Chris and Sean review the Joye 510

[Hangar]

***UPDATE

just as an update to my TECC 510 Titan situation which I purchased from "Totally Wicked USA".

Although TW has sent me a kit with a working charger and working manual battery, all the auto batteries they sent me have the 2-3 second cutoff problem...yielding such a small amount of vapor in a single drag that its pointless.

When I ask them about Scott's video telling of the newer version which has no cutoff all they reply back is "the ones we have sent you ARE the latest versions from JOYE"...yet mine keep cutting out after a couple seconds and TW refuses to take it back and refund my money claiming that they were tested by Patti before being sent out and nothing wrong was found, lol.

Now im stuck with paying for 3 batteries, meanwhile only 1 works without defect...nice. I love a company who knows how to stand behind their product.

So what gives here?...was Scott the ONLY one to receive these magical "fixed" batteries that dont cutoff?....because according to Totally Wicked they dont offically exist, and the current offering from JOYE is still the old batts with the faulty switch.

 

[SharonLM]

***UPDATE

just as an update to my TECC 510 Titan situation which I purchased from "Totally Wicked USA".

Although TW has sent me a kit with a working charger and working manual battery, all the auto batteries they sent me have the 2-3 second cutoff problem...yielding such a small amount of vapor in a single drag that its pointless.

When I ask them about Scott's video telling of the newer version which has no cutoff all they reply back is "the ones we have sent you ARE the latest versions from JOYE"...yet mine keep cutting out after a couple seconds and TW refuses to take it back and refund my money claiming that they were tested by Patti before being sent out and nothing wrong was found, lol.

Now im stuck with paying for 3 batteries, meanwhile only 1 works without defect...nice. I love a company who knows how to stand behind their product.

So what gives here?...was Scott the ONLY one to receive these magical "fixed" batteries that dont cutoff?....because according to Totally Wicked they dont offically exist, and the current offering from JOYE is still the old batts with the faulty switch.

Mine should be through charging at 8pm tonight and I'll give it a try. I've ordered a LOT!!!! from TW so if this doesn't work, they better do something about it and if not, I won't do any more business with them!!

 

[RsL]

***UPDATE

just as an update to my TECC 510 Titan situation which I purchased from "Totally Wicked USA".

Although TW has sent me a kit with a working charger and working manual battery, all the auto batteries they sent me have the 2-3 second cutoff problem...yielding such a small amount of vapor in a single drag that its pointless.

When I ask them about Scott's video telling of the newer version which has no cutoff all they reply back is "the ones we have sent you ARE the latest versions from JOYE"...yet mine keep cutting out after a couple seconds and TW refuses to take it back and refund my money claiming that they were tested by Patti before being sent out and nothing wrong was found, lol.

Now im stuck with paying for 3 batteries, meanwhile only 1 works without defect...nice. I love a company who knows how to stand behind their product.

So what gives here?...was Scott the ONLY one to receive these magical "fixed" batteries that dont cutoff?....because according to Totally Wicked they dont offically exist, and the current offering from JOYE is still the old batts with the faulty switch.

I ordered a Titan from TW a few weeks ago, it came with one manual battery and one auto. At first the auto battery did NOT have any cutoff at all and was working great! But a half hour later it was cutting off after 3 seconds. I gave it another long charge and tried it again. I was still getting a 3 second cutoff. I emailed Patti, told her about it, and asked if I could return the auto battery for a manual. She replied, yes. So I sent it back and she sent me a manual battery free of charge. So I'm very happy with the way TW handled the situation!

Hangar, how did you handle your correspondence with Patti? IE: Did you get all pissy with her or were you polite? Did you ask if you could exchange the auto batteries for manual ones?

 

[igetcha]

***UPDATE

just as an update to my TECC 510 Titan situation which I purchased from "Totally Wicked USA".

Although TW has sent me a kit with a working charger and working manual battery, all the auto batteries they sent me have the 2-3 second cutoff problem...yielding such a small amount of vapor in a single drag that its pointless.

When I ask them about Scott's video telling of the newer version which has no cutoff all they reply back is "the ones we have sent you ARE the latest versions from JOYE"...yet mine keep cutting out after a couple seconds and TW refuses to take it back and refund my money claiming that they were tested by Patti before being sent out and nothing wrong was found, lol.

