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New to the vaping world. Started less then a week ago. 9-11 and loving the fact I haven't smoked a cig since!!! BUT here's my problem I'm going threw coils way to fast. What can I do? Do I need different mod? Different tank? Or a different coil brand? My set up is the Vamo V5 with the nautilus adjustable airflow tank. I love the set up, but tomm will be 1 week and I've had to change the coil 4 times already and now in the morning I'm needing to go change it AGAIAN! so I'm guessing it's because I'm a chain vapor?? Maybe lol!! What do I or can I do? Needing help ASAP
 

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some more info would be helpful, but it sounds like it could be a couple of things.
1. youre using a high vg [thick] juice, and its gunking up those coils like crazy.
2. you have your wattage [or voltage] set too high on your vamo.
silica wick doesnt burn, but it can develop a nasty tatse when its too hot for too long.

also, the combination of those two things is a coil killer.

if you can reply with some more info, i can try to help further.

- DMB
 

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New to the vaping world. Started less then a week ago. 9-11 and loving the fact I haven't smoked a cig since!!! BUT here's my problem I'm going threw coils way to fast. What can I do? Do I need different mod? Different tank? Or a different coil brand? My set up is the Vamo V5 with the nautilus adjustable airflow tank. I love the set up, but tomm will be 1 week and I've had to change the coil 4 times already and now in the morning I'm needing to go change it AGAIAN! so I'm guessing it's because I'm a chain vapor?? Maybe lol!! What do I or can I do? Needing help ASAP
It may be the Ejuice you vape; dark Ejuice ruins coils. Also, check the omhs of your coils. Get a higher ohm coil if you can. I love my Aerotanks, regular and mini. The coils last me at least a week. You can try a gentle dry burn, check out how to do it on YouTube.
 

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Hello
I use 100% Vg with a dual coil kanger3 on a SVD set at 3.7Vt and my coils last over a month .
I've never had any coil last a month, and I've been vaping a long time. A lot depends on the eliquid your vaping; a clear, non sweet juice is easiest on coils. I love some dark sweet ejuices and still get at least a week out of a coil.
 

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New to the vaping world. Started less then a week ago. 9-11 and loving the fact I haven't smoked a cig since!!! BUT here's my problem I'm going threw coils way to fast. What can I do? Do I need different mod? Different tank? Or a different coil brand? My set up is the Vamo V5 with the nautilus adjustable airflow tank. I love the set up, but tomm will be 1 week and I've had to change the coil 4 times already and now in the morning I'm needing to go change it AGAIAN! so I'm guessing it's because I'm a chain vapor?? Maybe lol!! What do I or can I do? Needing help ASAP
Another thing: B&M stores are expensive on coils. I buy mine from Sweet Vapes and pay very little.
 

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New to the vaping world. Started less then a week ago. 9-11 and loving the fact I haven't smoked a cig since!!! BUT here's my problem I'm going threw coils way to fast. What can I do? Do I need different mod? Different tank? Or a different coil brand? My set up is the Vamo V5 with the nautilus adjustable airflow tank. I love the set up, but tomm will be 1 week and I've had to change the coil 4 times already and now in the morning I'm needing to go change it AGAIAN! so I'm guessing it's because I'm a chain vapor?? Maybe lol!! What do I or can I do? Needing help ASAP
One more tip; try a Kanger Aerotank V2 with your Vamo, or even the Aerotank Mega. The coils are cheaper than Nautilus- that's why I don't own a Nautilus tank.
 
I also, would love to know when and how to change the coils! The only advice that I have been given is to change the coils when they start to develope a burnt taste, I've been using my current automizer for about less than three weeks now and have not yet changed my coils. However, as much as I would love to, I have yet to quit smoking regular cigarettes 100%. So I tend to substitute my e-smoking with real smoking. Could this be why I am not using up my coils as quickly as others?
 
