Cloud chasing and sub ohm foolishness
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Lol, you do realise Hookahs were invented 500years ago, just how old are you.
Yeah, originally I wrote that as most Americans but rewrote the whole sentence. I caught that a little later and just didn't bother to fix it.
There is no way to reduce any risk of being run over by a Truck there is how ever ways to minimize the risk of sub OHMing. So this analogy may be a dramatic way to make a point but a non applicable. If your batteries and mod are capable of handling the current this risk is no more or less grater than putting a 1.5 OHM coil on a AW.
Thats the part everybody over looks There are batteries that can handle the amp load. We simply need to educate the the people wanting to tweak and experiment get a multimeter, understand what the batteries you are using are capable of. Know how to figure how many amps you are pulling with what ever set up you are playing with.
With a little knowledge and proper equipment sub ohm can be used a safe as any thing else.
Again the problem is not the person who hurts them selves when they do something in a unsafe manner. The problem is the people who want to decide what is best for you. They are the ones who are trying to insert their control over your life. Those are the people who and or agency we need to confront and change.
Not if he has a battery with a 30 amp limit
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I think this thread is over lol. With all due respect, you might want to learn a thimbleful of humility. Many of us have BTDT and some still are.
Well, I'll let you two fight that one out privately. I respect those that fight for individual rights...and don't think the government is going to "regulate" sub-ohm stuff. lol. It's not possible since it can all be built by hand. So that's not the point.
The point isn't "should it be outlawed?" The point is Joe Shmo that doesn't know any better thinking that it's mainstream and/or safe and/or cool. Particularly when there's no need for it. It may be a gimmick to sell mechs. Or charge fees for winding coils. IDK. But it seems like a gimmick as much as a fad to me. Maybe it's a cover-up for other activities. All of the above? Who knows for sure?
But it all comes back to...how unsafe is it? Doing anything unwisely can get ya killed. Including walking.
The point isn't "should it be outlawed?" The point is Joe Shmo that doesn't know any better thinking that it's mainstream and/or safe and/or cool. Particularly when there's no need for it. It may be a gimmick to sell mechs. Or charge fees for winding coils. IDK. But it seems like a gimmick as much as a fad to me. Maybe it's a cover-up for other activities. All of the above? Who knows for sure?
But it all comes back to...how unsafe is it? Doing anything unwisely can get ya killed. Including walking.
My mango juice tastes fantastic at .3 ohm.
Hey ! My beautiful face is still here
My Mango tastes better than your Mango
The bottom line is I know what I like best, and it doesn't matter to me what someone else likes best. I wrap my coils to satisfy me, and no one else. So I wrap "sub TWO ohm coils".
Good points, all, my friend.
I hope nobody here wants to outlaw it. I certainly do not. I also would defend the rights of sub-ohm vapers to continue to do it, even though I am not one of them.
I think the "people who fret over sub-ohm" group is most worried about an explosion, injury/death, and subsequent media circus that will be used as a way to demonstrate just "how dangerous the e-cigarettes are, particularly to children". This spectacular injury could be used as a means to regulate all vaping, not just sub-ohm. It is kinda sad that (I suspect) most of the posters on this thread agree that we don't want that to happen, but we seem to always get mired into the minutia of our differences.
We can debate the danger level of sub-ohm, we can debate the battery 'actual' danger level. I think there is some danger, I like what some of the posters here are doing by creating resources for new sub-ohm vapors to get information from.
well im vapin at .5ohms and lovin it! i do have a degree in electronic engineering, and a simple dc resistance circuit is something i can solve in my sleep. to each his own, everybody has the right to find what they like, and do it. i dont see what the big deal is? u people act like sub ohm vapors r gonna take away ur right to vape! bishopheals is the "god father" of sub ohm vaping and he does a good job of preaching safety! as well as the right batteries to use. so it aint gonna blow up ur house just leave it alone!
The problem is new uneducated/ininformed people, not people like you or I or others that understand DC circuits. I have recently ran into an electrician at a vape shop I'm a regular at that was having problems when he used his .2 ohm coil. He was wondering why the coil wasn't heating up quickly with and why his alkaline C sized batteries batteries were getting too hot to touch when he used it. I asked him why on earth he was using alkalines. First words out of his mouth: "I'm an electrician, I know what I'm doing. I wanted to try sub ohm and didn't want to buy those $15 batteries. I crimped some leads to a broken eGo and it's just what I use." It looked horribly unsafe with the uninsulated crimp connectors he was using. The center pin looked crimped via a piece of metal pressed in it. I didn't see a fuse either. It's crap like this that can ruin it for us.