Now im stuck with paying for 3 batteries, meanwhile only 1 works without defect...nice. I love a company who knows how to stand behind their product.

So what gives here?...was Scott the ONLY one to receive these magical "fixed" batteries that dont cutoff?....because according to Totally Wicked they dont offically exist, and the current offering from JOYE is still the old batts with the faulty switch.

hi mate

sorry to hear that you are having problems with your batteries.

when i review a product, i can only judge it from my personal experience of using it and yes, for me the batteries were working perfectly. as i said in the video, the only time i was experiencing a short cut off was when the atomiser began to run dry. but a change of cart, or a few drops of juice directly dripped on to the atomiser quickly rectified it.

have you tried adding a few drops of juice?

for as many people who i read are having problems with the auto batteries, i also know plenty of people who are not having any problems.
its starting to seem as though its a 50/50 gamble as to whether you get a fully functional one or not

i think it would quite interesting if someone started a poll to find out just how many people are having problems compared to those who have not.

i would suggest that if you have a video camera, then take a short vid of you demonstrating the problem and then send it to patti maybe?

i wish that ALL suppliers of the auto batteries would just ditch them and sell the manual battery as the standard and only option..........the manual battery makes the 510 perfect and ive NEVER read anyone saying bad things about them!

cheers,

scott

ps......i must point out that i recieved mine from TECC and NOT Totally Wicked! (though i would imagine they stock the same items as they are sister companies)

 

[Hangar]

Scott HI! - yes i tried dripping a few drops onto atomz but it didnt fix it for me. I understand the manual batt is going to be more reliable but to be honest i just prefer to use an auto for personal reasons...in fact i ordered an extra auto besides the one that comes with the kit so id have it but none of them are any good as they all cut out. Unfortunately i dont have a video cam but in my opinion i dont think it would make any difference to TW...they dont argue whether or not the batts should be cutting out after only a few seconds, only that they sent me the latest versions and that I cant get a refund because they say according to what ive described here that its working just fine...i mean wtf is THAT all about? (i mean, wow...messed up attitude over there fur sure).

No i didnt act snippy at all (at first)...i was in fact very polite (even though several of my questions were intentionally being ignored...and i know it was intentional because i asked more than once and never got an answer to my questions about this battery business both before AND after i received my kit) and they agreed (after several emails and a few days) to send me a new kit.

The new kit finally did have a working charger and a working manual batt (both of which were toast in the first kit they sent) but as i said, ALL auto batts were cutting out too quickly to produce any kind of normal vapor, let alone great.

At that point and after testing and testing and testing for a few days I decided id better return it for a refund before i lose out on my 7 day policy (which i also mentioned to them as part of my agreement of waiting to accpet the new kit instead of taking a refund right away...i explained if i was still having problems that i would want to still be able to return everything for a refund without hassle and they never said it was a problem)...so i sent an email thanking them for trying to help but ive decided to return and take a refund at this point (since they werent addressing my point anyway about the cutoff and scotts video)..and thats when they said no way, aint gonna happen in essence. Now im getting pissy, yes...ive had enough of ignored questions and inaccurate answers from the staff as well ( i was told by 1 person (who will publicly remain nameless) that the kits are supposed to be sealed yet someone else tells me no theyre not.

Yes....Id be interested in seeing a pole that would allow us to see just how many people have these newer batts that dont cut out.

 

[RsL]

Mine should be through charging at 8pm tonight and I'll give it a try. I've ordered a LOT!!!! from TW so if this doesn't work, they better do something about it and if not, I won't do any more business with them!!

Just some friendly advice. If you have troubles with your auto battery, just politely ask TW if you could please return it for a manual type. They did that for me and I would think they would do it for you as well.

The thing is, no matter what kind of e-cig you buy, if you can get a manual battery for it, that's the way to go. They are simply more reliable and you control the cutoff on it! As Igetcha suggested, if Suppliers have a choice between selling manual and automatic batteries for a particular model, they should just sell the manual ones. It would make for more happy customers and less hassles for the Suppliers!

 

[SavePaperVapor]

By the sound of it he did. He stated that they refused to do it.

 

[RsL]

No i didnt act snippy at all (at first)...i was in fact very polite (even though several of my questions were intentionally being ignored...and i know it was intentional because i asked more than once and never got an answer to my questions about this battery business both before AND after i received my kit) and they agreed (after several emails and a few days) to send me a new kit.

