Cessation Tool?

[cherrypopwizkid]

I understand e-cigs are not, or can not be, marketed as a smoking cessation tool but I thought of one possible way in which they might work for that, does this make sense?

When you quit smoking you have a lot of withdrawl symptoms but they are not all caused by nicotine, some are caused by the loss of all the other toxins in your body produced by cigarette smoke.

New vampers report sometimes having those same symptoms because the only active chemical with addictive properties in the e-cig is nicotine.

It would seem to me getting off one drug would be easier than getting off 20. If you used an e-cig to keep the nicotine craving in check which makes things a bit less painful while the other toxins leave the body wouldn't it be a lot easier afterwards to quit nicotine as well? It would seem you'd have a shorter list of symptoms to compete with, not to mention the added bonus of using 0mg carts to get you through the oral fixation and psychological attachment.

Does this sound feesable?

 

[Tugger]

There are plenty of people here who claim to have done just that.

 

[BadSeed]

It certainly does sound feasible. It does make it much easier. e-cigs can't be advertised for that purpose though as the required clinical trials haven't been done.

 

[Frankie]

It would seem to me getting off one drug would be easier than getting off 20.

It yould, kif they all were addictive, which they are not. The addictive drug in tobacco is nicotine.

If you used an e-cig to keep the nicotine craving in check which makes things a bit less painful while the other toxins leave the body wouldn't it be a lot easier afterwards to quit nicotine as well?

Not really. The first three days still are hell and the symptoms subside very, very slowly. And you do not have the added value of feeling how you can better breathe, taste, smell... Because you enjoyed all of that when you went to vaping from smoking initially.

It would seem you'd have a shorter list of symptoms to compete with, not to mention the added bonus of using 0mg carts to get you through the oral fixation and psychological attachment.

The symptoms when you stop long and heavy addiction are generally the same notwithstanding the delivery route of the drug you were using immediately before quitting.

E-cigs are perfect tool to stop smoking. They can provide you with a safer alternative for delivering the drug. If you want to fight nicotine addiction, though, do not expect much help from them.

At least such is my experience. You might be different, although addictions seems to manifest rather similarly for most people

 

[harmony gardens]

Nice post, Frankie.

I am definately vaping to get off nicotine. For me, it's still requiring a bit of willpower to keep from lighting up. I had been clock watching, and going for longer periods between cigarettes, for a couple months before I started vaping, but that was hard.

The first day I got my ecig, I only had two analogs, and I've been having one or two each day since I've been vaping.

My stategy is to go without smoking any cigs, then slowly cut down the nicotine. Kicking nicotine addiction messes with your body and your head. The coolest thing about vaping is that you get to be in control of the entire process. I'm convinced that vaping is the best path to getting off nicotine that's available to us.

The other cool thing about vaping is,,, if you dont want to get off the addiction, you can keep it without hurting anyone else around you.

Personally, I think vaping takes nicotine addiction down to a level of danger that's about equal to the danger of coffee to a caffine addict.

 

[cherrypopwizkid]

Nice post, Frankie.

I am definately vaping to get off nicotine. For me, it's still requiring a bit of willpower to keep from lighting up. I had been clock watching, and going for longer periods between cigarettes, for a couple months before I started vaping, but that was hard.

The first day I got my ecig, I only had two analogs, and I've been having one or two each day since I've been vaping.

My stategy is to go without smoking any cigs, then slowly cut down the nicotine. Kicking nicotine addiction messes with your body and your head. The coolest thing about vaping is that you get to be in control of the entire process. I'm convinced that vaping is the best path to getting off nicotine that's available to us.

The other cool thing about vaping is,,, if you dont want to get off the addiction, you can keep it without hurting anyone else around you.

Personally, I think vaping takes nicotine addiction down to a level of danger that's about equal to the danger of coffee to a caffine addict.

Frankie did bring up good points. I had forgotten to take the benifits that come with cessation (return of ofactory and taste specifically) into consideration.

Quitting through gradual reduction in my experince is the worst approach. Basically, your telling your body you still get nicotine, just not enough. Ever been really really thirsty and only had a sip of something? Did you eventually learn to not be thirsty?

Probably a bad example because if you discontinue nicotine use entirely you will gradually reduce cravings. Physical side effects last about three days on average but the psychological can be much worse. (For me, most physical symptoms were gone on day two, but again the psychological symptoms are far more potent.)

For this reason a 0mg e-cig might actually come in handy. I think it could, possibly, fill the gap left from an emmotional attachment to smoking.

