Cloud chasing and sub ohm foolishness

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dr g

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Okay. I'm concerned about one dim bulb on the Christmas tree having an accident that might be blasted all over the news as another example of how dangerous e-cigarettes are. If it wasn't a hot button issue, where my ability to purchase products could be restricted, I couldn't care less. Why do you care?

The general angle most anti-subohm crusaders take is one of ignorance, which is never good. The promotion of ignorance through unnecessarily broad proclamations about something are the same forces that would take away your vaping rights in the example you give.

Here's one of the memorable threads. New vapor just received a new mech mod from a vape shop. The salesman sells him an rba to go with it which the salesman set up himself, probably not giving the kid any instruction or cautions. The kid doesn't know the resistance of the coil, doesn't own a multimeter and isn't sure what one is for. He starts the thread complaining about his setup no longer working. Mod and battery are "really hot" and he collapses two hot springs in a roll. Then asks, "Did I do something wrong?"

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/rebuildable-atomizer-systems/426176-mechanical-mod-rba-safety-question.html

Let's see, it was a .9 ohm coil (note: a Pbusardo approved resistance), he was sold AW batteries and a poldiac, hot spring, he has an ohmmeter, you made a bunch of assumptions and talked down bigtime on the OP, and as a result he left the thread. That is EXACTLY the kind of behavior that doesn't help.
 

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I agree with ocelot if you know what you are doing and understand the risk you take have at it and take a pic for us.

whats getting out of hand is
"hi everyone moving up from my ego, and dont know what mod to get, i seen a youtoo video and Urp De Durp can I haz epic cloudz too?"
 
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I think it may be getting Close to Waffle Time.
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"Battery may explode or fire if mistreated"
printed on every panasonic battery.

posted everywhere i buy them -
"Do not short positive, and negative contacts"

Cant find the post but when people state they made a coil and were shooting for .4 ohm's but "hey i dont really know I didnt even check it", but next time im going for .2ohms)
Sooner or later it's gonna happen LOL


https://batteryworkshop.msfc.nasa.g...st_Panasonic_Li-Ion_NCR_18650_Cells_JRead.pdf

Going on and on about potential for explosion and death if the risk of it actually happening is low to nil is counterproductive -- it is fodder for regulation.
 
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Let's see, it was a .9 ohm coil (note: a Pbusardo approved resistance), he was sold AW batteries and a poldiac, hot spring, he has an ohmmeter, you made a bunch of assumptions and talked down bigtime on the OP, and as a result he left the thread. That is EXACTLY the kind of behavior that doesn't help.
Hot mod and hot battery. Hmmm. Two collapsed hot springs. Hmmmmm. The kid had an obvious hard short and didn't recognize it nor the obvious red flags that experienced vapors could. Made a bunch of assumptions? I asked plenty of questions, only a few were answered by OP.

The fact that he hadn't done his homework on RBA usage and didn't even know why a multimeter would be useful showed me he had no business using that RBA yet. And the salesman had no business selling it to him without some teaching on his end first and encouraging him to educate himself before allowing him to use it.

I admitted in that thread that I came down hard on him. It was the wrong approach for that situation. But I was so amazed that this could happen I reacted in a non-professional manner. Excuse me for being human.

I learned from the experience. I created the blog to provide some necessary resource links to help get someone like that started in the right direction, and to this day I provide that link to those who can benefit from it. They still need to do the homework themselves. I'm not their babysitter.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/
 
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All of what your nice people are saying is true about safety but as for my self I spend 3 monthes surfing threw ecf u tube and other forums about sub ohm and if you have all you need for safety guess what it's as safe as any regulated PV out there 30 amp batt multi metter safety fuse and 8 months of rebuilding 3 attys a week 1 genny and 2 dripers that's 100 or so rebuilds as I will say again if you know what you are doing it is safe !
 

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OK. I don't think we'll get anyone to admit it but it would only be fair to ask. I asked this before too in that thread you linked to Baditude...

And I preface this with a firm conviction that SLR in not necessary. However, it's a free country. So, the question is:

Has anyone ever blown up an IMR on a mech with a dead short or sub-ohm vaping? And if yes, which was it? Did the mech handle the venting? (we're not talking stacked batteries here, nor other chemistry other than IMR or hybrids labeled IMR).
 

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And I admitted in that thread that I came down hard on him. It was the wrong approach for that situation. But I was so amazed that this could happen I was reacting in a not professional manner.

I learned from the experience. I created the blog to provide some necessary resource links to help get someone like that started in the right direction, and to this day I provide that link to those who can benefit from it. They still need to do the homework themself. I'm not their babysitter.

Sounds like that thread ought to be forgotten then, not held up as some kind of example. You have no idea how much that person knew about vaping.
 

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They tell me not to stack batteries, but I do. Every laptop out there does exactly the same thing.

I vape 7.4 volts on a 5 ohm coil a good percentage of the time. Am I afraid, NO. Can problems occur? Possibly. But I try to educate myself on battery types and how to handle any problem, like shorts. I've used sub-ohm coils, but I prefer the high voltage side. And I'm not going to stop driving just because there are a few idiots on the road. If you want 750 horsepower in your Geo Tracker, more power to you. I'm happy that you found your sweet spot.
 

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You do know AttyPops was just funnin' at your ironic - intentional or otherwise - choice of wording? I had to re-read twice (the hi-lighted part...) before I got the funny. We all now AttyPop's position on this topic.

She was double-punning. (venting :laugh:)

Really? My somewhat-fair and cautious position is well known? :)
 
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