I was always a Cisco fanboy till I tried some betas that won me over but since the source appears to have dried up it seems Im back to being the Cisco Kid again. 
Cisco 1.5Ω 306 & 510 with no bridge review thread.
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This 306 is really impressing me.
A regular Cisco 1.5 306 never worked well for me at all.
This one with no bridge is awesome. When I need more I think I'll get all 306
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A regular Cisco 1.5 306 never worked well for me at all.
This one with no bridge is awesome. When I need more I think I'll get all 306
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I totally dig the Cisco 306, because it is so forgiving on oversquonk and just plain works well (I did say Cisco).
Went to order a half dozen yesterday, and they're out. Didn't even think to look at the bridgeless. Just ordered a couple (didn't want to get six without testing them a little myself).
I wish I could make the 357s work, but I just can't get the squonk down, and I get annoyed with them really fast...
Went to order a half dozen yesterday, and they're out. Didn't even think to look at the bridgeless. Just ordered a couple (didn't want to get six without testing them a little myself).
I wish I could make the 357s work, but I just can't get the squonk down, and I get annoyed with them really fast...
It's a known issue. Both Avid Vaper and Rob can get you sorted out, depending on which correction you'd prefer. Avid will accept returns and replace with attys tested for fit on a Reo or Rob can doctor the threads on your Reo so that they're more forgiving of variences in 510 threaded attys & cartos.
Ditto! Just ordered 8 'bridgefull' 306es
!! Gauging from how long these last, it looks like its going to be some time before I can try the bridgeless ones will try em for sure though!Well stated, Mudflap... Also, Avid is stating that they've corrected the issue, so it won't be a problem on future orders. I haven't had the issue myself, but I've only been using a REO with Cisco atties since November...
Nice, I'm a real big fan of a looser draw when it comes to atties and cartos. Don't really like taking to strong of a draw. Reminds me of drinking a milkshake. Interesting to hear that the HH has a lighter draw as well.
That's what I was interested in if the flavor and TH was actually improved by having no bridge. I've only de-bridged my atty a few times to see what the hype was all about. Good thing is if I get these atties then I don't have to de-wick them. I'm going to order a couple just to try them out for myself.
Kind of disappointed with the Aero so far since the draw seems tighter then the i06. Maybe it's just the one that I got.
That's what I was interested in if the flavor and TH was actually improved by having no bridge. I've only de-bridged my atty a few times to see what the hype was all about. Good thing is if I get these atties then I don't have to de-wick them. I'm going to order a couple just to try them out for myself.
Kind of disappointed with the Aero so far since the draw seems tighter then the i06. Maybe it's just the one that I got.
the draw is actually lighter on the bridgless ones vs standard.
Not as light as a HH-357 but getting there. So far the draw is the only benefit I'm finding in comparing the two.
And thats just a personal thing.
The flavor and TH seem exactly the same as the bridge version IMO.
Now I'm not really a 306 master so there might be more differences in the 306.
But the 510 I've spent thousands of hours with
It's interesting to hear that the bridgeless 306's seem to be working better for you compared to the reg Cisco's. I wonder what aspect of these atties were changed to making them perform better for you. Since I have de-bridged a few 306's to see the difference as I mentioned in my last post.
Didn't notice much of a difference then besides their capacity to hold juice. Although, I am hoping that there is something that has been changed with these atomizers in particular. Great to hear that your enjoying them and like hearing the updates. Always been a pretty hardcore Cisco 306 user. Don't use any other 306 now at days. So, this is what peeked my interest about these.
Didn't notice much of a difference then besides their capacity to hold juice. Although, I am hoping that there is something that has been changed with these atomizers in particular. Great to hear that your enjoying them and like hearing the updates. Always been a pretty hardcore Cisco 306 user. Don't use any other 306 now at days. So, this is what peeked my interest about these.
Well its going to be tough to update the 510 version situation much ..... right now I'm using 4 of the 306 bridge-less.
They are really winning me over. I have one HH-357 in the mix too. But honestly I'm enjoying the 306 just as much.
But they are all brand new so time will tell if they are still performing this well in a month or two I'm going to be a happy guy.
Not sure what the difference is, but I know my technique has improved since the last time I used a regular Cisco 306.
That was at least 6 months ago and I always had some dry burnt hits involved. I never de-wicked any though.
But being able to buy a Cisco 306 with no bridge and to have them perform this well is exciting.
I always liked the idea of the 306 and loved the cannon drip tips (I have 5 of them) ..... Stoked that I'm getting some use out of them now.
