Chinese Juice

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Giovanni99

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Most of the vaping hardware and accessories are made in China, which isn't a bad thing. China, the land of knocking off everything imaginable is now suffering from the same troubles. Must be Karma.
But, for myself and my friends/family I strongly urge them to stay away from Chinese juice or juice made from Chinese components. There is no way to track the source of the product and there is virtually no guidelines they have to follow. If they wanted to, they could put Drano in the juice and get away with it. Only use juice made here in the USA or with components made from US companies that is FDA (food & Drug Association) approved.
You may also encounter "Kosher Approved" products. This is a good thing. Basically it means that the product has been created under strict rules of cleanliness.
The other thing that sucks about Chinese juice is the consistency from one batch to another. It's almost as if they throw on whatever flavor labels are available. Today's coffee flavor may taste like bubblegum tomorrow.
Buy USA juice and support your local vape shop.
 

GaG8tor

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I agree with you 100%. However, I wouldn't put it past the special interests to use the Asian juice makers who may put suspect materials in their juices as an excuse to show how unsafe this vaping phenom is thus allowing restrictions, taxes and bans.

They're already doing this by testing juices sold in convenience stores.

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Newgmole

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When it comes to putting anything into your body, always buy from a reputable source. It's impossible to truly know what ingredients are being used in e-juice since there are no requirements in place for full disclosure. Our only option is to buy from a trustworthy source and hope for the best or make your own!

I agree, just like the toys with lead in the paint...
 

KODIAK (TM)

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Now... now people. :)

We're acting just like ANTZ here. Taking stuff off the innerwebs as gospel truth. I also would like to see something to substantiate this claim. Don't get me wrong... I can picture somebody making bad/unsafe juice simply because there is no oversight. But I'd still like to see some facts.

That's how this should work.
 

klynnn

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Well I have been vaping Chinese juice for almost 2 years now and I happen to like it, of course I doctor it up a bit with flavoring, but I have never had a problem. Quite a few problems I've heard of in the states with meat recalls, salmonella poisoning of cataloupe killing quite a few, fungus and mold in medicine. Until our own back door is perfect we can't fault someone elses.
 

Completely Average

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I will say this on the subject.

There are different grades of both PG and VG.

If you're buying American FDA approved then you're buying a grade that has been tested and verified as safe for human consumption.

There is also industrial grade PG and VG which is not as pure, and not considered fit for human consumption. Industrial grade PG and VG is also MUCH cheaper than FDA approved consumption grade.

Do you know which grade your Chinese supplier uses? Given the cost difference between FDA approved grade and industrial grade, which do you think a bottom-price Chinese supplier with no health restrictions is going to use?
 

Giovanni99

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Are you serious?? Is your memory that short?? Chinese kill babies with Melamine tainted milk?? Does that ring a bell? Or Over 600 dogs and cats in USA killed by Melamine tainted dog food? It was 2008, must seem like a lifetime.
For those of you that don't have google....... (I hear it's all the rage)... here ya go...
From Wikipedia:
The 2008 Chinese milk scandal was a food safety incident in China, involving milk and infant formula, and other food materials and components, adulterated with melamine.
By November 2008, China reported an estimated 300,000 victims,[1] with six infants dying from kidney stones and other kidney damage, and an estimated 54,000 babies being hospitalised.[2][3] The chemical appeared to have been added to milk to cause it to appear to have a higher protein content. In a separate incident four years before, watered-down milk had resulted in 13 infant deaths from malnutrition.[4]
The scandal broke on 16 July 2008, after sixteen infants in Gansu Province, who had been fed on milk powder produced by Shijiazhuang-based Sanlu Group, were diagnosed with kidney stones.[cm 1] After the initial focus on Sanlu—market leader in the budget segment—government inspections revealed the problem existed to a lesser degree in products from 21 other companies, including an Arla Foods-Mengniu joint venture company known as Arla Mengniu, Yili, and Yashili.[5]
The issue raised concerns about food safety and political corruption in China, and damaged the reputation of China's food exports, with at least 11 countries stopping all imports of Chinese dairy products.
A number of criminal prosecutions occurred, with two people being executed, another given a suspended death penalty, three others receiving life imprisonment, two receiving 15-year jail terms,[6] and seven local government officials, as well as the Director of the Administration of Quality Supervision, Inspection and Quarantine (AQSIQ) being fired or forced to resign.[7]
The World Health Organization referred to the incident as one of the largest food safety events it had had to deal with in recent years, and that the crisis of confidence among Chinese consumers would be hard to overcome.[8] A spokesman said the scale of the problem proved it was "clearly not an isolated accident, [but] a large-scale intentional activity to deceive consumers for simple, basic, short-term profits."[8]
In late October 2008, similar adulteration with melamine was discovered in eggs and possibly other food, traced to melamine being added to animal feed—despite a ban imposed in June 2007 following the scandal over pet food ingredients exported to the United States.[9]
As of July 2010, Chinese authorities were still reporting some seizures of melamine-contaminated dairy product in some provinces, though it was unclear whether these new contaminations constituted wholly new adulterations or were the result of illegal reuse of material from the 2008 adulterations.[10]
In 2012, Jiang Weisuo, 44, the man who first alerted authorities to what would become the melamine-tainted milk scandal was murdered in Xi'an city.[11]

Well, the chinese must have learned their lesson.... right??? Wrong again. Here's is something from CNN in 2011:

China seizes 26 tons of melamine-tainted milk
By Helena Hong, CNN
April 27, 2011 5:42 a.m. EDT
Beijing (CNN) -- Police in southwestern China seized more than 26 tons of melamine-tainted milk powder intended for use in ice cream, officials said.
The Public Safety Bureau in the city of Chongqing said the factory that bought the milk had closed for equipment maintenance. And therefore, none of the contaminated milk powder made it into the market.
Police have detained three people in connection with the case.
Melamine is commonly used in coatings and laminates, wood adhesives, fabric coatings, ceiling tiles and flame ......ants.
Some Chinese dairy plants add the chemical to milk products so they appear to have a higher protein level.
A scandal erupted in 2008 when tainted milk killed at least six babies, and caused kidney stones and urinary tract problems in hundreds of thousands of children.
In all, 21 people were tried and sentenced for their roles in the scandal. Two were executed.
The company at the center of it filed for bankruptcy.
The Chongqing seizure took place on March 25. City officials announced it on Tuesday, as they kicked off a 100-day food safety campaign.
 
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