The new kit finally did have a working charger and a working manual batt (both of which were toast in the first kit they sent) but as i said, ALL auto batts were cutting out too quickly to produce any kind of normal vapor, let alone great.

At that point and after testing and testing and testing for a few days I decided id better return it for a refund before i lose out on my 7 day policy (which i also mentioned to them as part of my agreement of waiting to accpet the new kit instead of taking a refund right away...i explained if i was still having problems that i would want to still be able to return everything for a refund without hassle and they never said it was a problem)...so i sent an email thanking them for trying to help but ive decided to return and take a refund at this point (since they werent addressing my point anyway about the cutoff and scotts video)..and thats when they said no way, aint gonna happen in essence. Now im getting pissy, yes...ive had enough of ignored questions and inaccurate answers from the staff as well ( i was told by 1 person (who will publicly remain nameless) that the kits are supposed to be sealed yet someone else tells me no theyre not.

After reading that I guess I don't blame you for getting upset. Sorry you had such problems with the 510 and TW. The 510 is really an excellent unit overall and for whatever reasons, things went wrong for you from the get-go. These things ARE made in China and the quality control there is lacking, so I guess you were the unlucky person that got a bad batch of parts. Hopefully TW will reconsider and let you return the latest kit you have. Good Luck !

 

[SharonLM]

Received my 510 from TW, charged up the manual and charged up the auto. Also purchased a passthrough.

The auto battery after just a few draws seems to be working. Don't know for how long, but the throat hit is minimal, the vapor is minimal.

The manual batter is stuck on. Screw on the atomizer it pops then sizzles and when the cartridge is put on it just keeps hissing like I'm taking a draw. Tried two different atomizers, same thing. Shook it, tapped it, blew into battery, played with the black button, nothing works. However I can take a draw off it and again, like with the auto, minimal throat hit, minimal vapor.

Using the pass through and it's working fine. Still, minimal throat hit, minimal vapor.

The throat hit and vapor are in comparison to my Super-e RN4081 which I thought was the least favored among the elite vapors. So far I'll stick with my super-e RN4081.

Just received the 801 from Runyan in China, from date of order to receipt, it took 8 days to get here. Charging it up now, will try it tomorrow.

Hope I like it better than the 510. If I do, does anyone know where I can find a passthrough for the 801?

 

[tpboles]

Scott HI! - yes i tried dripping a few drops onto atomz but it didnt fix it for me. I understand the manual batt is going to be more reliable but to be honest i just prefer to use an auto for personal reasons...in fact i ordered an extra auto besides the one that comes with the kit so id have it but none of them are any good as they all cut out. Unfortunately i dont have a video cam but in my opinion i dont think it would make any difference to TW...they dont argue whether or not the batts should be cutting out after only a few seconds, only that they sent me the latest versions and that I cant get a refund because they say according to what ive described here that its working just fine...i mean wtf is THAT all about? (i mean, wow...messed up attitude over there fur sure).

No i didnt act snippy at all (at first)...i was in fact very polite (even though several of my questions were intentionally being ignored...and i know it was intentional because i asked more than once and never got an answer to my questions about this battery business both before AND after i received my kit) and they agreed (after several emails and a few days) to send me a new kit.

The new kit finally did have a working charger and a working manual batt (both of which were toast in the first kit they sent) but as i said, ALL auto batts were cutting out too quickly to produce any kind of normal vapor, let alone great.

At that point and after testing and testing and testing for a few days I decided id better return it for a refund before i lose out on my 7 day policy (which i also mentioned to them as part of my agreement of waiting to accpet the new kit instead of taking a refund right away...i explained if i was still having problems that i would want to still be able to return everything for a refund without hassle and they never said it was a problem)...so i sent an email thanking them for trying to help but ive decided to return and take a refund at this point (since they werent addressing my point anyway about the cutoff and scotts video)..and thats when they said no way, aint gonna happen in essence. Now im getting pissy, yes...ive had enough of ignored questions and inaccurate answers from the staff as well ( i was told by 1 person (who will publicly remain nameless) that the kits are supposed to be sealed yet someone else tells me no theyre not.

Yes....Id be interested in seeing a pole that would allow us to see just how many people have these newer batts that dont cut out.