 

[cherrypopwizkid]

It yould, kif they all were addictive, which they are not. The addictive drug in tobacco is nicotine.

Yes thats true, I used the wrong qualifier. Nicotine is addictive. I wanted to say the other additives create a dependency. In the sense that without them, the body doesn't function the way the smoker considers 'normal' for a period of time.

I wonder about individual symptoms. One I've always been interested in is that smoking tends to alter insulin and blood sugar levels. The drop in blood sugar when you quit is one of the primary causes of several symptoms. Headaches, light headedness, irritability. I learned during my one successful quit that fruit juice helps a lot in replacing blood sugar which reduces these symptoms during the quit.

I wonder if its the nicotine, or another tobacco bi-product that causes the blood sugar levels to change. If it is the nicotine this should not be a common symptom for people who go cold turkey on analogs and only use there e-cig (provided they are vaping the right amount.)

 

[Letzin Hale]

Nice post, Frankie.

I am definately vaping to get off nicotine. For me, it's still requiring a bit of willpower to keep from lighting up. I had been clock watching, and going for longer periods between cigarettes, for a couple months before I started vaping, but that was hard.

The first day I got my ecig, I only had two analogs, and I've been having one or two each day since I've been vaping.

My stategy is to go without smoking any cigs, then slowly cut down the nicotine. Kicking nicotine addiction messes with your body and your head. The coolest thing about vaping is that you get to be in control of the entire process. I'm convinced that vaping is the best path to getting off nicotine that's available to us.

The other cool thing about vaping is,,, if you dont want to get off the addiction, you can keep it without hurting anyone else around you.

Personally, I think vaping takes nicotine addiction down to a level of danger that's about equal to the danger of coffee to a caffine addict.

Don't try too hard as that puts you under pressure and creates more 'need' for a fix. Try relaxing a little and just go with vaping for a while. Get some aerobic exercise, you don't have to prance around in your spandex leotard, just walking or swimming is good to get things moving. There is no fear of failure because you have already become a winner, smile to yourself and feel how good that is. If you want to go zero then try it when you feel cool about it. The biggest shock I had when going zero was the total lack of withdrawal symptoms; I felt like I had been conned by the 'nicotine more addictive than ......' tenet, but I also felt complete freedom from the nic, what a rush!! I still have some cravings but they are easily satisfied by the zero; inhaling, throat hit (albeit now much milder) are enough and I probably vape more for other people now than for myself! My biggest question now is why do the 'scientists' not realise that nicotine is a con?! I reckon we (including the scientists) have been psychologically hoodwinked for too long.
Alan.

 

[firhill]

There are also habits involved as well as addictions, such as..


1) The need to "have a smoke" after a meal
2) Just the simple motion of raisng and lowering the cigarette to the mouth

..are just two habits that vaping satisfies for me.

 

[cherrypopwizkid]

Don't try too hard as that puts you under pressure and creates more 'need' for a fix. Try relaxing a little and just go with vaping for a while. Get some aerobic exercise, you don't have to prance around in your spandex leotard, just walking or swimming is good to get things moving. There is no fear of failure because you have already become a winner, smile to yourself and feel how good that is. If you want to go zero then try it when you feel cool about it. The biggest shock I had when going zero was the total lack of withdrawal symptoms; I felt like I had been conned by the 'nicotine more addictive than ......' tenet, but I also felt complete freedom from the nic, what a rush!! I still have some cravings but they are easily satisfied by the zero; inhaling, throat hit (albeit now much milder) are enough and I probably vape more for other people now than for myself! My biggest question now is why do the 'scientists' not realise that nicotine is a con?! I reckon we (including the scientists) have been psychologically hoodwinked for too long.
Alan.

I don't beleive nicotine is a con. every quit is different. i don't just mean every persons quit but even one person who has quit several times tends to find each quit may have very different symptoms and lengths. Actually an easy or symptomless quit can be dangerous because it creates the 'If its that easy I could just quit any time I want' mentality, and your right back to smoking again.

Plus, as I said, psychological withdraw is far more wrenching and long lasting than physical withdrawl, and your psychological withdrawl was fullfilled by the vaporizer.

P.S. The logo banner for this site at the very top of the page...does that face freak anyone else out? Am I looking at it wrong or is it actually that freaky? It looks like its missing parts, like something from 'The Grudge' is helping itself to an e-cig. Maybe its just how I'm looking at it.