Child Lock the new trend?

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Romenov

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I don't see the point...
Usa adds "child saftey" to items (pill bottles ect) and later teaches these "children" how to open/use/bypass the nuisance of child saftey.

Bet I can ask any 5yo to open up a meds bottle with child saftey and guaranteed they'd open it no problem.


Smh. More stupidity, blind leading blind
same with those lung pictures on cigarette packs..

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not chasing clouds, too I guess child proof thing is to meet the potential regulations.. at least PHE suggested in their report

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Yeah i understand , to me there are so many unnecessary regulations though , i'm talking about with everything , most don't even make sense .
 
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Yeah i understand , to me there are so many unnecessary regulations though , i'm talking about with everything , most don't even make sense .
Kind of like on airliners, when they're on the ground trudging along at 10 mph they have us buckled in like we're at a car race, but when we're hurdling through the air at 500 miles per hour, we can roam about the cabin even though an unforeseen updraft/downdraft/turbulence patch could throw us to the ceiling any second.

Lots of regulations (unlike the previously mentioned) are helpful and necessary, but the ones they're trying to drop on our community are uncalled for.
 
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Kind of like on airliners, when they're on the ground trudging along at 10 mph they have us buckled in like we're at a car race, but when we're hurdling through the air at 500 miles per hour, we can roam about the cabin even though an unforeseen updraft/downdraft/turbulence patch could throw us to the ceiling any second.

Lots of regulations (unlike the previously mentioned) are helpful and necessary, but the ones they're trying to drop on our community are uncalled for.
I don't roam on such altitude and speed except it's necessary, but such child proof regulation on vape gears is totally unnecessary, like some vapers above said, people will keep it away from children, and if in some cases children reached it, they can easily open it like they open pill bottles with similar proofs..

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Think of it from their standpoint, you're a multi-million maybe even billion dollar company in an industry full of scrutiny and under heavy watch. Regulations are about to pass which require you to make some pretty heavy changes.

What would you do?

It's not that big of a deal really and it really doesn't matter whether I have children as the item wasn't made solely for me it's a mass-produced item so it has to fit the needs of the masses. I'm fine with it honestly and yes it's needed as some vapers do have little kids that love to grab things, a small security feature isn't the end of the world, just like juice bottles should have protective caps so should tanks as they contain the same thing.
 

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Think of it from their standpoint, you're a multi-million maybe even billion dollar company in an industry full of scrutiny and under heavy watch. Regulations are about to pass which require you to make some pretty heavy changes.

What would you do?

It's not that big of a deal really and it really doesn't matter whether I have children as the item wasn't made solely for me it's a mass-produced item so it has to fit the needs of the masses. I'm fine with it honestly and yes it's needed as some vapers do have little kids that love to grab things, a small security feature isn't the end of the world, just like juice bottles should have protective caps so should tanks as they contain the same thing.
Yes from their standpoint, it's a move to save the business, but it's also saving the vaping rights as if there's no devices pass the harsh regulations, vapers will have few choices in the market.
I know Phil and Dimitris and senator duncan and so many people including giants in the industry had tried so hard to save the vaping world for us and I really appreciate it, but looks like the law makers are still keeping their stance, a child proof so far today makes less impact on vaping experience but it may lead to further steps much more harsh and bring much more negative impact on convenient vaping experience, as an alternative that helped so many reduced tobacco harm, it's not a good trend :(

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Yes from their standpoint, it's a move to save the business, but it's also saving the vaping rights as if there's no devices pass the harsh regulations, vapers will have few choices in the market.
I know Phil and Dimitris and senator duncan and so many people including giants in the industry had tried so hard to save the vaping world for us and I really appreciate it, but looks like the law makers are still keeping their stance, a child proof so far today makes less impact on vaping experience but it may lead to further steps much more harsh and bring much more negative impact on convenient vaping experience, as an alternative that helped so many reduced tobacco harm, it's not a good trend :(

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One little child protective cap is never a bad idea, think of it this way all it takes is one bad parent to leave their open tank or bottle exposed a baby gets sick and the 6 oclock news picks up the story and spins it as a problem with vaping. The whole ordeal could have been avoided if it just had a safety cap. : )

There are many things I disagree with when it comes to new regulations and laws but something I never fuss over and actually encourage is things like child proof caps on anything and minimum legal vape age and not selling to minors. These are all things mod and juice makers should self regulate before they're forced to.
 

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I don't roam on such altitude and speed except it's necessary, but such child proof regulation on vape gears is totally unnecessary, like some vapers above said, people will keep it away from children, and if in some cases children reached it, they can easily open it like they open pill bottles with similar proofs..

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When I was a little kid, I knew WELL how to open child-proof things. Luckily I was responsible with them.
 
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When a toddler enters a room I'm in under his own power I'm automatically looking for anything that could get him into trouble and moving it. (Move stuff when his back is turned so he won't get annoyed.) Then find a couple of things he can play with and put them on the floor. If he doesn't notice get down on the floor and handle the items. He'll be over in a flash. Once he's playing on the floor the cool grownup stuff may drop off his radar. How is this not in everybody's genetic makeup?

All this child proofing stuff is pointless interference by people who benefit from tobacco taxes. If they want to protect children from household chemicals there are other way more important ones that cause a lot more problems.
 

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When a toddler enters a room I'm in under his own power I'm automatically looking for anything that could get him into trouble and moving it. (Move stuff when his back is turned so he won't get annoyed.) Then find a couple of things he can play with and put them on the floor. If he doesn't notice get down on the floor and handle the items. He'll be over in a flash. Once he's playing on the floor the cool grownup stuff may drop off his radar. How is this not in everybody's genetic makeup?

All this child proofing stuff is pointless interference by people who benefit from tobacco taxes. If they want to protect children from household chemicals there are other way more important ones that cause a lot more problems.
child lock on devices is pointless when the juice bottles already had it and children can open the lock

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Completely irrelevant, as long as it keeps the FDA away it's doing it's job. Look at pill caps children get in them easily, yet if you don't put a child cap on it you'd get sued or worse should anyone actually get sick. Just do it and move along, these little inconveniences are nothing compared to the .... storm that could come if you just ignore them. It's a safety cap not a chastity belt you'll be ok. Flavor bans, outdoor vaping, outright bans or high taxation these are all things worth fighting for! A simple cap on an atty that the company put on their to make sure they don't get sued? Don't sweat that.
 

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What about

120ml of your favourite juice and add nicotine yourselves?
I'd be okay with that. I currently DIY about 50% of my e-liquid diet, still going back and forth about going to 100% DIY. I've got enough nic stocked up in the deep freeze to last me quite a while.
 
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