Trying to clarify exactly what you have. So you got a kit from TW, and didn't like the cutoff (dripping usually fixes this). TW sent you another kit for replacement with one manual and one auto battery at their expense?. So in reality you have 2 kits and 5 batteries? So it is not that TW hasn't tried resolving the problem, just their resolution didn't work for you? Are you willing to send it all back at your expense for a refund?

Sorry for all the questions, just trying to figure the situation out. I could have the story all twisted up.

 

[Chris From Cali]

You should note that the 510 usually takes a good solid 30 minutes to break in.

 

[Hangar]

Trying to clarify exactly what you have. So you got a kit from TW, and didn't like the cutoff (dripping usually fixes this). TW sent you another kit for replacement with one manual and one auto battery at their expense?. So in reality you have 2 kits and 5 batteries? So it is not that TW hasn't tried resolving the problem, just their resolution didn't work for you? Are you willing to send it all back at your expense for a refund?

Sorry for all the questions, just trying to figure the situation out. I could have the story all twisted up.

yes I HAD 2 kits...in the 1st kit there was a broken manual batt and a broken charger and 2 defective auto batts that cut out after a couple seconds producing little to no vapor. I was already considering just getting a refund right away but agreed that as long as the waiting time for a 2nd kit being sent out would not effect my ability to ask for a refund, that i would try another kit. So after the 2nd kit arrived as I already stated in this thread it DID have a working manual batt and a working charger now, BUT the 2 auto batts ( i paid for an extra auto batt because i prefer to use auto's personally) were again just like the first 2...defective because they cut out much too quickly to produce any acceptable vapor, flavor and throat hit. So in essence i paid to have 3 batteries but only 1 was functioning correctly.

It was at this point I just sent it back (via my own expense) and asked for a refund (which i am entitled to)...but they have offically refused (via an emailed letter to me) to give me my refund. If they had a problem giving refunds because they received a large bad batch from China then they should have told me before they sent out the 2nd kit (when i told them i would want a refund if after waiting for their 2nd kit, if it still wasnt good) that a refund would be a problem for them.

As a responsible business and representative of your industry you dont FORCE someone ( a previously established customer who has ordered over $100 of liquid with no complaints) to be stuck with a defective product and keep their money for it even after theyve been on the phone and emailing with its associated problems from day 1 of receipt and even though they are within their rights for a refund according to your company's posted policy. They have lost me as a customer for however long they will remain in business, thats a given.

My wife has sent back their materials (i think she's more ...... than I am, lol) and our bank has issued the chargeback for us.

Done deal...but never again (sheesh)

 

[tpboles]

yes I HAD 2 kits...in the 1st kit there was a broken manual batt and a broken charger and 2 defective auto batts that cut out after a couple seconds producing little to no vapor. I was already considering just getting a refund right away but agreed that as long as the waiting time for a 2nd kit being sent out would not effect my ability to ask for a refund, that i would try another kit. So after the 2nd kit arrived as I already stated in this thread it DID have a working manual batt and a working charger now, BUT the 2 auto batts ( i paid for an extra auto batt because i prefer to use auto's personally) were again just like the first 2...defective because they cut out much too quickly to produce any acceptable vapor, flavor and throat hit. So in essence i paid to have 3 batteries but only 1 was functioning correctly.

It was at this point I just sent it back (via my own expense) and asked for a refund (which i am entitled to)...but they have offically refused (via an emailed letter to me) to give me my refund. If they had a problem giving refunds because they received a large bad batch from China then they should have told me before they sent out the 2nd kit (when i told them i would want a refund if after waiting for their 2nd kit, if it still wasnt good) that a refund would be a problem for them.

As a responsible business and representative of your industry you dont FORCE someone ( a previously established customer who has ordered over $100 of liquid with no complaints) to be stuck with a defective product and keep their money for it even after theyve been on the phone and emailing with its associated problems from day 1 of receipt and even though they are within their rights for a refund according to your company's posted policy. They have lost me as a customer for however long they will remain in business, thats a given.

My wife has sent back their materials (i think she's more ...... than I am, lol) and our bank has issued the chargeback for us.

Done deal...but never again (sheesh)

So TW got ALL of their stuff back and didn't offer a refund? You sent both kits back?

I honestly have never ordered from TW myself.

 

[Hangar]

So TW got ALL of their stuff back and didn't offer a refund? You sent both kits back?

I honestly have never ordered from TW myself.

that is correct, AND they were notified within 7 days of receipt on BOTH kits as per their website policy.

