"Without a Friend in the World"

[Saintscruiser]

Hateful???? What is hateful about telling the truth??

First of all, Israel isn't run by a world known terrorist group....Hamas. The Jews have tried and tried to make peace with the palestinians, but they couldn't uphold their end of the bargain, so to speak. All Israel wishes is that the palestinians recognize Israel as a country, and the palestinians wouldn't hear of it. They don't want to share the land they want to kill every man, woman, and child!

Throughout history, there have been wars....land has been seized and kingdoms overthrown. Have you noticed the size of Israel vs her surrounding neighbors? Israel has been a nation since May 15, 1948, and in that time, no one has removed them. It's a little tiny nation vs the arab world. It's been in existence for 62 years. Israel is still standing. Now you gotta look at that and it's miraculous just that point! You cannot discredit Divine intervention.

Scripture states: "I will bless those that bless you and curse those who curse you." Again, I suggest you take it up with the One who created Israel, the wife of Almighty God. Shalom.

 

[chimney55]

Israel is in pink. The Arab nations (that the "Palestinians" came out of to begin with) are green. To put the map in perspective, Israel is about the size of San Bernardino County in California. And the Arabs want them to give up more land.

By the way, this doesn't mark the other Islamic countries that are pressuring Israel to give up land. Turkey is the country directly north of Syria and Iran is directly north of Saudi Arabia in the picture. But, as SC said, by miracle, Israel is still there.

 

[chimney55]

Just want to point out. While the Jews are God's chosen people, He has rarely "always approved" of what they were doing. But their wrong doing doesn't change that fact that they are God's chosen. So we have seen the leadership in many nations, cultures and religions stray from the excepted norm and always have.

We don't respect Israel because of their ability to "do it right". We respect Israel because of God's choice of them. That does not mean that you have to like what each of them are doing. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that some Jews are ashamed of how some Jews act... So?

God is not finished with Israel.

Very well said, eHuman!! I couldn't have said it better myself!

 

[eHuman]

Thanks Chim, much love back to you!

 

[Michelle M]

Israel would like to exist in peace. However, you need to understand that it is the stated goal of the Hamas charter that Israel be "wiped off the map." While many of the Palestinian people individually might wish for peace, Hamas will never rest until Israel is destroyed. They brought upon themselves the recent Israel/Palestine war by continally firing rockets into Israel, which finally reacted after waiting much longer than most nations would. They routinely execute people and mistreat women. Sharia law is in place in spite of denials. Hamas is a terrorist organization. The support it gathered during the recent albeit brief war was both astonishing and sickening.

 

[chimney55]

Israel would like to exist in peace. However, you need to understand that it is the stated goal of the Hamas charter that Israel be "wiped off the map." While many of the Palestinian people individually might wish for peace, Hamas will never rest until Israel is destroyed. They brought upon themselves the recent Israel/Palestine war by continally firing rockets into Israel, which finally reacted after waiting much longer than most nations would. They routinely execute people and mistreat women. Sharia law is in place in spite of denials. Hamas is a terrorist organization. The support it gathered during the recent albeit brief war was both astonishing and sickening.

Right, Michelle. I would add that the PA is a "moderate" terrorist group who has the same thing in their charter.

 

[blondeambition3]

This is what always chapped my cheeks the most about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict also! Israel is the size of what? (New Jersey... tiny... lol) surrounded by these HUGE Arab countries... and these ARABS want to destroy Israel to give them a 'homeland' (so they claim) in secret/behind their backs, they call them 'dogs' and refuse to give them any land themselves.. is that any way to treat your Arab 'brothers?'... sheesh! Lebanan, Syria and Jordan have 'absorbed' most of the Palestinian refuges, but they've never liked it... that's how they treat them also.. like homeless refuges. Unbeknownst to most people, there are thousands of Christian Palestinian Arabs that live & work side by side ... in peace, in Israel at this moment. Israel has no problem with sharing the land with Christian Arabs..

 

[eHuman]

"The world" surrounding that little plot of land that the Israelites are on don't understand the actual boundries that God set and promised to Israel. Alot of people will be "relocated" one day.

 

[blondeambition3]

"The world" surrounding that little plot of land that the Israelites are on don't understand the actual boundries the God set and promised to Israel. Alot of people will be "relocated" one day.

Oh Amen e! Lebanon (among others) are going to have their 'borders' redefined real soon... and not by us! (lol)

 

[chimney55]

I found a GREAT set of maps showing Israel's history in the 20th century!

