CE3's: Am I doing it wrong?

[Vidi]

So I picked up a couple boxes of CE3's from a brick and mirror store that recently opened up near me.

I went to fill them and the juice just leaks out the battery end until I get the tiny tiny tiny plug in and seated properly.

Good vapor production, decent taste but no warm vapor like I'm used to.


So is the leaking normal? Any solutions?

And what other surprises do these things have in store for me?

 

[lewstherin69]

usually theres a bottom cap to keep em from leaking out,just cap em before pulling the top plug out to keep em from leking out all over. the plug creates a vacuum to keep the juice in the res. as far as warm vapor i dont have any issues with TH with my eGo-T Mega XL from myvaporstore.com

 

[pyro13g]

There should be a rubbery cap in the packaging with the drip tip. If not, you need to seal the battery end when filling. They leave that out in the directions. Which Ohm rating did you buy? We can help you warm it up if we know that and the voltage you are vaping at.

 

[Vidi]

Ooooooooooh! The light just went on in my head. Yes, there was an extra plug. As I immediately dropped the plug attached to the -mizer, I just assumed duuuuh cool thanks.

I'm using an ego 1000 passthrough battery ( 3.7 ) and I picked up the 2.4 -mizers. ( I've been avoiding LR attys until I purchase a provari next month. I've had AlOT of very bad luck with LRs lately. They've cost me a fortune in battery replacements )

 

[Cyclin]

Ooooooooooh! The light just went on in my head. Yes, there was an extra plug. As I immediately dropped the plug attached to the -mizer, I just assumed duuuuh cool thanks.

I'm using an ego 1000 passthrough battery ( 3.7 ) and I picked up the 2.4 -mizers. ( I've been avoiding LR attys until I purchase a provari next month. I've had AlOT of very bad luck with LRs lately. They've cost me a fortune in battery replacements )

This thread totally helped me right now with my leaking problems. I don't think I had used the cap once yet haha and it leaked when I was re-filling.

I too haven't had much luck with the LR on my 1000mah pass through ego battery, except I'm waiting on a lava tube to come this month rather than a provari. Can't spend that much on a mod til at least my 6-month point I think.

 

[hairball]

Are the CE3's and the Smokeymizers the same things? Just wanted to know. It's been a long time since I fiddled with stuff like that and got out of the game.

 

[Cyclin]

Are the CE3's and the Smokeymizers the same things? Just wanted to know. It's been a long time since I fiddled with stuff like that and got out of the game.

Yup as far as I know

 

[Cyclin]

I really love these cartos. Except for my filling leak this thread solved, I have had no complaints. Great vapor production, smooth, clean flavor, really brought out the fruity berry flavors in my DIY juice over the standard attys.

 

[hairball]

Yup as far as I know

Okay then, I'm not interested. The smokeys have been shorting ego batteries like nobody's business. I think I'll stick with what I'm using. Thanks for the info.

 

[Killjoy1]

When filling CE3's, try doing it while holding the carto horizontally and don't tip it up until you get the bung in place. This method has worked for me, even without putting a carto condom on the battery end (though this is also a good option)

 

[Rothman]

Killjoy, do you run these on your Darwin? That's what I plan to do, I'm just slightly scared to short it out. Any problems?

 

[pyro13g]

Okay then, I'm not interested. The smokeys have been shorting ego batteries like nobody's business. I think I'll stick with what I'm using. Thanks for the info.

I'd like to hear the reasoning why anyone thinks a piece of wire is killing their batteries. That could happen with any piece of wire(coil) Hopefully someone was thinking and put the CE3 on an Ohm meter after their batteries blew. Should my ego or standard 510 batts die on a CE3, 6 months of CE3 use and no problems, I'll throw it on a meter and see.

 

[Vidi]

Update:

By using the "condom" on the connection end, I have been able to keep the CE3 from leaking while filling. BUT, juice keeps coming up the "straw" in the middle during use. This causes juice to become trapped between the drip tip and the plug area ( which should just be empty space ) I've noticed performance loss when the juice fills that area, so Inpop the drip tip off and push a paper towel in there to clean it up. Five to ten minutes later, that area is full of juice again.

Anyone else experience this? Any solutions?

 

[Vidi]

I'd like to hear the reasoning why anyone thinks a piece of wire is killing their batteries. That could happen with any piece of wire(coil) Hopefully someone was thinking and put the CE3 on an Ohm meter after their batteries blew. Should my ego or standard 510 batts die on a CE3, 6 months of CE3 use and no problems, I'll throw it on a meter and see.

For me it was when the LR Attys I was using would go crazy that killed my batteries. They would check in the hundreds on my voltmeter. Crazy thing was they would check at 1.5-1.8 I would use them for about ten fifteen minutes then BAM dead battery. Recheck atty with volt meter at it said 128!?!

