Choosing the right ecig for you

[wdave]

After over four months of vaping and interacting with other forum participants, and having tried the ecigs I've listed at the end of this post, I am suggesting some questions for new ecig users to ask themselves prior to purchasing their first ecig. I will try to explain why the following questions are important to you, being as brief as possible:

1) Do I want to vape the best simulation of a real cigarette. Or do I want to vape more pleasant tasting flavors?

2) Do I wish to take short puffs or long draws?

3) Do I wish to use an automatic battery or a manual battery?

4) Can I put up with vapor occasionally burning my throat?

5) How tolerant is my stomach to the VG/PG and nicotine vapor?

6) How often do I wish to charge batteries?

I will compare two of my ecigs. The Npro and the Titan 510. First the Npro, which I consider to be an example of an ecig that delivers a “dense” cloud of vapor. The density of the vapor requires only a short puff to deliver a good hit. It works well with automatic batteries. It also results in better protection of the throat from irritation/burning. And more flavor for those who like the more pleasant juice flavors.

However, the dense cloud of vapor occurs because the vapor is more saturated with liquid than an ecig that delivers a less dense cloud of vapor. Unfortunately, the more saturated vapor results in more condensation of the vapor in the mouth, meaning more of the PG/VG and nicotine goes into the stomach than with a thin cloud of vapor. So an Npro user needs more tolerance to these stomach irritants in the juice. Some juices will cause more problems than others. And I believe juices attempting to simulate a real cigarette are among these “stomach challenging” juices.

Second, the Titan 510, which I consider to be an example of an ecig that delivers a “thin” cloud of vapor. The thin cloud of vapor allows/requires long draws. The thin cloud means the vapor is less saturated with liquid. Less condensation occurs in the mouth, so less PG/VG and nicotine goes into the stomach than with a dense cloud of vapor. My first experience with “dense” vapor made me quite sick. Switching to VG did not help. Deceasing nicotine concentration did not help. I switched to the “thin” vapor of the 510 and no longer got sick. Not even when I tried very strong tobacco flavored juices. So I believe that generally, the thin cloud of vapor is better than the dense cloud of vapor when vaping tobacco flavored juices. Of course, I'm sure there are exceptions.

However, the thin cloud of vapor is dryer, meaning the vapor is more likely to irritate/burn the throat. Also, the long draw will probably require a manual battery. And as evident in the 510, the long draw will require more battery re-charging

Good luck on your journey. I hope my experience and observations will help when choosing the right ecig for you.

Dave

 

[iStormUK]

Well, I'm new to the whole vapouriser thing, but after seeing these things on iwoot.com, namely the gamucci micro, I went on a hunt for e-cigs, and found Scott's site, not sure if I can give the addy here so won't. I found his youtube account too, as his vids were blocked on site, and discovered the model I was going to go for, sucked (no pun intended ) and browsed his reviews, checked out the sites he linked to, and settled on a trial me model from Mirage, and I'm hooked!

I have the Mirage e-Cig, and will soon be ordering a spare, a case, and a battery, cartridges, etc, but have placed an order for some e-liquid to tide me over, following a recommendation on the same vid, for Minty Choc Chip flavour (I smoke menthol cigs usually), but yeah, I'm converted, and I wanna try that Greenline cigar, and Titan model out next.

 

[Kent C]

Other views:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/36513-newbies-510-way-go.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/37764-hello-fellow-x-smokers.html

There are many more on this m4081 and similar models - search "smoking everywhere" and "blu cigarettes" .... and read some of those posts before buying. Just a few more samples:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...discussion/39215-smoking-everywhere-scam.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/35733-smoking-everywhere-sucks.html

 

[wdave]

I'm no longer anti-901, BTW. I resurrected mine with the straw mod and turned myself into a "newbie" again. I kind of wish I had never commented on the thing

However, the "901" I used was not really a DSE901. It is an RN4075 which is what is actually sold at Totally Wicked. As others have noted, the atty gets hotter in an RN4075 than it does in a real 901--the vapor is better than with a real 901. And of all the RN4075 and 901 attys I purchased, an RN4075 atty has lasted over two months--much longer than the real 901 attys. But even the RN4075 attys did not last as long as the 510 attys. If you want a 901-style ecig, I recommend the RN4075 from TW as follows:

- Get the silver colored starter kit, where the finish is not painted. The paint chipped very easily on my black RN4075's. The paint on the real 901 attys actually started to dissolve.

