Chemicals in E-Cigarettes

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Frenchfry1942

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I just, I believe, re-read that article and it brings to mind that chemicals caused by "normal" vaping are very negligible. It is only when extreme practices are done that there is an issue. As that article pointed out, I don't like a single dry hit, let alone doing it repeatedly.

vaping is a lot better than smoking. I see the Tv commercials about other cessation products and their confirmed side effects. Nobody seems to want to stop their usage. But, then again, tobacco and pharmaceutical companies have a lot invested and a lot of money.

I vape. My doctor approves and my lab tests are better. My dentist even noticed, but I didn't bother to tell him. No, I vape.
 

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If I remember correctly wasn't the formaldehyde with a really weird setup? I want to say very low quality, questionable liquid, a ce4 clearo and that was pushed to something over 5 volts? I may be wrong, but I remember thinking "Yeah that's not good, but no one uses them that way."

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In short: no there isn't any formaldehyde in e-cigs. Formaldehyde does form when overheating the device, which tastes about as good as lighting a cigarette by the filter and taking a drag. It is not something one does with regularity and it is avoided by users.

The tests that claimed to have found formaldehyde levels of significance were hugely flawed.

Spreading fear and confusion with misleading formaldehyde studies « The counterfactual
 

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Hello. I have heard that there is formaldehyde in e-cigarettes. Does anyone have scientific information about this?

The basic ingredients of an e-cig juice are vegetable glycerin, propylene glycol, flavoring and some nicotine ... so no. No formaldehyde in e-cigs, but may be a product when an e-cig is not properly used (as they already said).

1. What’s in Your E-Cigarette?
2. E Liquid Ingredients - Four Things You May Not Know You're Vaping | License To Vape - Ecig Reviews
3. Are Electronic Cigarettes Harmful? 5 E-Cig Safety Studies | License To Vape - Ecig Reviews

And a lot more resources are available online.

I would like to return the question: Do you have a scientific reference to the formaldehyde, or have you just "heard" of it from somewhere?
 

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The word "chemicals" seems to have a negative cogitation. I noticed that foods have a huge amount of ingredients, but only ones that meet a certain percentage threshold need be listed. But some do get listed because of meeting that threshold. Yet, they are not referred to as chemicals, they are ingredients. Doesn't the word "ingredients" sound better?

The FDA is a small, budget conscious agency. Much of their findings are produced via grants to third parties. There is a lot of room for shenanigans going on there.
 

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its probably going to be in one of the links above but the dangerous chemicals form when e liquid is heated above 600c thats close to the melting point of aluminium and more than double wat anyone would vape.

The whole formaldehyde in e-cigs debacle was utter bunkum. It was like intentionally setting a car on fire, then proclaiming that burning cars are hazardous.

wat he said ;p
 

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The short answer is they're knowingly and intentionally lying to you for political purposes. In truth, nobody actually knows the long term health effects, if any, of vaping because we haven't been vaping long enough to find out. It is generally conceded not vaping is probably healthier than vaping, and vaping is definitely healthier than smoking. However, regulators want to regulate, taxers want to tax, cronies want to make sure the money goes in their friends' pocket, and there's a certain type of holier than thou, mind-other-people's-business-for-them people who are really annoyed evil tobacco users aren't going to die of cancer in accordance with their prophecy, so they make up scare stories to try to fix it. There are people out there whose skin crawls at the thought of folks doing what they want without government permission, and that's what the "formaldehyde in e-cigs" thing is all about.
 

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Hello. I have heard that there is formaldehyde in e-cigarettes. Does anyone have scientific information about this?
Unfortunately there is a lot of outright lying by public health officials. The overwhelming majority of complainers are tax supported and their funding will be cut when everybody stops smoking. At a minimum they have conflicts of interest.

I believe vaping is lower risk than smoking so I'll keep vaping. Still there might be hazards worth avoiding. I noticed there is fussing about flavors. I mix at home and find I can get good flavor from very little flavoring. Currently I use 1% cupucino flavoring from Capella. There is also concern about products of combustion when the liquid is overheated. So I use temp control and keep power down. There are concerns about battery safety. I'm careful to buy the correct batteries from reliable sources who won't sell fakes and use a combination of ohms and power that keeps the amps draw far below the maximum tolerance of the battery. I try to keep my ambitions in check. I care about throat hit, not vapor production, flavor, or impressing people.

The people who oppose ecigs will not be satisfied with anything less than a ban on ecigs while cigarettes remain available the same as always. That is because that is where their economic self interest lies.
 
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Two of the worst problems of the internet;

1. People can write anything, usually unchallenged and
2. It will probably stay on the internet forever.

There was a great study done by Totally Wicked (a e-cigarette company/reseller) which you would consider to be 100% pro-e-cigs and blindly refuting bad news stories.
They concluded if you misused their products and vaped early-technology equipment at too high a power, you might be inhaling bad stuff.

I quote from @Mikey6 which is basically the same type of study.

If I remember correctly wasn't the formaldehyde with a really weird setup? I want to say very low quality, *deleted*, a ce4 clearo and that was pushed to something over 5 volts? I may be wrong, but I remember thinking "Yeah that's not good, but no one uses them that way."

The "5.0 volts story" stopped a lot of people quitting smoking, because they were too fearful, lazy or ignorant to read/understand/challenge the articles.

It's a shame these sorts of articles will remain on the internet in perpetuity. :nah:
 
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If I remember correctly wasn't the formaldehyde with a really weird setup? I want to say very low quality, questionable liquid, a ce4 clearo and that was pushed to something over 5 volts? I may be wrong, but I remember thinking "Yeah that's not good, but no one uses them that way."

Thumb smashed on my Galaxy Note 4

You are absolutely correct. It wsd s ce4 that wss heated eith a lot more watts than anyone would vape.

A complete hit piece to discredit vaping
 
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Unfortunately there is a lot of outright lying by public health officials. The overwhelming majority of complainers are tax supported and their funding will be cut when everybody stops smoking. At a minimum they have conflicts of interest.

I believe vaping is lower risk than smoking so I'll keep vaping. Still there might be hazards worth avoiding. I noticed there is fussing about flavors. I mix at home and find I can get good flavor from very little flavoring. Currently I use 1% cupucino flavoring from Capella. There is also concern about products of combustion when the liquid is overheated. So I use temp control and keep power down. There are concerns about battery safety. I'm careful to buy the correct batteries from reliable sources who won't sell fakes and use a combination of ohms and power that keeps the amps draw far below the maximum tolerance of the battery. I try to keep my ambitions in check. I care about throat hit, not vapor production, flavor, or impressing people.

The people who oppose ecigs will not be satisfied with anything less than a ban on ecigs while cigarettes remain available the same as always. That is because that is where their economic self interest lies.
Bravo! You hit that nail on the head!
 
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