So for Cisco fans I don't see any downside to going with the no bridge version. (make sure you don't get the sealed center post).
They are really winning me over. I have one HH-357 in the mix too. But honestly I'm enjoying the 306 just as much.
But they are all brand new so time will tell if they are still performing this well in a month or two I'm going to be a happy guy.
Not sure what the difference is, but I know my technique has improved since the last time I used a regular Cisco 306.
That was at least 6 months ago and I always had some dry burnt hits involved. I never de-wicked any though.
But being able to buy a Cisco 306 with no bridge and to have them perform this well is exciting.
I always liked the idea of the 306 and loved the cannon drip tips (I have 5 of them) ..... Stoked that I'm getting some use out of them now.
So for Cisco fans I don't see any downside to going with the no bridge version. (make sure you don't get the sealed center post).
Well I ordered the unsealed ones to give them a try. The regular LR 510 are very good so I can't see these being worse so I'll find out tuesday (Monday no mail)
tim, is there an option to get sealed or unsealed center posts? what is the difference?
I had a issue with 1 of 4 I exchanged with a fellow REOnaut for 2 .357s. I didn't have to bother Rob or hassle with Avid cause I need a atty for a woodchuck I had and tho it didn't work on the REO it did on the WC.
Unsealed are for use of bottomfeeders and sealed for dripping and tanks etc....if Im not mistaken.
Ok, mine came in yesterday, and I have a couple of first impressions...
One of the things I really liked about Cisco's 306 (and 306s in general) is that they're very forgiving on oversquonk. The bridgeless are less so. They will sputter a bit, and I'm assuming the bridge/wick kept this from happening on the standard. However, they're still far more forgiving than the 357 that I really want to like, so it might make a good "training atty" for the 357. Time will tell.
Also, I ordered one of Cisco's aluminum cannon drip tips (I really want black aluminum, and CherryVapes isn't selling them at the moment). It doesn't seem to fit the aero properly (even with the inner plastic ring). It seems the raised "aero" logo on the outside of the atty is just enough to keep it from sliding down properly. The drip tip fits other Cisco 306s just fine...
As Tim said, time will tell on the rest... just first impressions.
One of the things I really liked about Cisco's 306 (and 306s in general) is that they're very forgiving on oversquonk. The bridgeless are less so. They will sputter a bit, and I'm assuming the bridge/wick kept this from happening on the standard. However, they're still far more forgiving than the 357 that I really want to like, so it might make a good "training atty" for the 357. Time will tell.
Also, I ordered one of Cisco's aluminum cannon drip tips (I really want black aluminum, and CherryVapes isn't selling them at the moment). It doesn't seem to fit the aero properly (even with the inner plastic ring). It seems the raised "aero" logo on the outside of the atty is just enough to keep it from sliding down properly. The drip tip fits other Cisco 306s just fine...
As Tim said, time will tell on the rest... just first impressions.
Now, I'm real interested in seeing how these perform vs. the standard 306's. Just ordered a couple of 306's and 510's to see how they work out. Luckily they are the unsealed versions. Oh, you should give the 3 ohm 306's a try. Been using them for awhile now and they still work like a champ. Same great performance as the reg. 306's as well. Plus, they'll come in handy for the upcoming VV REO.
Anyways, it will be interesting to hear how they perform for you in the next couple of months. I'm assuming that they will from my experience with 306 atties. Although, I clean mine almost instantly after I finish a bottle. That might have something to do with it since I don't like gunk to build up on the coils.
Technique is important when dealing with the Cisco 306's. Remember killing about 6 of them in a month trying to figure out how to use them correctly. Only thing that de-wicking does is reduce the chances of getting a dry hit and so, that might explain the problems that you had before with them. Learned that the hard way and tried a lot of different methods before I decided to de-wick mine. Worked great after that and so, that's what I do with all of my atties now before I even prime them.
Totally understand what your talking about. It's much easier to take an atomizer out of the box and use it immediately. Then have great performance to add to the convenience. It's much better then getting rid of the primer and de-wicking. How do you like the cannon tips? It's weird that the whole time I've been using 306's I never got one of those. Anyways, you might wanna get one of these too:
306 Imperial
It's the 306 Imperial and looks kind of like a cannon but, it's a SS drip tip. I personally think it's EXTREMELY nice. The problem is that their CC system is down. So, that's what I'm waiting for too.
Overall, I think it's great that your happy with them and finding a use for your atties. To me, they are perfect for the REO and don't have the slightly muted flavor compared to cartos. Thank you so much for your opinions and review of these atties. Really eager to try them for myself when they get here.
