Charger Killing Batteries??

[kristin]

Has anyone had a charger that killed their 510 batteries?

I had 3 perfectly good batteries just die on me now and I now suspect its the charger!!

Is this possible?

New, working fine yesterday.

I had bought a new PCC and some new batteries, because they were suddenly dying on me A LOT. I was using a charger that came with my old OMG kits, (rebranded kits bought at a fair booth) because I couldn't find the one that came with my 510. I finally found it and it's IDENTICAL to the 510 charger.

So, I've been charging this battery in the 510 charger for a couple of days - no problems. Last night, I wanted to charge 2 batteries at once, so I used the OMG charger. I noticed that when I screwed it in, it didn't do the usual LED blinking. So I unscrewed it again and it blinked. So, thought it was OK.

Well, this morning it is dead, dead, dead. No sign of life. I put it into the 510 charger instead and no signs of life there either. This is exactly what happened to my other batteries. (That charger is in the garbage now, because I can't believe it's not the cause anymore!)

My question is, can something that is supposed to charge somehthing actually do the reverse and completely drain it instead? Or is it maybe breaking it somehow? I check the back label and it is identical voltage etc to the 510 charger, so I know it wasn't TOO much power.

I just don't get why it seems this charger has killed 3-4 perfectly good, newer batteries now??

 

[Scottbee]

I am hoping that your charger didn't actually kill your batteries... perhaps just stunned or annoyed them.

The protection circuitry in your 510 batteries should.. to some extent.. protect them from being completely destroyed by the charger. It doesn't necessarily stop them from getting injured though.

Take those three batteries and set them aside for a bit. Allow them to internally stabilize... and then put them back on a known good 510 charger (USB or plug-in.. makes no difference). See if they respond to the TLC.

 

[kristin]

Ok, I'll give it a shot. The new one that was "stunned" was on the good charger for the past few hours and hasn't shown any sign of life. I'll put them aside for now.

Thanks Scottbee

 

[batexp]

Kirsten I just had a simular experience with my 510 manual switch batt. What I did was attach it to a charger that I thought belonged to the 510 ( I've bought so many kits that I've lost track of what goes with what). Any way this USB charger belonged to a super mini but the 510 screwed right in. Same thing as you indicate no flash, then one flash, left it charging for hours, then never worked again.

What I think may have happened is that the charger is set up in reverse polarity from the 510 charger. Both batts are the same voltage and I would expect the 510 to be tougher than a super mini.

I plan to check the polarity on both chargers with a meter tomorrow and will let you know what I find. Not sure what that will do to fix our problem but it will at the least tell us what not to do in the future (mix chargers and batts).

 

[SusanB]

Kristin
I too am having 510 battery problems

i bought the 5 battery charger from TW...and i think it ruined 3 brand new batteries and a mega battery. They go on just fine...They charge just fine...They even light up off the atty like they will work. but the minute i put them on the atty they do a sad little blink like they are not connecting properly. I cleaned them with alcohol and everything. i know its not the atty because the atty works just fine with other batteries. It kind of ...... me off...the 5 battery charger is a piece of crap and killed a total of 4 brand new batteries. Thanks TW for the defective crap

 

[bitey]

Chances are that the charger is pushing the middle connector to the batteries down too far so that it is not making good contact with the atomizers. You can fix this by either putting the end of a straightened paperclip into the battery's middle hole in the connector end and pulling it forward slightly (and carefully). Once it makes contact, it should work fine.

BTW, the charger may also be fine, and you may simply be tightening the batteries too much onto the charger, hence, pushing the middle of the batteries in too far. If so, don't screw them on so tightly.

If the paperclip trick doesn't work, you can use the staple solution. It can be found here:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/40048-please-help-my-batteries.html

Good luck.

Kristin
I too am having 510 battery problems

i bought the 5 battery charger from TW...and i think it ruined 3 brand new batteries and a mega battery. They go on just fine...They charge just fine...They even light up off the atty like they will work. but the minute i put them on the atty they do a sad little blink like they are not connecting properly. I cleaned them with alcohol and everything. i know its not the atty because the atty works just fine with other batteries. It kind of ...... me off...the 5 battery charger is a piece of crap and killed a total of 4 brand new batteries. Thanks TW for the defective crap

 

[bitey]

Kristen, please see the reply I wrote for SusanB in the post above this one for ways to fix your problem. Try the paperclip way of adjusting your batteries. If that doesn't work, try the staple solution by following this link:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/40048-please-help-my-batteries.html

Good luck to you too.

Has anyone had a charger that killed their 510 batteries?

I had 3 perfectly good batteries just die on me now and I now suspect its the charger!!

Is this possible?

New, working fine yesterday.

I had bought a new PCC and some new batteries, because they were suddenly dying on me A LOT. I was using a charger that came with my old OMG kits, (rebranded kits bought at a fair booth) because I couldn't find the one that came with my 510. I finally found it and it's IDENTICAL to the 510 charger.

So, I've been charging this battery in the 510 charger for a couple of days - no problems. Last night, I wanted to charge 2 batteries at once, so I used the OMG charger. I noticed that when I screwed it in, it didn't do the usual LED blinking. So I unscrewed it again and it blinked. So, thought it was OK.

