And you do know I used the word "venting" on purpose? True, I didn't catch my unintentional pun (although I could be cool and pretend it was intentional), but I don't mind being poked at. I give it, I can take it
Atty made a funny!Cloud chasing and sub ohm foolishness
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And you do know I used the word "venting" on purpose? True, I didn't catch my unintentional pun (although I could be cool and pretend it was intentional), but I don't mind being poked at. I give it, I can take it
Atty made a funny!
And you do know I used the word "venting" on purpose? True, I didn't catch my unintentional pun (although I could be cool and pretend it was intentional), but I don't mind being poked at. I give it, I can take it
I was schooled by the best cats around.
And you fail to see the big picture. A tragedy is waiting to happen if this sub ohm coil thing for uneducated vapors is allowed to continue. It will only take a single instance of something tragic to happen for the media to take off with this in a negative manner. This gets the FDA even more involved and encourages them to make even stricter deeming regulations than what many fear they already have made. One person's tragedy ends up affecting ALL of us.
I don't care if experienced vapors who "know what they are doing" use sub ohm. That's their business. I just think they need to caution new folks in what they need to know first before trying it for themselves.
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Going for melted cheese on toast myself,
I may singe the roof off the top of my mouth,but i will still ENJOY.
Try a bottom-feeder, they are fun! And Vapage is having a sale.
I honestly think there is more than a bit of sensationalism in the whole "you're battery will explode and take off your head" thing. I have heard of exactly 1 instance of a mod exploding in somebody's face...and all I know about that was it was stacked batteries.
It doesn't really help when people post those "my battery exploded" threads when really all that happened is their battery got really hot and *didnt* explode.
I have seen videos of batteries being dead shorted and they don't explode. I saw a video of a battery being purposely made to explode by overcharging and it got super hot and swelled to double it's size first.
The truth is that any battery can fail. You could be vaping a 3ohm coil at 3.7 volts and your battery could fail. Cell phone batteries fail.
If you push a battery too hard, it gets hot. Keep doing it and it gets very hot. Of course, it could fail catestrophically - but it could also do this on your charger.
Just my opinion - but sub ohm vaping is no big deal when done properly. I don't actually like it that much - but at least I've actually tried it.
It doesn't really help when people post those "my battery exploded" threads when really all that happened is their battery got really hot and *didnt* explode.
I have seen videos of batteries being dead shorted and they don't explode. I saw a video of a battery being purposely made to explode by overcharging and it got super hot and swelled to double it's size first.
The truth is that any battery can fail. You could be vaping a 3ohm coil at 3.7 volts and your battery could fail. Cell phone batteries fail.
If you push a battery too hard, it gets hot. Keep doing it and it gets very hot. Of course, it could fail catestrophically - but it could also do this on your charger.
Just my opinion - but sub ohm vaping is no big deal when done properly. I don't actually like it that much - but at least I've actually tried it.
I think this would have to be a perfect storm type of thing with lots of small negative things lining up to make an epic failure.
Im sure it will happen one of these days just to put it in to perspective Ive never herd of this happening but I have seen pictures and read many posts of ego type batteries going thermal, causing burns or property damage.
I think the grater risk is people not getting educated in using every day devices properly rather than some people tweaking their attys.
And this is the point of our arguments, somehow the defensive people come in to these threads, twist it around and try to make it sound like we are saying don't ever do this. when all we ask is you make sure you know what exactly your doing.
I watch the guys at gg in their subforum doing low ohm coils but they also talk extensively about the batteries, the limits and testing with charts and information to the minutest detail posted all over. not - durrr i gotz .2ohms
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No, I see the big picture, AND understand it. I don't think subohm is the risky thing. If you ask me mech mods themselves are the riskiest thing about subohm vaping.
Most actual battery explosions I've heard of have been related to charging. Damage to the battery itself can cause venting and fire (but by nature doesn't allow the battery itself to explode).
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It's probably more of a "margin of safety" issue. The lower you deliberately wind a low-ohm coil, the easier it is to get to zero or so close to zero that it won't matter when something shorts.
Not all "shorts" are zero ohm. Dead shorts are. But sometimes 2 coils touch, or a coil touches the housing, and it's a short but there's still some resistance. But if you're already at .3 ohms normally.........
The shorted battery pic/vid doesn't show venting gas volume. It does show swelling of the battery sometimes. The "boom" comes from a mod that doesn't/can't vent the pressure. Some battery types and configs are worse than others. Also some vents are worse than others. <---- all amateur assumptions admittedly.
Not all "shorts" are zero ohm. Dead shorts are. But sometimes 2 coils touch, or a coil touches the housing, and it's a short but there's still some resistance. But if you're already at .3 ohms normally.........
The shorted battery pic/vid doesn't show venting gas volume. It does show swelling of the battery sometimes. The "boom" comes from a mod that doesn't/can't vent the pressure. Some battery types and configs are worse than others. Also some vents are worse than others. <---- all amateur assumptions admittedly.
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Here's the other thing:
If you used, say, 34 ga or whatever on a mech, and it shorted in the coil wire enough to draw a lot of amps through the coil, there's a good chance (not guarantee) that it will melt the coil quickly...like a fuse. However, if you're using 28 ga, 26 ga... you're screwed.
If you used, say, 34 ga or whatever on a mech, and it shorted in the coil wire enough to draw a lot of amps through the coil, there's a good chance (not guarantee) that it will melt the coil quickly...like a fuse. However, if you're using 28 ga, 26 ga... you're screwed.
ProVape needs to come out with a ProVari that has VW, eGo threading and can handle sub-ohm. Their technology is so last summer.
Something in the title I didn't notice being addressed. Why bother chasing the huge cloud? Was the goal when smoking to be able to suck down the whole cigarette in one huge draw and set off smoke detectors?
Not criticizing, to each their own. Just pointing out the sub-ohm thing wouldn't exist if the cloud chasing didn't exist. But I suppose one mentality chases the other.
Not criticizing, to each their own. Just pointing out the sub-ohm thing wouldn't exist if the cloud chasing didn't exist. But I suppose one mentality chases the other.
then they will cost 300$ Lets leave the VW to Evolve and VV to provape then we get two awesome devices rather than one OK
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