CDC is OK with harm reduction so long it doesn't look like smoking

[DrMA]

http://acsh.org/2015/10/needle-exchanges-cut-hiv-cases-in-washington-dc-study-says/

 

[Kent C]

When it comes to AIDS anything goes - fast track in the FDA. Also some local programs for needle exchange has no limit on age - so minors can also get them - much different for ecigs. Also addicts I see are 'clients'...not the demonization we see.

 

[sofarsogood]

When it comes to AIDS anything goes - fast track in the FDA. Also some local programs for needle exchange has no limit on age - so minors can also get them - much different for ecigs. Also addicts I see are 'clients'...not the demonization we see.

The difference is the government doesn't earn 10s of billions of dollars a year from 'the illicit drug mentioned in the story' like they do from cigarettes. If there were no excise taxes on cigarettes the CDC would love ecigs and the inventor would get the Nobel prize in medicne, which I think he eventually will anyway.

 

[Kent C]

The difference is the government doesn't earn 10s of billions of dollars a year from 'the illicit drug mentioned in the story'

Well they spend that much on it or more and ask for taxes for it. Employees many bureaucrats, swat teams, dea, many local and state police agencies, DARE in schools...

 

[sofarsogood]

Well they spend that much on it or more and ask for taxes for it. Employees many bureaucrats, swat teams, dea, many local and state police agencies, DARE in schools...

Touche! I forgot all about that.

Here in Michigan medical 'herb' is apparently readily available and there is likely to be a ballot initiative soon to legalize recreational use. Are they getting weary of the drug war? I suppose chasing drug dealers is good sport but the whole business ruins a lot of lives by turning people in to criminials who would otherwise probably not be breaking any laws. I've believed for years that the one thing that could start a turnaround in my sad sack city, otherwise known as Detroit, would be to take the profit out of drugs, just put the dealers out of business.

 

[AndriaD]

Touche! I forgot all about that.

Here in Michigan medical 'herb' is apparently readily available and there is likely to be a ballot initiative soon to legalize recreational use. Are they getting weary of the drug war? I suppose chasing drug dealers is good sport but the whole business ruins a lot of lives by turning people in to criminials who would otherwise probably not be breaking any laws. I've believed for years that the one thing that could start a turnaround in my sad sack city, otherwise known as Detroit, would be to take the profit out of drugs, just put the dealers out of business.

I agree -- if all drugs were legal, Survival of the Fittest would apply, and all the really stupid would get dead in a hurry. Problem solved.

Andria

 

[Kent C]

Touche! I forgot all about that.

Here in Michigan medical 'herb' is apparently readily available and there is likely to be a ballot initiative soon to legalize recreational use. Are they getting weary of the drug war? I suppose chasing drug dealers is good sport but the whole business ruins a lot of lives by turning people in to criminials who would otherwise probably not be breaking any laws. I've believed for years that the one thing that could start a turnaround in my sad sack city, otherwise known as Detroit, would be to take the profit out of drugs, just put the dealers out of business.

Similar initiative here except there's two of them. Just like when they banned cigarettes - one is yes, one is no and people got confused on the cigarette ban - it passed slightly. I figure it's a common ploy and it is used for the upcoming election as well for Herb :- )

Like any other big city, Detroit won't change no matter what is done. It's the politics and that won't change in big cities. Toledo will follow Detroit. We always have, but Cleveland will likely go first.

 

[nicnik]

Similar initiative here except there's two of them. Just like when they banned cigarettes - one is yes, one is no and people got confused on the cigarette ban - it passed slightly. I figure it's a common ploy and it is used for the upcoming election as well for Herb :- )

Most politicians seem to try to earn votes by confusing voters, but the wording of some referendums look like conspiracies attempting to confuse voters with what "Yes" and "No" mean. Likely thought up by the same political minds that gave us "Just say no" re drugs, and "No means no" re date rape.

 

[Kent C]

Most politicians seem to try to earn votes by confusing voters, but the wording of some referendums look like conspiracies attempting to confuse voters with what "Yes" and "No" mean. Likely thought up by the same political minds that gave us "Just say no" re drugs, and "No means no" re date rape.

I appreciate the attempt to use the 'yes/no' aspect but it's a stretch to apply it to 'just say no' wrt drugs and rape where it actually does mean 'no'. This isn't like that. The fact that there are two issues about the same basic subject is what is confusing, and for those promoting it say 'Yes on 2 and No on 3' (and have it on bumper stickers), because the language is confusing for most. (of course, those against are saying 'No on 2 and Yes on 3' lol..)