Well, this morning it is dead, dead, dead. No sign of life. I put it into the 510 charger instead and no signs of life there either. This is exactly what happened to my other batteries. (That charger is in the garbage now, because I can't believe it's not the cause anymore!)

My question is, can something that is supposed to charge somehthing actually do the reverse and completely drain it instead? Or is it maybe breaking it somehow? I check the back label and it is identical voltage etc to the 510 charger, so I know it wasn't TOO much power.

I just don't get why it seems this charger has killed 3-4 perfectly good, newer batteries now??

 

[SusanB]

WOW THANKS BITEY!!!

I will try that tonight...i was so bummed out about those batteries , especially because i heard such great things about the mega batteries lasting 4 hrs.

i did think that perhaps i was screwing them on to the charger to tight or to loose...but i tried them at various levels of tightness and the result was always the same....but perhaps they are not charging properly at all.

Ill try the paperclip trick and hopefully be able to use the batteries

Much appreciated!

 

[kristin]

Kirsten I just had a simular experience with my 510 manual switch batt. What I did was attach it to a charger that I thought belonged to the 510 ( I've bought so many kits that I've lost track of what goes with what). Any way this USB charger belonged to a super mini but the 510 screwed right in. Same thing as you indicate no flash, then one flash, left it charging for hours, then never worked again.

What I think may have happened is that the charger is set up in reverse polarity from the 510 charger. Both batts are the same voltage and I would expect the 510 to be tougher than a super mini.

I plan to check the polarity on both chargers with a meter tomorrow and will let you know what I find. Not sure what that will do to fix our problem but it will at the least tell us what not to do in the future (mix chargers and batts).

Definitely would like to know what you find out. It'd be great to figure out a way to revive those batteries, too!!

 

[kristin]

Kristen, please see the reply I wrote for SusanB in the post above this one for ways to fix your problem. Try the paperclip way of adjusting your batteries. If that doesn't work, try the staple solution by following this link:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/40048-please-help-my-batteries.html

Good luck to you too.

Thank you - I'll check it out!

 

[kristin]

Unfortunately, that link doesn't work in my case. I have sealed manual batteries. And mine don't look like they are charging?

When I screw it into the charger, the battery LED doesn't flash at all, like a good battery does. The charger seems to acknowledge that it's in there - the light goes from green to red, but it never turns green again.
I've cleaned the battery threads, but this last one had only been used a couple times, so I know it wasn't dirty.
Sigh...

 

[Scottbee]

Kristin,

What is an OMG Kit?

(The reverse polarity is always a possibility.... but without knowing what an "OMG" is...)

 

[kristin]

It was a three piece model with an exposed atty I bought at the state fair - my first kit. It's a rebranded mini, 401 or 4081, I believe. I never got it confirmed, because I just gave up and bought us manual 510's. The batteries fit on 510 attys.

I think it's probably the same as the Smoke 51 Smoke Free and Smoking Everywhere, etc.

Someone else posted pics of his OMG brand here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...cartridges-work-most-brands-2.html#post603838

 

[SusanB]

Unfortunately, that link doesn't work in my case. I have sealed manual batteries. And mine don't look like they are charging?

Kristen the staples trick can be used on the atty end also when i get home tonight i am going to try the paperclip pull up first...then the staple
hopefully one of them will work

 

[boxhead]

hey the OMG ( DSE 103, M401) was at calxpo this summer, and i tried my 510 on it, it seemed to me that it made contact quicker on 510 atty. i felt i could turn it more after it seated, looked at them and without a caliper, thought the battery thread was shallower the 510 battery.
so maybe the center contact got pushed or twisted and a wire broke...or center pin shorted to outter (thread) pin.
you have a volt meter? does the led lite when you suck the atty side of the batt? blow from led end while checking thread end, should get something 3.7 good, 2.5< charge time, and nothing could mean broke wire or completly dead battery.
jtth(just trying to help)

 

[Liscab]

Why most people always talk about 3 dead batteries in a day or 3 atmys?
what could be wrong, I have to be very carefull I don't want to hit that wall

 

[kristin]

Kristen the staples trick can be used on the atty end also when i get home tonight i am going to try the paperclip pull up first...then the staple
hopefully one of them will work

Ok, I have to go back and re-read that a little closer, then. Thanks!

 

[kristin]

Can the inside connector of a manual battery get pushed back, as well? It there any way to pull it forward again, since it doesn't have the hole to fish into with a paper clip?

Is it ok to do that staple mod on the atty instead of the battery?

 

[Scottbee]

Can the inside connector of a manual battery get pushed back, as well? It there any way to pull it forward again, since it doesn't have the hole to fish into with a paper clip?

Is it ok to do that staple mod on the atty instead of the battery?

Yes! But if that's required then you'd have to do it to the charger too.. right?

 

[batexp]

Kirsten,
Sorry, I still have not been able to test the batts and charger. Seems both of my testers are at my boat and I'll not be there untill this weekend. Seems to me that even if the contacts were bent like some of the other posts suggest the manual batt should still blink like it needs a charge. As is mine does nothing since the incident. I'll let you know what I find ASAP.