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Hi all! I am new to e-cigarettes and new to this forum! I would love to be able to quit smoking "regular" cigarettes - mostly for health issues. I find though, that I tend to cough more when smoking my e-cigarettes, than when smoking regular brand smoking. Is this normal? I also tend to love the fruity flavors!! Could that be part of the reason why I have yet to completely give up my 40 plus year habit? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Linda
 

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Hi all! I am new to e-cigarettes and new to this forum! I would love to be able to quit smoking "regular" cigarettes - mostly for health issues. I find though, that I tend to cough more when smoking my e-cigarettes, than when smoking regular brand smoking. Is this normal? I also tend to love the fruity flavors!! Could that be part of the reason why I have yet to completely give up my 40 plus year habit? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Linda

Hello, my experience when I started vaping was that I coughed also, I would vape a bit, then smoke a cig, then vape a bit etc. Everytime I vaped I would cough, luckily I only had 10 cigs left, and when I ran out and only vaped the cough went away pretty quickly. 100% vg liquid also tickles my lungs and makes me cough sometimes, it's not harsh, but the best way I can think of to describe it is it "tickles".

Why don't you start your own thread and let everyone know what your vaping with and I'm sure you'll get some good answers, and that way the original posters thread here doesn't get bogged down with unrelated content and others will see your questions.
 

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Hi all! I am new to e-cigarettes and new to this forum! I would love to be able to quit smoking "regular" cigarettes - mostly for health issues. I find though, that I tend to cough more when smoking my e-cigarettes, than when smoking regular brand smoking. Is this normal? I also tend to love the fruity flavors!! Could that be part of the reason why I have yet to completely give up my 40 plus year habit? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Linda

Some advice I tell every new vaper.