 

[tpboles]

that is correct, AND they were notified within 7 days of receipt on BOTH kits as per their website policy.

Thanks for clarifying. I would have been frustrated too. Glad you got your money back.

Sorry for the hijack Chris!

 

[Charlie Cheese]

I don't have a SD, but I do have a 510, and the vapor on these things is outstanding. Of course, the battery life isn't comparable to a SD, but from what I've seen of the SD in video reviews the 510 produces more vapor. That's just my two cents. Maybe someone who owns both can comment and give a more accurate comparison. The 510 seems to be the best of the "stock" models.

I have the 501 and the screwdriver. 501 more vapor than the sd come on!

I like my 501 it produces good vapor almost as much as my 901.

 

[igetcha]

I have the 501 and the screwdriver. 501 more vapor than the sd come on!

I like my 501 it produces good vapor almost as much as my 901.

i take it you mean a 510? lol

so your 510 produces more vapour than a SD......but your DSE901 produces more vapour than the 510??????

you must have a super duper turbo charged DSE901 !!!!!!!!!

 

[Charlie Cheese]

i take it you mean a 510? lol

so your 510 produces more vapour than a SD......but your DSE901 produces more vapour than the 510??????

you must have a super duper turbo charged DSE901 !!!!!!!!!

let me put it another way.

901 little better vapor than the 501
screwdriver alot better vapor than the 501
I know that a lot of people think the 501 produces more vapor than the 901 but I think they must have some bad 901's. Maybe their using regular 901 carts on the 4075 or some bad atomizers because I have 5 SLB atomizers and they all are producing super amount or vapor.
That being said I like the 501, the vapor is good although the atomizer get to hot to have as your only e-cig if you are a heavy vaporer.

 

[RsL]

Received my 510 from TW, charged up the manual and charged up the auto. Also purchased a passthrough.

The auto battery after just a few draws seems to be working. Don't know for how long, but the throat hit is minimal, the vapor is minimal.

The manual batter is stuck on. Screw on the atomizer it pops then sizzles and when the cartridge is put on it just keeps hissing like I'm taking a draw. Tried two different atomizers, same thing. Shook it, tapped it, blew into battery, played with the black button, nothing works. However I can take a draw off it and again, like with the auto, minimal throat hit, minimal vapor.

Using the pass through and it's working fine. Still, minimal throat hit, minimal vapor.

The throat hit and vapor are in comparison to my Super-e RN4081 which I thought was the least favored among the elite vapors. So far I'll stick with my super-e RN4081.

Just received the 801 from Runyan in China, from date of order to receipt, it took 8 days to get here. Charging it up now, will try it tomorrow.

Hope I like it better than the 510. If I do, does anyone know where I can find a passthrough for the 801?

Sharon,

Wow, it certainly sounds like the last batch of Titans TW got has problems. First of all the manual battery shouldn't be doing that. I'd contact TW about it.

One other thing to note is that you shouldn't judge the throat hit and vapor right away. Sometimes atomizers need a good day or two of use before they come alive and work good. Also, I always drip a drop or two of juice on a new atomizer before I use it. They are supposed to come from the factory with some juice or primer on it already, but if it's dried up by the time it reaches you it won't work well. So give that a try if you haven't already.

I have tried pretty much every e-cig out there and the 510 is without a doubt my favorite. What you are experiencing is not the norm. But like I said, drip on that atomizer and use it for a couple of days before you make your final judgement on it!

 

[RazorNribbonz]

:: clutching the edge of the desk with white knuckles..teeth clenched :::..I do NOT need a 510...I do NOT need a 510......lol

Hanger, my sympathies, that sucks... If I understood you right... You sent both kits back? And then they refused you a refund?... umm then I'd demand the kits back... At least you'd be able to put them up in the swap/sale section= theyd go fast!.... ( sorry if I missunderstood that)

Although, I do think TW should have explained all this to you (auto vrs manual preformance) and not ignored direct questions ect.....I honestly do think it comes down to the choice..Several have said the auto batteries have that short cut off default and to go with the manual ( not just TW's auto batts)...If you just seriously did not want the manual batteries, then you're probably right that the 510 is not for you :: smile.....

Might I suggest this fully loaded 410, LV or soon to be prodigy or or ...Gawd I need rehab :: laugh