There is an auction happening right now for a Caravala on facebook....its up to 1500.00....
Classified Mark Up Jerks.
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If you don't utilize the tools that are available for reporting things on this forum I don't see how you can even complain.
There is a Profiteering form that gets info sent directly to staff. It DOES get checked out thoroughly.
There is now a 20% mark up cap on retail of items that are still available - if you see things that violate this, report it, don't just gripe about it.
All reports are checked out that are submitted from all over the forum, you may not see what action is taken (unless it is like a deleted or edited post) as it is kept confidential between staff and the reported member.
There is the Report Triangle at the bottom of every post...
Posting in a thread "a mod should look at this"...really ? How does that let anyone other than those that read that particular thread know anything is going on ?
We sure can't twist someone's arm to make them reply back to a post ! Maybe they felt saying nothing was better than what they might have said ?
Seriously, it is amazing how well the system works when it is used.
I am really impressed with the system in place. I haven't had a bad transaction on the site. And the profiteering report form was a great idea to cut down on the bad dealers out there!
I've used the reporting system about 5-6 times and nothing visibly changes on our ends. The ad has stayed up and the price has remained the same every time.
The problem with allowing edits of the original post is that some of these items sell within 15 minutes, which is too short amount of time to report, react and perform an investigation I propose temporary revoking of classified access on the first offense. Permanent removal upon the second.
The problem with allowing edits of the original post is that some of these items sell within 15 minutes, which is too short amount of time to report, react and perform an investigation I propose temporary revoking of classified access on the first offense. Permanent removal upon the second.
Just because it is sold and closed...does not mean that it won't be checked out or action taken...again, actions might not be visible to other members.
If you see something and report it...believe me it is checked out.
according to your own post he is within the rules of 20% what is there to check out? that he ignored the offer of less then he is asking? i would probably ignore a lowball offer also to be honest.
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OMG! I can't believe this is even still being discussed! If you don't like the price, walk the hell away. I mean if I pulled up at a guys house and he had a mint condition 64 Impala and was asking $500,000 for it, I ain't running to the police and saying "Hey, this ain't fair, he shouldn't be able to do that! That car only cost $1,900 new, so he shouldn't be able to sell for so much. You need to go make him drop the price!" Nope...I'll walk away. If someone thinks $500,000 is a good price, let them buy it! I know this is probably not a great example but the fact is, if someone has something that nobody will ever be able to purchase again (new), they have the right to place what ever value they want on it and if someone wants it bad enough, they'll pay for it. If that's not you....move on!
Now we have a reasonable system in place preventing people from buying up hard to get devices just to turn around and sell it for a profit. If you find one report it. If you choose not to report it, stop complaining about it and move on. GheeFreakingWhiz!
Now we have a reasonable system in place preventing people from buying up hard to get devices just to turn around and sell it for a profit. If you find one report it. If you choose not to report it, stop complaining about it and move on. GheeFreakingWhiz!
People who pay the markup support the markup as well. A really simple yet oh so impractical solution would be for everybody to stop buying stuff that's ridiculously marked up. Profiteers would be forced to drop the price or lose their money. I don't understand how it's any more complex than "If you don't like the price, then don't buy it." Don't support people who don't care for the community and you won't have them in your community. Why give your money to jerks in the first place? That's basically inviting them to be jerks some more.
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I can buy whatever i want at any price I see fit, caring for the community shouldn't include you standing in my way of that.
I'm not here to stand in your way! Pay the price you think is fair. That's how things are supposed to be. A seller determines a price and if the buyer agrees, they buy it. If not, they don't. It's really no different from buying a high-end mod straight from the people who make them. You think the net value of those things is anywhere near what you're actually paying? Of course it isn't. The seller determines the value depending on the market. They'd be fools not to ask for as much as someone would be willing to pay, especially with rarities.
What I'm saying is that people who really think the prices are unfair are free not to buy. It's not robbery when you give them the money. It sucks you can't always get what you want, but there are a lot of things out there (beyond vape gear) we all want that are so ridiculously marked up to the point where we can't afford it. But that's the price you sometimes have to pay for a free, open market. It's also what makes common items cheaper.
I just think it's one bad aspect of what is an otherwise good structure.
I feel like I really need to get verified just to get a look at this for myself. I just can't see it being quite what it's purported as.
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I just don't buy stuff that is over retail from the classies. If someone wants to pay $500 for an ihybrid that has a different design...good for them.
As for not responding to offers, I have gotten some pretty crazy offers from people and also tons of requests to split items when I say "Will not split" explicitly. I don't respond to the folks who didn't read the ad or offer ridiculous amounts/trades, I do respond to any reasonable offer.
As for not responding to offers, I have gotten some pretty crazy offers from people and also tons of requests to split items when I say "Will not split" explicitly. I don't respond to the folks who didn't read the ad or offer ridiculous amounts/trades, I do respond to any reasonable offer.
This isn't the issue. The issue is with people who are buying brand new mods with the intent to sell at a sky rocketed price! Are you guys reading the whole thread lol?
New mod released for say $250
Guy buys one never uses it
Waits a week an sells it for $500 when there are none left, so they are the only route I buy from.
Folks who wanted one for a reasonable price miss out.
There I tried my best to spell it out for you
Op don't let anyone tell you this thread makes no sense. I agree with you totally. It sucks trying to get a product that you would actually use and have someone sell it for loads more. It's funny that the ihybrid was available every other week and now its not.
This is what I don't like. Man, it's happened in several hobbies I've been in. I just wish that people with the intent of reselling stuff wouldn't, and let those who wanted the product get it in the first place. It's not that they're doing anything wrong or against the rules, it's disheartening to a fan of the hobby.
There's a difference. Buying one, keeping it, and deciding to sell it later vs the entire reason they bought it in the first place was to sell it.
Joker, I like the 64 impala analogy. I used to have one I was going to restore into a lowrider but didn't have the funds at the time.
It's supply and demand guys. It is sad that people mark up that much but if someone is willing to pay that much someone is always willing to sell it for that much..We really don't know how affluent some of our fellow members are. Maybe they have the means where if they want something right now at this moment they have the means to make that happen and paying two or three times what something is worth is old hat to them.
It's supply and demand guys. It is sad that people mark up that much but if someone is willing to pay that much someone is always willing to sell it for that much..We really don't know how affluent some of our fellow members are. Maybe they have the means where if they want something right now at this moment they have the means to make that happen and paying two or three times what something is worth is old hat to them.
Well I didn't expect this to turn into an argument. lol. I was just stating my frustrations, and I see a lot of good people on here who feel the same way.
Now how do I close this thing lol.
Now how do I close this thing lol.
This is a bit ridiculous. It's called capitalism. If money is that much of an issue for some people then maybe they shouldn't even be paying retail for $250 mods that do the same thing as a $50 mod. Just like when you smoked cigarettes. You could light it with a pack of matches that were free at the gas station, or you could buy a $5000.00 Limited Edition S.T. Dupont lighter. If these mark-ups were preventing you from vaping then I might get the argument, but they're not. They are just stopping you from vaping on something that even at retail, costs more than 99% of the mods out there.
Yes I understand that,
But, the other point I was trying to make is that the money that people spend on a mod should go to the mod maker. Not the person who wants to raise the price on the classifieds, so community members get scammed.
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