1) I ask how many cigarettes you smoked on a regular day. So to guage this, these are figures for someone that smokes full flavors and such. 3+ Pack a day full flavor your nicotine level should be around 36mg first couple weeks, 1 1/2 to 2 packs full flavor probably start on a 24mg, pack a day full flavor 18mg to start, full pack of lights or 10 full flavor a day 12mg, etc.
2) High stress situations, after eat, waking up, going to bed try vaping first, if urge is still strongly there, try smoking 1/3 to 1/2 regular stinkies. Do not feel each of these is a defeat, think of every cig you did not have to smoke as a victory.
3) Keep hydrated, especially drink lots of water, teas and green teas highly suggested most the day (drinking lots of tea signals the body to go into purge mode), and lots of juices as well, decrease your coffee and/or soda intake the first couple weeks
4) Do not feel discouraged if you still smoke the first couple of weeks to first six weeks while still vaping, there are other toxins and such in regular stinkies most liquids do not have in them, so you will still have symptoms of withdrawals while your body purges these toxins and such, eventually you will get there to where you look at a cig, spark up a cig, and finally go ewwwwwwww, BLEH, thats it I'm tired of those nasty tasting things.
5) A couple types of liquids to look at trying as your all day vape the first little while - Caramel, Vanilla, A Chocolate, or Coffee. They do make tobaccoish flavors, but there is a method to the madness involved suggesting before mentioned ones or a good RY4 Tobacco. Tobacco leaf goes into processing in several steps, 4 of these are a sugar water bath, vanilla water bath, caramel water bath, and a chocolate or cocoa water bath, like brewing an ale or beer, the sugars promote more nicotine out of the leaf before drying. RY4 Tobacco liquids have a caramel, vanilla, tobacco, and nut tones in their profiles, with regular stinkies, you do not most times taste the vanilla and such still in the leaf during combustion, but sometimes I did, especially during winter months would get 1 maybe 4 cigs in a pack that first light up tasted sweet, but I seen why when I researched tobacco processing when first quitting and started vaping, though consciously you do not detect these tones normally, the subconscious does and having those tones in a liquid you are vaping, tricks your subconscious cues. Keep your fruity flavors in rotation along with your all day vape flavor(s), as treat flavors, or change up flavors, as more sweet and mellow flavors you tend to get dulled on them quicker than a sweet, fruity, sharp flavor. Citric flavors (lemon, orange, grapefruit), cinnamons, spearmints, and cuccumber flavors a lot of times also help when you get what we call vape tongue (vapers fatigue) due to their acidic natures or other properties, they can re-awaken tired taste buds as well as tastebuds newly forming due to no longer under an acid wash bath of hot, caustic, destructive chemicals found in cig smoke.
6) You are having to retrain your brain, and 40+ years smoking habit, that is going to take time and patience.
7) Keep your hands occupied when idle, even if that means keeping your e-cig in you hand at all times fiddling with it or such, idle time is a test time for someone trying to quit
8) The coughing when vaping. There are several things going on in vaping that cause this. One most notably, nicotine strength, higher the nicotine content, the harder the punch as vaping delivers nicotine a bit more efficiently than smoking, though lower in percentage per volume compare to a cig, you are going to sense it and have to get accustomed to it. Second, propylene glycol (pg) also adds to the nicotine content kick, though viscuous to an extent, it is similar to an alcohol or sorts (but is not an alcohol), thus it transports flavor real well, and gives a chemically sensation. Third, PG and vegatable glycerin (VG the second base suspension fluid in the liquids we use, this gives the most vapor compared to pg) both are dehumicants, they bond to moisture to help create more vapor, so if after several vapes you get cotton mouth, these 2 liquids are doing the same in you throat and lungs, thus why it is suggested to keep hydrated. Fourth reason, your body, especially your lungs, are trying to eject the toxins of cig smoke out of itself, do not know if you are coughing up any of this, but if you do or are, do not be alarmed, a lot of people experience it, I did when I first started vaping, it is just your body adjusting to new conditions. Suggestion, moment after a couple vapes you experience the tickle that preceeds coughing, take a drink of something to sooth irritated areas before continuing to vape, get onto google and search for pipe smoking circular breathing technique. Basic principle is a slow, gentle, gradual draw into the mouth, then without inhaling, exhaling through the nose, this technique is especially effective in vaping, decreases throat and lung irritation, and, only 5% of e-cig nicotine is absorbed in the lungs, the other 95% is absorbed in the mouth and sinuses.

Sorry for the lengthy reply, but there is a lot of information that should be portrayed, an informed new vaper ex-smoker that runs into difficulties is a frustrated vaper going back to smoking smoker, a lot to take in the first weeks to months, but there is a lot of information on the internet, here and other forums, youtube, etc, your most valuable vaping tool in your arsenal is your computer you are sitting in front of, and I myself believe the motto, the only stupid question is the one not asked ;). Good luck on your journey, and I hope I helped you in someway, as well as any other new member reading this.

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Several variables can affect this OP

1) Sweetness of liquid. Sweeteners tend to crystalized up in the wick clogging it up, sweeter the liquid, quicker the wick burns out
2) Darkness of the liquid. Like Sweeteners, the dyes that are darkening up the liquid, also crystalize and clog things up
3) Thickness of the liquid. Like 1 and 2 above, thicker (more VG) in the liquid the quicker the wick clogs up as this VG residue accumulates (most clearomizers/cartomizers/cartomizer tanks are designed for a maximum viscosity of a 30pg/70vg or 20pg/80vg, but optimal is a 50/50 40pg/60vg 60pg/40vg 70pg/30vg)
4) Resistance of the coil and temperature (voltage) being applied to the coil. Cooler the vape the longer a wick will last, higher resistance coils on standard output batteries (eg. ego class 3.7v output) with a 1.5 ohm coil will burn hotter and burn out quicker than a 2.5 ohm coil which will burn cooler and last longer, on a Variable Voltage/Variable Wattage device resistance plays less a role as the throttle as the user can floor the throttle (crank the voltage up) or let off the gas (crank the voltage down), hotter you are cooking, quicker the wick is going to burn out.
5) How often and how long you hit your device (keep it on to take a vape) frequency of puffing, analogy (wick is good for 300 10 second puffs, or 800 half 5 second puffs), sometimes double clutching, take a 5 second puff, let off the power to inhale, then take a second 5 second puff right after inhale can actually extend the life of the coil as ramp it up to top temp for a short pulse, let off, coil cools just a bit during inhale, then a second pulse the coil will a lot of times be closer to top temp to burn off these variables above to vaporize them more efficiently than keeping the throttle floored the entire time. This is a technique I have used for a long time with my tanks wether on an ego, mech, or VV/VW device even with my own Nautilus I get about a week to week and a half on the coils with a 30pg/70vg juice.
 