Personally I'm running a box mod with 2x matched life NCR18650PDs in parallel with a mini 10A quick fuse on each battery lead, everything is soldered together with 10AWG, using a 510 adapter as the connector and a 25A specialized low voltage momentary switch. I run .7 ohms regularly without any problems. There is an even draw from each of the batteries. I challenge you to find something unsafe about this setup besides its sheer discharge ability if it were to get damaged/crushed.
Edit: I just thought about throwing a thermistor on each of the cases for battery temperature considerations... Hmmm...
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I usually run .4 to .8 of 28A1 and have never had any issues. Its all about the build. That said, i wouldn't be caught running a gen that low without a PCB on the cell like i see so many people doing. Just my two cents 
Holy crap! 10awg wiring????
I would really love to see a pic of that setup. No sarcasm here. I really would love to see a pic.
Since I built this thing on a whim (Idea conceived Saturday around 7:00am, build starting 10:15am, finished 11:00am), it's in a radioshack 4"x2"x1" project box with a messy switch cutout. Needless to say, it's super tight in there. I had some rather flexible(car aduio speaker wire if I'm not mistaken) 10AWG wiring sitting around.
I'll snap a pic next time I have it open and post it in the mod section.
It might be during the box transplant process. I'll probably add a USB port for charging because I don't like unscrewing the tank to charge it via the 510 port that's been soldered to my 18650 charger. Haha.
I'll snap a pic next time I have it open and post it in the mod section.
It might be during the box transplant process. I'll probably add a USB port for charging because I don't like unscrewing the tank to charge it via the 510 port that's been soldered to my 18650 charger. Haha.
Maybe gmb225 can comment further. For me, I can't find a kink in that parallel box armor. As long as it has a 10A fuse on EACH battery.
I've been wondering why all these sub-ohmers don't use parallel circuits. But I also know that if one battery disconnects for some reason that it could over-stress the other. So...the fuses fix that.
Nice build.
You're still a wild and crazy vaper! No need for that low of ohms. But to each their own.
Got a link for that switch?
Yep! In this box, changing the fuse would require desoldering it. Haha. It's annoying that it adds a good bit of resistance to the overall circuit in comparison to the solder joints in the rest of the box.Maybe gmb225 can comment further. For me, I can't find a kink in that parallel box armor. As long as it has a 10A fuse on EACH battery.
I've been wondering why all these sub-ohmers don't use parallel circuits. But I also know that if one battery disconnects for some reason that it could over-stress the other. So...the fuses fix that.
Nice build.
You're still a wild and crazy vaper! No need for that low of ohms. But to each their own.
Got a link for that switch?
Well, if you could recommend something that could give me similar results as a .8 ohm micro coil somehow using less power, I'd be willing to try it.
Hmmm... I'll have to do some digging, as I got it out of some equipment way back when.
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Glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks parallel batteries makes sense. In essence, I converted an ego into a 2XAA box with 2 14550. Atty's mentioning of one disconnecting got me thinking of something unrelated. Before making this box I asked one person I knew in electronics and looked at only one online resource to answer, usually I get more input before moving on something. The question - If I leave them in the box and use the ego connector to charge, is there a balance issue? I know the board only sees them as 1 cell and I charged them separately with the same charger before hooking everything up.
Unless you have some significant difference in resistance in the wiring going to the cells, no. There are many single channel chargers for 2 batts. The only thing is that the batteries have to of had a similar life on them for maximum stability. This subject goes rather deep. It's much more important for series connected cells, but it shouldn't be ignored for the parallel sets. See how Electric Vehicles control their battery systems. High end systems monitor and control charging of each cell individually to prevent damage or failure in a bank of unknown life cells. Even with matched life cells, they can have different characteristics. I digress.
You should be fine.
FGSP!
Take the batteries out and charge them in a dual-channel charger the right way and swap in a new pair. Takes 10 seconds.
Otherwise you end up splitting the charge and it takes twice as long for no reason and puts the mod out of commission.
Take the batteries out and charge them in a dual-channel charger the right way and swap in a new pair. Takes 10 seconds.
Otherwise you end up splitting the charge and it takes twice as long for no reason and puts the mod out of commission.
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