Focus On Jerusalem~Map Room

 

[Saintscruiser]

There have been 2 times in recorded Biblical history that I think would be a time when I would like to live. The first being when Jesus walked the earth. The second....in the here and now. The more I watch the news the more I listen for a trumpet. But until that time, as people are still getting saved, I look at the world in sheer horror, knowing what's coming, and I'm not even talking about the Tribulation. We look around at governments worldwide and wonder how can we all even get past the next year? The waves get higher and higher! I think...."Oh Lord, look what we've done to this world you gave us." That's when I have to turn off the news and get my eyes back on Jesus. Even if my knees wobble a little, I will put my faith and trust in Him! Thank You, Lord for stretching my faith, even when I don't think it will stretch any further. Thank You for taking care of this frightened woman that knows her feet are made of clay, lifting me up with Your Strength, Your Boldness, through Your spirit. Thank You, Lord for still loving us when the world has just gone crazy. Lord I lay before You, humble and still. Thank You Lord, for blessing this website with Your spirit each and every day so that we may do Your Will, not ours. Bless each and everyone right now, right where they are, and allow up to bury our heads in Your shoulders for comfort. Thank You, Lord for hearing my prayer, for it's in the Holy, Most Precious Name of Jesus, I ask, Amein

 

[blondeambition3]

There have been 2 times in recorded Biblical history that I think would be a time when I would like to live.Me also! lol The first being when Jesus walked the earth.Definitely! The second....in the here and now.No, I don't like it here.. lol The more I watch the news the more I listen for a trumpet.Amen Sister! Preach it! But until that time, as people are still getting saved, I look at the world in sheer horror, knowing what's coming, and I'm not even talking about the Tribulation. Praise God Amen!We look around at governments worldwide and wonder how can we all even get past the next year?Oh boy is that not a truth! The waves get higher and higher!We're listening!.... I think...."Oh Lord, look what we've done to this world you gave us." That's right!That's when I have to turn off the news and get my eyes back on Jesus.Amen! Always! Keep those eyes stayed on Christ! Even if my knees wobble a little, I will put my faith and trust in Him!Hallelujah! Praise Jesus! Thank you Father! Thank You, LordYes Lord! Thank you! for stretching my faith, even when I don't think it will stretch any further.Yes Father, increase our Faith as our minds & hearts stay fixed on you. Without you we are nothings and nowheres! Thank You Yes! Thank you Father' for taking care of this frightened woman that knows her feet are made of clay,Yes, thank you Father.. for loving and caring for your servants and your Sheep lifting me up with Your Strength, Your Boldness, through Your spirit. Yes Father! You lift us up and elevate us into your perfect and redeeming Love! Thank You, Lord for still loving us when the world has just gone crazy.Yes Lord! Lord I lay before You, humble and still.Yes Father, may we always remain humble and still enough to hear your voice and do your will as you would have it done! Thank You Lord,Yes, Thank you Lord for blessing this website with Your spirit each and every day so that we may do Your Will, not ours.Yes, not our will but your will be done Father Bless each and everyone right now,Yes Father, touch & bless every beloved ECF Forum Servant right now right where they are, and allow up to bury our heads in Your shoulders for comfort.Yes Father, we give you honor praise and eternal Thanks for your mercy that is renewed every morning and endures forever, allowing us to boldly approach your throne of grace Thank You, Yes, Thank you Father! Lord for hearing my prayer,Yes Father! Thank you for hearing our Prayers for it's in the Holy, Most Precious Name of Jesus, I ask, Amein Yes Father, in the Holy and most precious name of Jesus we pray in agreement.. as you are so worthy of our Praise.. Amen

We love you Father, Help us to be 'good and Faithful' servants and to run the race you've purposed before us.... Amen & Amen!

 

[BradSmith]

First, you need to make sure that what you are saying IS the truth and not the propaganda put out by the "Palestinians".
If you follow the news in Israel, Israel retaliates for rockets sent in civilian areas by the "Palestinians". That there are more Palestinians killed in these incursions is because either a) the Palis couldn't hit the broadside of a barn or b) God is protecting His chosen people. A couple of months ago, the Palis cried out because a dozen people were injured and a couple of people when the IDF hit a house in Gaza. What they didn't mention is that the "house" that was hit was being used to store ammunition while they made the family STAY there! I mention reports from Israel because you won't get news reports here in this country that aren't biased. They believe that peace will come to the middle east if Israel gives her land to a government formed by terrorist----AND they believe that because if they don't say that they believe it, people will start blowing up things here!

Yes it is the truth. 100% the truth. Propaganda put out by the Palestinians?? Are you kidding?? Sorry but I was stationed on the Sinai Peninsula as part of the MFO and I can tell you for a 100% fact that Israel is the agressor. Don't get me wrong I love the Jewish people, but their government is sick.

