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Really hot? No idea. But does it get cold there? How hot does the heating element in their heaters get? I'd imagine there are other sources of heat around as well and those dont seem to be a problem. But I'm no expert, so.
A device working properly with adequate liquid isn't a problem, the liquid will keep coil temps down
However, if the coil gets dry, temps can -rapidly- spiral well beyond the flas point of gas vapour in air. Fuel air mix waiting for an ignition source is not something to screw around with.
Also, just about any malfunction has the potential to create an arc. Fuel air plus arc equals boom.
However, if the coil gets dry, temps can -rapidly- spiral well beyond the flas point of gas vapour in air. Fuel air mix waiting for an ignition source is not something to screw around with.
Also, just about any malfunction has the potential to create an arc. Fuel air plus arc equals boom.
250 - 400F ..... but considering the amount of gas/air mixture would have to be perfect and pulled into the atty when the atty was dryburning hot enuf to ignite the fuel/air mix is probably about as good as a chance of someone scuffing around with shoes on that has a tack stuck in the bottom that could make a spark.... or while getting in/out of a car and have static electricity spark set off the gas....
the coil in a gas oven needs to be glowing yellow even before it will ignite the gas..... ( which is about 1100F)
the coil in a gas oven needs to be glowing yellow even before it will ignite the gas..... ( which is about 1100F)
We'll I know kanthal wire starts to glowing red at 400 degrees. Flashpoint for natural gas is 530 degrees ish. And I have never seen my coils burning red. I think there is about as much chance as our tablets in our trucks catching fire as starting a fire with our vaping gear but hey ... do I know.
Anyone else having these issue at work
Anyone else having these issue at work
There must be other people on this forum that work for the same North American garbage company I work for. What are your policies.
Disclaimer; I've never checked coil temps when vaping, so this is my opinion only.
As long as your wicks are wet the max temperature in the atty should be below 600 deg F. Once the wick dries out though the temperature will go up fast and what it ends up at is a crap shoot, but it's gonna be high.
I just looked up the ignition temperature of natural gas and I got a minimum of 900 deg F. IMO a dry coil can hit that temp, no problem.
I would not vape in a possibly explosive atmosphere. It's just not worth the risk. Being burned hurts like heck! It's also not only about atty temperature. A spark could ignite natural gas also and mech mods make a small spark each time you hit the button and there is nothing you can do to stop that. This is probably much less of a risk with regulated mods, but again, it's not a risk I would want to take.
Vape safe Crf450
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Thanks for the replies. I should have mentioned I was quoting Celsius ( canada eh).
I think this falls under the category of ..... We don't know so we are going to ban it....
I think this falls under the category of ..... We don't know so we are going to ban it....
I suggest that is they have leaks with sufficient quantity of gas to cause an explosion, e-cigs are the least of their worries.
Time to do some maintenance eh
It is pretty easy to know the coil temp with a DNA40 board.. mine never gets over 420F +- 10 degrees.
Time to do some maintenance eh
It is pretty easy to know the coil temp with a DNA40 board.. mine never gets over 420F +- 10 degrees.
No Crf450. I'm Canadian and I took the deg C to deg F difference into account in my post.
Banning vaping for no good reason is not cool with me and I say so when that is an issue. In this case you're not 'getting it'. If you work in an environment that is explosive and you want to vape there, that's just not safe. If you know something that I don't about your work environment that changes this, please tell us.
A little story.
Here in NH, plumbers used to install LPG lines for residential heating in rural areas with no public natural gas service. In the town of Moultonboro one such line was installed several years ago at a new home. The family moved in to their new home, and everything seemed happy.
What no one knew at the time was that there was a pinhole leak in the line. One calm, windless summer day, the leaking lp gas built up a blivet in a natural bowl formed in the back yard. When the blivet ignited, it damaged the back of the house, and took the family's four year old daughter with it. No one really knows what the source of ignition may have been, but from the scorch and force patterns of the explosion, fire experts are quite sure that's what happened.
That's the level of tragedy it took to mandate gas line certification in the state of NH.
I can appreciate that it bugs you being told you can't vape at work. I think Ryedan would agree that sucks, and is usually cause for at least some pushback. However, if you aren't going to bother considering opinions contrary to the one your obviously wanted to hear, why bother framing your little snit fit as a question?
Yup.
To be fair, I can easily see why a company would ban vaping around sources of potential gas leaks, it is a reasonable precaution.
WOW. Come here to get some information and it turns into a snit fit. What a jack.
thanks Dzaw for making me feel welcome
thanks Dzaw for making me feel welcome
alright... I just back from the kitchen after completing an experiment.... I took my mechmod with an Tohb atty .44 ohms parallel build... put in a fresh battery, pressed switch button to verify it would glow ... it did, went into kitchen and removed the grate from the gas stove and turned gas on to see where the flames come out, turned off stove to kill flame, turned gas back on but not to where it was allowed to auto ignite from the stove, moved the atty/mod into position and pressed switch on mod, coils glowed orangy yellow and no ignition of gas... repeated 3 more times, no ignition....
conclusion.... a dual set of coils on a mech mod in dry burn state did not ignite a gas flow 4 out of 4 times... assumptions that can be made from conclusion... serioulsy doubt that vaping in an enviroment where LPGNG is present but un noticable ( smell wise) will cause the earth to end...
conclusion.... a dual set of coils on a mech mod in dry burn state did not ignite a gas flow 4 out of 4 times... assumptions that can be made from conclusion... serioulsy doubt that vaping in an enviroment where LPGNG is present but un noticable ( smell wise) will cause the earth to end...
and besides... if the gas leak was strong enuf to cause an explosion, someone would have smelled the leak... and why would anyone be vaping with a gas leak of a magnitude that could cause an explosion?? 
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One of our staff members borrowed a Fluke thermometer from work and tested his Cyclone dripper on a Hana V3. The thermometer maxes out at 360C. A dry burn on the dripper maxed the thermometer out almost immediately on a sub ohm build.
Even with saturated wicks, the temps on a sub ohm build reached 268C.
Vaping around natural gas? Nope. Don't do it.
Edit -- What you may want to do is find a compromise where an indoor location is authorized for vaping.
Even with saturated wicks, the temps on a sub ohm build reached 268C.
Vaping around natural gas? Nope. Don't do it.
Edit -- What you may want to do is find a compromise where an indoor location is authorized for vaping.
My conclusion would be that your setup did as it was supposed to. When around explosive gasses, you also want to account for gear that has a potential for doing something else than it's supposed to. Like arc. Or run dry. Or... or...
Okay I understand vaping in the yard with LNG fuelling station would be a little sketchy. What I don't get is vaping in a truck with LNG. All trucks are equips with sensors if there is a leak. ( red light / green light) on the dash. They have also banned it on all diesel trucks. I know my work can ban whatever they want, I just thought this was a poor excuse to ban vaping. Sorry if I came across as some kind of righteous ahole, can vape wherever I want, I'm not like that. Just wanted some information.... Thanks bunnykiller
IMO the coil probably does not get as hot as the spark/glo plug in your truck. But always side on the side of caution!!
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