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IMFire3605,

I appreciated your response! More than you can ever know!! All I get when I go into our local Vap Shops - is you need this, that and the other! You've given me more advice than anyone else. I have been a 2+ a pack a day smoker for the most part of the 40 years. Maybe I've tried to drop to quickly, bit I like the taste I get from the 18mgs e-flavors! I have some Mocha flavored, and will try more of that! I also tend to mix my flavors - so it's hard to say if I am truely using 18 mg. I tend to mix some of the stronger flavors like my 24 mg Bubble gum, with 0% vanilla or root beer! I'm using an itazte vv battery which I love, but I've noticed it has been doing some strange things while charging at night! Like blinking red to orange to green, or orange to green all night! Could this be of my fear of changing the coils? The Atomizer I am now using is an "Aspire BDC" which is the first one that I have purchased that seems to be idiot proof - which is something I was in definite need for! I had tried the Mini KangerTech II (V1) , but found that every time I would change the coil in it, I would break off a piece of the coil in the base, and had a lot of trouble getting it out. Wish me luck as I shall try to change my coils in my new Aspire today!! Hopefully (yes, I was once a blonde), this will result in a rather easy fix for me!!

I had been running my battery on a "U3.8" - like I said earlier, I have gotten more information after posting my initial post here than I have from any store, so I'm not sure if that has anything to do with the heat than I'm running or not. The first store that I had gone into had told me that the fruitier the 3-juice the lower the heat I should use, and the breadier or baked goods flavor should run on the higher heat. I don't even know for sure if the (U3.3) is the heat or not. I only know that that is as low as my battery will go. I do get a "A 1.9" and a "U4.1" when at the hotter (?) heat. I have no idea what the "A" or the "U" stand for or if either one has to do with the temperature. I have noticed that I hate the taste of a "stinkie," but find it hard to quit with a house where my partner smokes like a chimney and when my daughter comes to "visit" that when both of them are here my stinkie cigarette smoking increases! I do limit myself to when I can smoke a Stinkie and when I can't!! I cross stitch, I refuse to smoke while working on a project and I also don't smoke when I'm playing my facebook games on my phone! I have no problem smoking only my e-cig then! I LOVE MY E-CIG!! And would prefer to smoke it only! So, in case you haven't noticed, I tend to ask a lot of questions. I'm sorry if I have repeated some that others may have asked earlier! I fell a year ago - shattering my L-1 vertebra and it's coming up on the one year anniversary of my third (and hopefully) last surgery. I never should have started back up when I got out of the hospital, but (hanging head in shame), but I did!!

The one thing that I have now that I didn't have then was the willingness to give it up! Now with the price of regular smokes going nothing but up, and facing the fact that my working days are done and over, and disability only going so far, I can't afford to continue smoking! I know that the initial set-up to switching to E-Cigs is costly, but when compared to a carton or two of cigarettes, it is paid for and then some!! I have my collection of flavors lined up! So far my favorite is Dragon Juice and Juicey Fruit, and Pineapple Vanilla Rum. and Mango and....... Like I said I like the fruitier ones!

Thanks for taking the time for reading my rant and thanks a lot or all responses I have received!