- A pack of five extra atty's to bring the total atty's, including those in the starter kit to seven. This should insure you get two or three good attys.

- Don't waste any time on attys that do not work right out of the box.

- Go ahead and chance it with the two batteries in the starter kit. But be prepared to order additional batteres if necessary.

- Use the straw mod with your own polyfill on your first vape and subsequent vapes.

- Absolutely never overfill. Overfilling will very likely ruin the batteries.

I consider the RN4075 to produce "dense" vapor. Personally, I found the dense vapor still made me sick and I had to go back to using my 510 exclusively. Your experience may be different.

Dave

 

[wdave]

Other views:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/37764-hello-fellow-x-smokers.html

I prefer the 510 over the Npro. Did I forget to mention that one can use tea bags to make the 510 produce dense vapor?

Then again, I don't mind having my ecig not look at all like a real cigarette. Also, I try to keep the ladies in mind who will probably not be very happy with a 901/RN4075. Nor the 510, which I think requires the megabatt and ends up looking like a big cigar.

The Npro worked pretty reliably for me (that is, with the battery that didn't die right away). But the infant mortality of 901 batteries was horrible compared to the Npro batteries. And the Npro atty has lasted a quite a long time.

I finally got a little smart on Npro refills. I should have guessed it was easy to pull the inner cartridge out of the outer cartridge and refill directly from the bottle. I would think refilling/prefilling five Npro carts should get one through the next day just fine.

Dave

 

[vaporich]

I prefer the 901 for the smooth vapor.
IT battery over performs the 510.

THe 510 doesnt have the cut off on the battery though.
THat is the advantage. You can draw, extemely well on it.

Overall though, I use both on my mods.

I switch back and forth from 901 to 510 atomizers, cuz both are the best models.
Both are great.

ALthough, I think the 901 auto, is closest looking to the real cig.

The white model.

Once you use a mod though, at 6 volts. You can really go back.

 

[IANAN]

For cheap kits you can't ignore the 8084/84 mm and 4081 kits for around 30 bucks;

On the 4081;

The advantages to the 4081 kits are; 1. Inexpensive replacement parts (If you look around), 2. rugged atomizers (They can take quite a bit of abuse), 3. Local availability for parts and carts (In a pinch you can buy carts and parts from gas stations or mall kiosks), 4. Relative good battery life for the size of bat, 5. Relative ease in self refilling carts and dripping, and 6. If used optimally can produce a fair amount of vapror.

The cons to them are; 1. Carts only hold a max of 100 mouthfulls (That is totally topped off) but a more realistic 60 (Or less) useful draws is more common (If you smoke down to the filter you are taking 10-15 draws off your traditional cig- that means you only get 4 - to a max of 10 cigs per cart), 2. battery life is about 2 carts (With a DSE 103 bat 3 carts), 3. They can be a bit hard to use optimally (There is a learning curve) and most starter kit instruction guides don't do a good enough job describing how to use them, 4. Size- They are almost the size and diameter of a regular cig-- The 8084 and E8/V8 are the actual size of a regular cig (effects how you carry them around), and 5. Cost of pre-filled carts- It can cost you more to vape using pre-filled carts than to smoke (If you are purchasing smokes by the carton).

On the 8084/ 84 mm;

Main disadvantages-- the battery life and the 4 piece design.

-- The 2 part design is better suited to newbies but costs more... A V8 (about the same size as a king cig) or V9 (100 mm length) from Loong Totem or E8 or E9 from E-cig.com. You also have the greencigs and KR808s... you can pick those up for around $50. The E8 bats tend to last as long as the 8084 bats and E/V9 as long as the 4081s.

 

[Funyun]

thanks for the help!