Anyways, it will be interesting to hear how they perform for you in the next couple of months. I'm assuming that they will from my experience with 306 atties. Although, I clean mine almost instantly after I finish a bottle. That might have something to do with it since I don't like gunk to build up on the coils.
Technique is important when dealing with the Cisco 306's. Remember killing about 6 of them in a month trying to figure out how to use them correctly. Only thing that de-wicking does is reduce the chances of getting a dry hit and so, that might explain the problems that you had before with them. Learned that the hard way and tried a lot of different methods before I decided to de-wick mine. Worked great after that and so, that's what I do with all of my atties now before I even prime them.
Totally understand what your talking about. It's much easier to take an atomizer out of the box and use it immediately. Then have great performance to add to the convenience. It's much better then getting rid of the primer and de-wicking. How do you like the cannon tips? It's weird that the whole time I've been using 306's I never got one of those. Anyways, you might wanna get one of these too:
306 Imperial
It's the 306 Imperial and looks kind of like a cannon but, it's a SS drip tip. I personally think it's EXTREMELY nice. The problem is that their CC system is down. So, that's what I'm waiting for too.
Overall, I think it's great that your happy with them and finding a use for your atties. To me, they are perfect for the REO and don't have the slightly muted flavor compared to cartos. Thank you so much for your opinions and review of these atties. Really eager to try them for myself when they get here.
Cool, hope you like them as much as I do.
I'm a clean freak too when it comes to attys. Not as bad as I used to be because they are working better for me.
But I still clean them every 3 days approx.
I have to thank the HH-357 and all the enthusiastic reviews for getting me back on the atty wagon.
Its the technique in use and cleaning the HH that has all my other attys working great for me as well.
I went a couple weeks without a carto going at all. I admit I have one Grand with a carto back on it at 3.7v
Its my grab and go unit that I know will always perform well. For the little amount I use it I can go 3-4 weeks with the same batt/bottle/carto. Its nice to have one that I know will do the trick with no fiddling.
If I grab a atty REO I have to remember if its charged enough or when I put the atty on.
(thats gets hard to do when you have 7 going)
I'm a clean freak too when it comes to attys. Not as bad as I used to be because they are working better for me.
But I still clean them every 3 days approx.
I have to thank the HH-357 and all the enthusiastic reviews for getting me back on the atty wagon.
Its the technique in use and cleaning the HH that has all my other attys working great for me as well.
I went a couple weeks without a carto going at all. I admit I have one Grand with a carto back on it at 3.7v
Its my grab and go unit that I know will always perform well. For the little amount I use it I can go 3-4 weeks with the same batt/bottle/carto. Its nice to have one that I know will do the trick with no fiddling.
If I grab a atty REO I have to remember if its charged enough or when I put the atty on.
(thats gets hard to do when you have 7 going)
Quick update .....
I'm still just rocking the 306 version at the moment. 4 of them to be exact.
I don't know if they do need a break in or if they have some mfg schmutz in them when new.
But they all performed much better after the first cleaning. As I said the first go around with them I lost the flavor after a solid day of vaping.
I'm pretty stoked. I kinda wished I got more 306 and less 510 but I will get my moneys worth out of all of them.
I'm always paranoid that things will change in production so I might just drop another 95 bucks and get 10 more of the 306 with no bridge/wicking so I know they will be here and ready to go.
I'm still just rocking the 306 version at the moment. 4 of them to be exact.
I don't know if they do need a break in or if they have some mfg schmutz in them when new.
But they all performed much better after the first cleaning. As I said the first go around with them I lost the flavor after a solid day of vaping.
I'm pretty stoked. I kinda wished I got more 306 and less 510 but I will get my moneys worth out of all of them.
I'm always paranoid that things will change in production so I might just drop another 95 bucks and get 10 more of the 306 with no bridge/wicking so I know they will be here and ready to go.
Oh, and ya the cannon drip tips are kinda weird feeling at first but they are hands down my favorite 306 DT.
Second would be the 306/510 adapter with a pawn on top.
I hate the skinny delrin or any clear drip tips .... I don't like to see my juice
Second would be the 306/510 adapter with a pawn on top.
I hate the skinny delrin or any clear drip tips .... I don't like to see my juice
Thanks for the info. I've been using the reg 510 Cisco 1.5 LRs exclusively. I really wanna give the brushless a try now.
I've been following this thread and went to the Avid site to give their atomizers a look. Anyone know the differences between these atomizers being reviewed and the AERO bridgeless 306's? Or can someone point me to a discussion of them here on ECF?
Thanks!
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