CLETO vs BATTERY VOLTAGE

[afishhunter]

Here's the deal:
Cleto tank, standard 0.4Ω coil.
Mods use an 18650 battery or batteries.
My mods:
RX200/TC200W 3 batteries in series.
TC100W 2 batteries in paralell
Pico 1 battery.
As you know, the 18650 is rated at 3.7 volts.

The CLETO at 35.0 watts uses 3.83 volts. At the "minimum" recommended 40.0 watts, it uses 4.10 volts. (above 40 watts the voltage goes up, of course) Either way, it is exceeding the voltage rating of the battery or batteries used singularly or in paralell.

How is this safe? Over drawing a battery stresses the battery and can/will cause the battery to blow.

Is the CLETO designed and intended only for mods using two or more batteries in series? (paralell the voltage remains the same)

 

[Topwater Elvis]

In a regulated power device the battery(s) supply power to the chipset
(Input)
The chip powers the delivery device (output)
The batteries are not connected to the delivery device, they do not directly power the delivery device or are they effected by / see the resistance.

The chip/regulator draws amps from the batteries to create the power output settings the user desires.

A fully charged battery is 4.2v, time to recharge around 3 - 3.6ish depending on your power devises low voltage cutoff.
As voltage decreases amp demand increases. Just before & at low voltage cutoff amp demand will be highest.

This is why using batteries with a suffeciant CDR to safley supply the amp demands of the chip is important.

 

[Eskie]

Be careful with those "recommended" wattage ratings. They're usually inflated. A 0.4 ohm coil will not be a problem on any of the regulated mods you list. Start out low (~20W?) with a fresh, well primed coil, an slowly raise the wattage until you reach your personal "sweet spot". It may very well be less than the "recommended" 40W, or not.

 

[afishhunter]

I run between 28.5 and 35 watts.
No "need" to run higher, I get good flavor and cloud at the lower sertings.
My TFV4's on the otherhand ... minimum 68.5 watts. They're only on a triple battery mod, for battery life.

 

[Eskie]

30 to 35W are fine on any of those mods. Obviously 35W on a single battery will go out faster than a mod with 2 or more. The only other factor is making sure you have decent, authentic batteries. And yeah, 70W belongs on the multi-battery mods. I don't have a TFV4 (or 8), but they really take that much power? Must make some serious clouds with that.

 

[afishhunter]

30 to 35W are fine on any of those mods. Obviously 35W on a single battery will go out faster than a mod with 2 or more. The only other factor is making sure you have decent, authentic batteries. And yeah, 70W belongs on the multi-battery mods. I don't have a TFV4 (or 8), but they really take that much power? Must make some serious clouds with that.

I don't have the TFV8, either. Based on the reviews I found on line, I don't want one. The TFV8 reviews all found a mimimun of 100 plus watts were required before any vapor or flavor. No thankee.
I've tried the TFV4 as low as 40 watts (replaced the coil, breaking it in at 40) nothing. My old Spinner II at 4.0 volts at 2.0 Ω with a tootle puff tank made more vapor. At 68.5Ω, I think I am at the low end. The triple burner coil is rated to 140Ω, I think. I've met a couple brave souls who use them at over 120 watts. (I've no clue how they handle the heat)