Cgr18650ch in a natural???

[kraus0526]

Is it safe to use a Panasonic cgr18650ch in a mech mod like a natural?

 

[Oktyabr]

I run them in my sigelei mechanical. Great battery! "Safe"? YMMV.

 

[kraus0526]

just checking, i saw a bit of an argument over the safety of them in mech mods on another forum and was getting a little worried seeing as i just ordered on for my natural and one for my svd.

 

[Oktyabr]

I've been rotating four of them (along with a pair of Smok 2800 mah 18650s) between my Vamo and my Sig #8 for a few weeks now. Never a problem in either device... and I vape a LOT.

If you've read detailed threads on them you know they are a "hybrid" chemistry that is supposed to be "safer" than regular Li-Ion but also not technically a true "Li-Mn" (IMR) either. They are also a "high drain" battery and from all the threads I read before I bought them, one of the better batteries you can buy.

More information here:

http://www.orbtronic.com/batteries-...tton-top-high-drain-battery-cell-li-mn-li-ion

 

[xbassman]

The main thing you need to be aware of using these in a mech are (1) no short protection and (2) no low voltage protection.
So, if you feel your battery getting hot disassemble and if your vape getting weak charge it.

 

[Rader2146]

It's is a great battery rated for 10amp discharge. They have a spotless safety record and will stand up to a lot of abuse. As always, a battery is only a safe as the end user, so you need to know what your setup is going to be asking from the battery. I run my CGR's with a .5Ω IGO-L on a Sig #8 at nearly 8 amps. The drip tip is the only thing that ever gets warm.

Unless I missed something of a major catastrophe (that somehow hasnt been posted on this forum), worries of it's safety are likely unfounded assumptions. These batteries are VERY popular and I havent seen a single report of failure outside of blatant abuse (intentional short that resulted in undercharge/no charge condition...no venting).

 

[Fury83]

It's my preferred battery in mech's. A shortstop or vape safe is not a bad idea if you are using an rba.

 

[Rader2146]

I'm not saying that a fuse is a bad thing, it is certainly a good thing if you want the additional layer of safety. But for many mech/rba users it will be a show stopper.

The PTC fuse used in the VapeSafe2 is rated for a hold current of 3.5 A, which means that it can carry a continuous current of 3.5 A safely without tripping. Its trip current is rated at 6A, which means that it is guaranteed to trip if 6 A or more is passed through it. If a current between 3.5 and 6 amps is passed through the VapeSafe2, it will trip after an indeterminate amount of time (typically 5-10 seconds or more)

The Shortstop is slightly more lenient...

The time it takes to intervene depends on how much current the battery is pumping through it, if you exceed 5 amps by a large margin it will react much faster than if you only go slightly over 5 amps. Using the standard test that ANSI/NFPA 70 (the national electrical code) specifies, it will limit 8 amperes within 5 seconds starting from an ambient temperature of about 77 degrees Fahrenheit ( 23 degrees Celsius ), however at 10 amperes, it will intervene in about 1 second under the same conditions.

Both quotes are directly from the manufactures site.

If you prefer low ohm/high current setups, you might have to dial it back a little to add that layer of safety. My only reason for posting this is to save a potential buyer a little coin and a bit of headache before finding that his setup it too much for a fuse.