.

***Shipping is per shipment. Three attys in the same box pay the "+" once. For example 3 Divos @$72=$216+$3 shipping =$219.*****

First time on this thread, and I haven't read through all 134 pages, but I was told you can buy attys that have already been converted to bottom feed direct instead of sending one in to be modified. Is there a list somewhere of what attys are currently for sale?

Above was the most current list I could find that was posted a few pages back. You can pm Chowderhead to get prices on the ones that don't have one.
 
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