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JimStanmore

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On the cigarette smell, I am a teacher and nothing covered it. I used coats, gloves and Febreze and nothing worked. I overheard some of my electronic students talking a few years ago about the difficulty of removing a certain other smell and the problem stems from the charges on the molecules. If you ever smoked under a desk light you may have noticed that the smoke trail would move towards you regardless of where you moved. That is part of the theory behind oinic air fresheners.

Anyway, I couldn't remove the smell and I began to try to avoid meetings because I knew it was bothering colleagues and bosses. I can tell you that my confidence has soared with the knowledge that the analog smell does not swirl around me any more. For what it is worth, last week a casual conversation gained an interview that turned into being hired over a total span of 45 minutes. Other managers that stopped in to the interview were actually trying to take me from the person who hired me. I personally will always attribute that to NO MORE CIGARETTE SMELL...
 

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Honestly SHannon and Sheryl if you print out a list of what is in tobacco cigarettes and what is in the V4L cartos you will see that all the ingredients from V4L liquid are listed under the tobbacco ingredients as well! Of course Minus the other 3995 other ingredients. I would take both lists to your doctor ( if you need further validation) But I believe any doctor would say of course 3995 ingredients less would be safer! I would not trust just any supplier without an ingredient list of course!
You can get the list of tobbacco ingredients Cigarette Ingredients - Chemicals in Cigarettes
And I know Steve has the list of ingredients on the forums here somewhere or on the store site :)
ALso if your patient sees you using it and they ask questions I think you could answer them without being unethical. Also I would give them a copy and then if they wanted they could personally ask their own doctor :)
 

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I worked in management, and would not advice this. I did show it to my oncologist, she had me demonstrate it to another patient, doctors can get away with it. I in no way told her this was safe, just that I felt it was safer. Now if I seen that pt. out in public and I wasn't working, that would be a different story.
 

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When I went to see my doctor, she was VERY pleased that I had quit smoking. She had no questions about my e-cig... Seemed to know all about them.

She did ask if I had lowered my nic intake and was satisfied with my answer. I had tried to lower my nic, but dropped too much too fast, so had to go back up.

I just submitted an order tonight that will be the first step in lowering to 18mg from the 24 I'm using now.

Bob
 

Sheryl

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You may however discuss it with your pt's physician, and let them discuss it with the pt. In hospice you are on the phone with the pt physician often enough. I haven't had 1 of my doctors say anything negative regarding the e cig, they are just thank-full that I'm not smoking, and actually congratulate me.
 

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There is a video on You Tube of a Dr. who is I believe he is the head of some hosp or at least a department in CA saying it is very safe. And on the Doctors show on TV they said it was safe too. I see my Dr on Thurs and plan on giving him print outs of the V4L website. His mom smokes and he hasn't been able to get her to quit. I truly hope she will try V4L. We all know how we have been doing and that there is a great chance it will work for her too.
 
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