Linda
 

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IMFire3605,

I appreciated your response! More than you can ever know!! All I get when I go into our local Vap Shops - is you need this, that and the other! You've given me more advice than anyone else. I have been a 2+ a pack a day smoker for the most part of the 40 years. Maybe I've tried to drop to quickly, bit I like the taste I get from the 18mgs e-flavors! I have some Mocha flavored, and will try more of that! I also tend to mix my flavors - so it's hard to say if I am truely using 18 mg. I tend to mix some of the stronger flavors like my 24 mg Bubble gum, with 0% vanilla or root beer! I'm using an itazte vv battery which I love, but I've noticed it has been doing some strange things while charging at night! Like blinking red to orange to green, or orange to green all night! Could this be of my fear of changing the coils? The Atomizer I am now using is an "Aspire BDC" which is the first one that I have purchased that seems to be idiot proof - which is something I was in definite need for! I had tried the Mini KangerTech II (V1) , but found that every time I would change the coil in it, I would break off a piece of the coil in the base, and had a lot of trouble getting it out. Wish me luck as I shall try to change my coils in my new Aspire today!! Hopefully (yes, I was once a blonde), this will result in a rather easy fix for me!!

I had been running my battery on a "U3.8" - like I said earlier, I have gotten more information after posting my initial post here than I have from any store, so I'm not sure if that has anything to do with the heat than I'm running or not. The first store that I had gone into had told me that the fruitier the 3-juice the lower the heat I should use, and the breadier or baked goods flavor should run on the higher heat. I don't even know for sure if the (U3.3) is the heat or not. I only know that that is as low as my battery will go. I do get a "A 1.9" and a "U4.1" when at the hotter (?) heat. I have no idea what the "A" or the "U" stand for or if either one has to do with the temperature. I have noticed that I hate the taste of a "stinkie," but find it hard to quit with a house where my partner smokes like a chimney and when my daughter comes to "visit" that when both of them are here my stinkie cigarette smoking increases! I do limit myself to when I can smoke a Stinkie and when I can't!! I cross stitch, I refuse to smoke while working on a project and I also don't smoke when I'm playing my facebook games on my phone! I have no problem smoking only my e-cig then! I LOVE MY E-CIG!! And would prefer to smoke it only! So, in case you haven't noticed, I tend to ask a lot of questions. I'm sorry if I have repeated some that others may have asked earlier! I fell a year ago - shattering my L-1 vertebra and it's coming up on the one year anniversary of my third (and hopefully) last surgery. I never should have started back up when I got out of the hospital, but (hanging head in shame), but I did!!

The one thing that I have now that I didn't have then was the willingness to give it up! Now with the price of regular smokes going nothing but up, and facing the fact that my working days are done and over, and disability only going so far, I can't afford to continue smoking! I know that the initial set-up to switching to E-Cigs is costly, but when compared to a carton or two of cigarettes, it is paid for and then some!! I have my collection of flavors lined up! So far my favorite is Dragon Juice and Juicey Fruit, and Pineapple Vanilla Rum. and Mango and....... Like I said I like the fruitier ones!

Thanks for taking the time for reading my rant and thanks a lot or all responses I have received!

Linda

Well for starters we'll start with the iTaste VV. Solid little brother to the iTaste MVP, they both run the same circuit board for the most part. The A- 1.9 when you press the adjuster buttons at the same time is the resistance of the coil of your tank it is reading, and 1.9 sounds about right for the Aspire BDC default resistance of 1.8, the V - 4.1 is the remaining charge on the battery in digital format, just information the computer displays when asked for a resistance check. 3.8Volts output sounds about right, 3.8*3.8/1.9 you are getting 7.6 watts at the coil for output which is generally in the sweet range for most on a basic tank of 7 watts to 9 watts (watts are the rating most gauge coil temp from and 7.6 watts is about right tbh). During the charge cycle if it is going through the christmas light show when you first plug it in, that is not a big deal, it does that by default, if doing it while charged but still on the charger after a couple of hits, just the computer topping the battery up, if it is doing it while charging and not being messed with but still taking a charge does not sound like an issue, the light when plugged in will stay red for a while, then yellow, then green and finally turn off all together when the battery is fully charged.