Since switching the the CE3's I haven't lost a single eGo battery.

( I recently upgraded to the ProVari, but the wife is still on eGo batteries using CE3's )

 

[Jim Bob]

Okay then, I'm not interested. The smokeys have been shorting ego batteries like nobody's business. I think I'll stick with what I'm using. Thanks for the info.

Same here!

 

[Jim Bob]

I'd like to hear the reasoning why anyone thinks a piece of wire is killing their batteries. That could happen with any piece of wire(coil) Hopefully someone was thinking and put the CE3 on an Ohm meter after their batteries blew. Should my ego or standard 510 batts die on a CE3, 6 months of CE3 use and no problems, I'll throw it on a meter and see.

Well it's far from some isolated incidents, not worth the risk/expense IMO

There are obvious issues with them at this point, too many other good alternatives in my view to use them

 

[pyro13g]

Update:

By using the "condom" on the connection end, I have been able to keep the CE3 from leaking while filling. BUT, juice keeps coming up the "straw" in the middle during use. This causes juice to become trapped between the drip tip and the plug area ( which should just be empty space ) I've noticed performance loss when the juice fills that area, so Inpop the drip tip off and push a paper towel in there to clean it up. Five to ten minutes later, that area is full of juice again.

Anyone else experience this? Any solutions?

Normal and explained on the direction card if you received one. ~150 puffs will result in condensation under the drip tip, Remove tip and shake the access away.

And in my eyes, the CE3 killing batteries is just a coincidence/only the ones people are talking about. No ones offered any reasonable explanation of why they would, or what the defect could possibly be. It could easily be the pv and it's circuitry that is the problem.

 

[Vidi]

Normal and explained on the direction card if you received one. ~150 puffs will result in condensation under the drip tip, Remove tip and shake the access away.

And in my eyes, the CE3 killing batteries is just a coincidence/only the ones people are talking about. No ones offered any reasonable explanation of why they would, or what the defect could possibly be. It could easily be the pv and it's circuitry that is the problem.

No this is not condensation. I can't see the juice moving up the little tube in the center. Condensation is expected. This isnt that.

As to the reasonable explaination it's the MOSFET ( is that what it's called? ) in the battery. The atty ( any atty ) shorts out and kills the battery. I had the issue with LR attys. I went through $100 worth of eGo batteries in month. It's why I upgraded to the ProVari. Better protection circuits should prevent the expense of battery replacement.

 

[Killjoy1]

Killjoy, do you run these on your Darwin? That's what I plan to do, I'm just slightly scared to short it out. Any problems?

Yes, I've used them on my Darwin. I haven't had any shorting issues with them at all, on that or any other device

One possible cause for the occasional shorts that I saw posted elsewhere was the fact that the early editions of the CE3s had very thin insulation in the connector and a theory was that some of these insulating bits may have had a small tear, which when tightened down onto a battery would allow the center post to short to the negative. I don't know how accurate the theory is, but supposedly the manufacturer has been looking into it (as of several months ago)


Vidi, I also had some issues with juice getting into the center tube (this is in addition to the condensation). It wasn't enough to really worry about (just a quick mop up under the mouthpiece once or twice per fill was enough to keep from getting juice in my mouth), but did start to happen after the first couple of fills for me. I have had this problem with the other bottom-coil style cartos, as well, but far less on the Smokeys than on the others.

 

[pyro13g]

No this is not condensation. I can't see the juice moving up the little tube in the center. Condensation is expected. This isnt that.

As to the reasonable explaination it's the MOSFET ( is that what it's called? ) in the battery. The atty ( any atty ) shorts out and kills the battery. I had the issue with LR attys. I went through $100 worth of eGo batteries in month. It's why I upgraded to the ProVari. Better protection circuits should prevent the expense of battery replacement.

Juice/Condensation is normal in the air tube also if that is what you're seeing. I watch this happen all the time in the air tube. Makes sense too. You are drawing in through the air tube so of course it kinda makes sense for juice to pull up into it. There is a bit of room in the cup at the coil end for liquid to pool in. When that pull is gone, it also makes sense for it to fall back into the cup with the coil. There are three holes in this tank at the coil. The hole the wick goes through, the air tube, and vent hole back into the tank. If you get enough condensation at the mouth piece it will get pulled into the air tube as the pressure in the system tries to equalize.

I watch it fall down the air tube and at the same time bubbles enter the tank through the vent. If it gurgles I give it a flick to get it out of the mouth piece. Sometimes it just ends up in my mouth. And no more juice in the tube. I think the little ridge for the air tube at the mouth piece is just to shallow. I have some air tube from CE3's I've destroyed so I may experiment with getting it into the air tube and extend it up a little bit and then pack some fill around it to soak up condensation.