 

[BradSmith]

First of all, Israel isn't run by a world known terrorist group....Hamas. The Jews have tried and tried to make peace with the palestinians, but they couldn't uphold their end of the bargain, so to speak. All Israel wishes is that the palestinians recognize Israel as a country, and the palestinians wouldn't hear of it. They don't want to share the land they want to kill every man, woman, and child!

Throughout history, there have been wars....land has been seized and kingdoms overthrown. Have you noticed the size of Israel vs her surrounding neighbors? Israel has been a nation since May 15, 1948, and in that time, no one has removed them. It's a little tiny nation vs the arab world. It's been in existence for 62 years. Israel is still standing. Now you gotta look at that and it's miraculous just that point! You cannot discredit Divine intervention.

Scripture states: "I will bless those that bless you and curse those who curse you." Again, I suggest you take it up with the One who created Israel, the wife of Almighty God. Shalom.

Divine Intervention?? Really?? How about US intervention?? Would they be there today without billions and billions of dollars of US Military hardware?? As for wanting to live in Peace. That is a joke. They don't want to live in Peace, they have broken every single treaty they have ever sighned. They Murder people it's what they do. The Jewish people deserve peace but their own govenment will not let that happen.

 

[blondeambition3]

Yes it is the truth. 100% the truth. Propaganda put out by the Palestinians?? Are you kidding?? Sorry but I was stationed on the Sinai Peninsula as part of the MFO and I can tell you for a 100% fact that Israel is the agressor. Don't get me wrong I love the Jewish people, but their government is sick.

Brad is speaking a truth here....I was in Lebanon for five months in the mid nineties... so he's not lying... there were many towns in Lebanon being bombed as a result of the Israeli hitting what they believed were 'Hezbulloh' targets... only problem is, innocent 'civilians' were dying as a result of this. only problem is, innocent 'civilians' were dying as a result of this. (There were no Hezbulloh in many of the villages they bombed.. at least that's what the Lebanese People in those villages were claiming... now whether this is an actual fact or not I can not verify one way or another, I just know it grieved my Heart to see homeless widows and dead babies beneath the wreckage they shown on the TV... Yes, I have to admit there's much evil and lies on both sides of this Israeli/Palestinian coin and I pray for ALL of them. I agree Brad.. the governments over there (all of them!) are so sick and corrupt!

My heart breaks for all of these people who are victims beneath tyrannical Governments... including US! (lol)

 

[blondeambition3]

sorry... messed this post all up! (LOL)

 

[BradSmith]

OH my poor little Israel with it's hundreds of billions of dollars worth of US Military Arms and one of the largest and most advanced Nuclear Weapons programs ever. Sorry but their size has nothing to do with their Strength. The vastly out arm the Palestinians and all of their neighbors as well. It's also twisted that people keep saying that it's their land. It's not their land. They stole it first using terrorist tactics like blowing up the King David Hotel and later with an advanced military. I feel sorry for the Jewish people that they have to live with the guilt for what their government has done and continues to do.

supporting the Jewish people and the Palastinian people is the Christian thing to do. However, Supporting a murderous regime is NOT Christian in my opinion.

 

[BradSmith]

Brad is speaking a truth here....I was in Lebanon for five months in the mid nineties... so he's not lying... there were many towns in Lebanon being bombed as a result of the Israeli hitting what they believed were 'Hezbulloh' targets... only problem is, innocent 'civilians' were dying as a result of this. only problem is, innocent 'civilians' were dying as a result of this. (There were no Hezbulloh in many of the villages they bombed.. at least that's what the Lebanese People in those villages were claiming... now whether this is an actual fact or not I can not verify one way or another, I just know it grieved my Heart to see homeless widows and dead babies beneath the wreckage they shown on the TV... Yes, I have to admit there's much evil and lies on both sides of this Israeli/Palestinian coin and I pray for ALL of them. I agree Brad.. the governments over there (all of them!) are so sick and corrupt!

My heart breaks for all of these people who are victims beneath tyrannical Governments... including US! (lol)

If you know this how could you make a joke about Bombing them? Honestly in one post you are LOL'ing about getting their borders changed and then you say your heart goes out to them??? I don't get it.

 

[eHuman]

Brad I get you, and I get your point. I'm not laughing about the death of anyone, but the comment I made on the borders... God will do that not man. Are you saying God's plan is evil?

 

[LisaLisa]

I think this whole israel/palestine issue is more of a political discussion and probably does not belong in this forum cause it's only causing grief and is not bringing Glory to God in any way, shape or form.