The Aspire BDC tank systems, I am really really loving Aspire products, they are rock solid, and great perfomers, and like you said almost idiot and newby proof. Matched with that iTaste VV you got an excellent unit. The coil heads I am seeing from my own customer base lasting from 1 1/2 weeks upwards to 4 weeks depending on a bunch of variables, coil output (voltage and wattage output), color of liquid, thickness of liquid, sweetness of liquid, and how often the coil is fired and used. I basically tell customers if the tank starts decreasing in flavor, gurgling a lot, and starting to taste charcoal or scorched, then it is time to replace the coil. 3.3volts on the battery output will give a weak, light vape, while 5.0volts the battery's max output will give a harsh, possibly scorched vape. That VV battery can go into Variable Wattage mode, simple method to switch to this mode and be set and forget. VV is like a standard base car mode, the road you drive on is the resistance of the coil, to keep the same quality vape, higher resistance coil will be a hill forcing you to increase your gas pedal to maintain speed, a valley coming from a hill top (increase voltage output), you let off the gas to coast down (decrease voltage output). Variable Wattage/Variable Power is the same car, only with cruise control. As I posted above, by the figures you gave, 3.8v on a 1.9ohm coil is about 7.6watts (this is your speed limit you like and enjoy), once the unit is set to P7.5 to P8.0, doesn't matter the hill or valley (coil resistance) the computer does the math for you in reverse, reads the coil resistance, and adjusts the voltage output for you automatically to maintain its set speed limit without any other input from you. To set the battery into this mode, push the + sign plus the fire button after, and hold until the screen reads PX.X, then click + or - until set at P7.5 or P8.0

The mixing of liquids, I will give a simple to use formula for mixing, this is assuming a 50% of one liquid to 50% of another, but can be effective in a 33%/33%/33% mixing and such, just more algebra. Liquid 1 nicotine strength + Liquid 2 nicotine strength (/) divided by 2 = equals new nicotine strength. Eg. 18mg + 6mg = 24mg/2 = 12mg final nicotine strength. Mixing a 24mg with another to get an 18mg you'd need a 12mg (24+12=36/2=18), a 24 mixed with a 0 would be a 12, etc.

I remember you stated liking fruity liquids, nothing wrong with that, was just making suggestions is all. 2+ Pack a day, 24mg should be about right for you, and we can take it a step further. Running 2 nicotine strengths, a 24mg and an 18mg. Using the 18mg for most the day, the 24mg as a change up flavor and to hit on after waking up, eating, high stress situations, or after a long period of not vaping and need a quick vape to get your fix. I used this formula for the better part of my first 6months, always had a Strawberry in 24mg and then a tobacco or coffee flavor in 18mg I would use most of to the majority of the day before I was at a constant 18mg, and have recently stepped down to 12mg at my 18month finally quit cigs mark. Not everyone can follow the same formula another does, it is a matter of finding the right combination of variables to attain success. As I work at a vapor shop, even though I am there to make money, my priority in my customer service is to listen and mentor as much as I possibly can, and point or guide a fellow vaper or potential new vaper into a proper direction before profit and money, sadly a lot of B&M owners look more at the bottom dollar on initial sales instead of focusing on the needs of their customer base to keep those customers coming back. Here in Phoenix, like the Los Angeles and California scenes, there are a plethora of vapor shops to choose from, my advice here is find a B&M shop near you that you can build a raport with the owner or employee that is knowledgable, figure out their schedule of days they are there, and visit during those days and times when you need supplies.

Again another lengthy reply :/. And to not hijack this thread more, you are more than welcome to Private Message me with any questions or concerns.

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