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Christian Nation, YES for sure!

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mightymen

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    Did we become a nation at the time of the of the signing of the Constitution and Bill of Rights or at the unset of an idea.

    If the claim is upon written signing of text of Constitution and Bill of Rights then I argue the point since we allow for Amendment to the Constitution then it's obvious not finished, completed thereby we wouldn't be a nation.

    I claim we became a Christian nation upon the idea and following through with that idea from CONCEPTION to the birth at the signing of the Constitution, the Constitution is a living document that was given life at the time of conception.

    "Does A MOTHER become a mother at birth or at the time of conception."

    I further state that the first example we have of a Constitution as a Nation, signed and placed into law is the Mayflower Compact.
    Conception happened upon the idea before the signing.

    Charrter of 1606', also known as the First Charter of Virginia, is a document from King James I of England to the Virginia Company assigning land rights to colonists for the stated purpose of propagating the Christian religion.[1] The land is described as coastal Virginia and islands near to the coast, but the surveying numbers correspond to modern day South Carolina to Canada. The land itself would remain the property of the King, with the London Company and the Plymouth Company (the two divisions of the Virginia Company) as the King's tenants, and the settlers as subtenants. The colony's government at first consisted of a council residing in London. The document designated the London Company as responsible for financing the project, which included recruiting settlers and providing for their transport and supplies. Charter of 1606 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Notice the Amen at the very beginning the 100% agreement that no doubt can be injected by stating a fact "In the name of God"

    Modern version Mayflower Compact
    In the name of God, Amen. We, whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God, of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, King, defender of the Faith, etc.
    Having undertaken, for the Glory of God, and advancements of the Christian faith and honor of our King and Country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the Northern parts of Virginia, do by these presents, solemnly and mutually, in the presence of God, and one another, covenant and combine ourselves together into a civil body politic; for our better ordering, and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute, and frame, such just and equal laws, ordinances, acts, constitutions, and offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the colony; unto which we promise all due submission and obedience.
    In witness whereof we have hereunto subscribed our names at Cape Cod the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France, and Ireland, the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth, 1620
    Mayflower Compact - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    There's no doubt that a group of Christians proclaimed God and included God at the start, conception/existence of our great country, known as "these United States of America".

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    The Mayflower Compact, signed aboard the ship on its way from England to the New World, acknowledged their loyalty to the King and pledged their obedience to such just and equal laws as would be necessary to the general good of the colony to be established after landing. This document represents the first example of a written constitution in North America.
    The Mayflower and Plymouth Colony [ushistory.org]
     
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    Saintscruiser

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    It started out that way, but look at our country now. This country was settled and built by Christian people and their laws reflected it. There are always those who won't ever agree and twist it all around for their own purposes. They refuse historic proof because they don't want to live by it. This has been going on for longer than can be remembered. The 'law' of separation of church and state is not a law, but people have taken the course to do that. Our founding father, George Washington was a Christian. Most of the people who signed the Constitution were Christian. They felt you couldn't call yourself a patriot if you weren't Christian.

    In these latter days, there will be a great falling away from 'the church' and all of it's teachings. People have heard the Gospel of Jesus Christ and chosen self first......it's Scriptural. How horribly sad. :(

    The other day I was watching the effects of war on people. It was an episode of Magnum P.I. and I said to God, "war is so horrible." He said, "It's going to get much worse," meaning the death toll during the Tribulation time. :cry:
     
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