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I bought an Infinite Stingray clone on ebay and guess what? I got a clone of a clone! Pretty obvious as the Infinite has another part. Also its awful. The threads don't work. Yeah, I know, clones have poor threading, but this is really bad compared to my others.

I got one from there as well and it's going back.

The switch on the one I got came with a broken paper thin magnet. :mad:
 

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Got pics? My friend bought a Stingray clone after seeing how nice mine was, which he bought for my birthday. Mines an "A-mod"? I've never heard of them before but this black copper Stingray hits hard and looks great. His is also "black copper", but where mine has the engraved Stingray logo his just looks screen printed. My switch is magnetic and a little crunchy, but his was spring loaded, now with eBay magnets.

Was yours also a black copper one? Sounds like his? Because that thing is a hunk of crap.
 

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Why do people blame the Clones when it is the Crooked Seller and the Buyers lack of education that brings this crap about?

Reviews, reviews, reviews - FROM USERS
Then Buy what they bought and don't try saving a nickle by grabbing a shady deal.

Think about this:
Fastech - to slow, Bla , BLa, BLa

Fasttech is one of the few sellers that actually warranties what they sell.
Fasttech has already helped a ton of customers to keep them satisfied and coming back.

Don't want Fasttech for the Wait, pay a little more from 101vapes or Angelcig. - Both in the US and NOT EBAY!!!

Hope you get this worked out!
best of luck :)
 

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The Infinite is a 1:1 clone. It should have an 18350 tube, an 18500 tube, an extension for the 18650 and the box says infinite.

What I got says Phimis on the box and has a separate tube for each size battery. Also, the top cap and switch were screwed onto the 18350 tube and should have been packaged seperately in the box.
 

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The Infinite is a 1:1 clone. It should have an 18350 tube, an 18500 tube, an extension for the 18650 and the box says infinite.

What I got says Phimis on the box and has a separate tube for each size battery. Also, the top cap and switch were screwed onto the 18350 tube and should have been packaged seperately in the box.
Most Infinite mods are actually made by SXK. Infinite only makes a handful of mods themselves. (Not really relevant, but I figured people might like to know).
 
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Most Infinite mods are actually made by SKX. Infinite only makes a handful of mods themselves. (Not really relevant, but I figured people might like to know).

Yep, know that.

Ok, its definitely a FT thing with horrible reviews :(

Yes, the seller had very good feedback, and on this mod. Wow, never thought I'd buy a clone and have someone substitute a lesser clone.
 

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So, you are OK with Infinite using Stingray on their box but you are upset that some other company would use Infinite on their box?

You have no problem with Infinite producing a clone, of lesser quality, of the original Stingray and using their name to sell the product but it is wrong for someone else to make an inferior copy of the Infinite copy and use the Infinite name to sell their product?

I can't believe the dishonest people in this world.
 

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So, you are OK with Infinite using Stingray on their box but you are upset that some other company would use Infinite on their box?

You have no problem with Infinite producing a clone, of lesser quality, of the original Stingray and using their name to sell the product but it is wrong for someone else to make an inferior copy of the Infinite copy and use the Infinite name to sell their product?

I can't believe the dishonest people in this world.

No. I'm upset that I bought that particular clone and got a different one. And yes, it matters. The Infinite comes with good reviews, which is why I chose it.

Yes, I realize the irony.

At any rate, is Fluidvapes legit? None of my trusted sellers have the black copper.
 

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So, you are OK with Infinite using Stingray on their box but you are upset that some other company would use Infinite on their box?

You have no problem with Infinite producing a clone, of lesser quality, of the original Stingray and using their name to sell the product but it is wrong for someone else to make an inferior copy of the Infinite copy and use the Infinite name to sell their product?

I can't believe the dishonest people in this world.
Infinite products tend to be of equal (or higher) quality than the original. The SXK V2 Kayfun I have is higher quality than it's Svoemesto counterpart. (Though it could have been a higher quality than average clone compared to a lower quality than average original). :2cents:

Edit: the switch is better on the original stingray, but the Infinite clone comes with a better black coating and an 18650 extension tube.
 
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Maybe it's just me, but the speed with which 1:1 clones are churned out leads me to believe the clones, at least the first runs, are being manufactured by the same people that are making the "legit" versions.

If the clones were coming out a month to two after the initial release I'd be much more inclined to believe that the mods were being bought and copied, but the turn around is just to fast.

It looks to me like the mod designers are farming out production in order to maximize profitability and then crying when it comes back on them.
 

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Maybe it's just me, but the speed with which 1:1 clones are churned out leads me to believe the clones, at least the first runs, are being manufactured by the same people that are making the "legit" versions.

If the clones were coming out a month to two after the initial release I'd be much more inclined to believe that the mods were being bought and copied, but the turn around is just to fast.

It looks to me like the mod designers are farming out production in order to maximize profitability and then crying when it comes back on them.
I have had the same thoughts. It seems to me if you have a product that you know will be cloned and sold at a lesser price then why not fill the slot by selling the clones yourself.
 

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In some cases I'm sure that's true, but I think often the clones are built from promotional pictures of prototype units. I've seen a few instances of "we decided not to use that font/logo in the production version" but the clones have the "old" logo/font. The chinese have turned industrial espionage into an artform, and the internet makes their job easier.
 

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I didn't word the title right. What I meant to say is I bought a clone but was sent an inferior one. So instead of thinking I bought an authentic but was slipped a clone, I bought a clone and was slipped a crummy clone.

My brain is frazzled. I am sick with pancreatitis and colitis. Hay fever and sinus infection. Migraine. I ran over a kitten in my driveway :( Ohio State is playing like poop. And I got cheated on...a clone! And a clone atty that also arrived today has a torn o ring. Ugh.
 
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