Coil & Wicking Kit (Assembling)

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After looking around at different coil and wicking kits out there, I decided to roll my own from previous hobbies. What I have so far.
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Everyone does it their own way and needs their own selection of tools. Once you get going you will figure out which ones you really need. Here's one suggestion. A plastic needle bottle with VG to lubricate o-rings when you are putting tanks back together.
 

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Everyone does it their own way and needs their own selection of tools. Once you get going you will figure out which ones you really need. Here's one suggestion. A plastic needle bottle with VG to lubricate o-rings when you are putting tanks back together.
Yes, that was one of the first things I rounded up way back, for exactly that purpose. O-rings WILL get flubbed up. I've seen SO MANY posts from people who have a tank leaking after disassembly.

Good tip for everyone, lube them o-rings!!
 

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After looking around at different coil and wicking kits out there, I decided to roll my own from previous hobbies. What I have so far.
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For what it's worth, I find ceramic tweezers with plastic threads on them are handy. Great for hot spots, but the plastic threading (or whatever you want to call it) helped me remove a stuck tank more than once already without scratching the hell out of it. Talking about something like this:
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Not a must have, but I like having it around.
Everyone does it their own way and needs their own selection of tools. Once you get going you will figure out which ones you really need. Here's one suggestion. A plastic needle bottle with VG to lubricate o-rings when you are putting tanks back together.
I'll have to try that. Been using vape juice out of the bottle. Pretty messy.
 

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For contact/compressed coils, tweezers. Spaced coils, not needed but can sometimes be useful. Don't need to be ceramic as long as you don't apply power to the coil when you squeeze it to compress it.

As far as lubing orings, if I feel the need, I just use my juice from my bottle. But it's super cheap so maybe that's why I don't care.
 
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For what it's worth, I find ceramic tweezers with plastic threads on them are handy. Great for hot spots, but the plastic threading (or whatever you want to call it) helped me remove a stuck tank more than once already without scratching the hell out of it. Talking about something like this:
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The ceramic tweezers are one thing I do not have, that are definitely good to be in the habit of using. Shorts happen. I'll keep what you've shown here in mind, thanks.

Curved tweezers (Stainless or metal not a good choice IMO) I've also been wanting to find. I'd like tweezers that are non-conductive. Bone or synthetic of some type would be best. I've not looked into those yet. If they're available, they'll likely be expensive. Do you know of any you can suggest?
 

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The ceramic tweezers are one thing I do not have, that are definitely good to be in the habit of using. Shorts happen. I'll keep what you've shown here in mind, thanks.

Curved tweezers (Stainless or metal not a good choice IMO) I've also been wanting to find. I'd like tweezers that are non-conductive. Bone or synthetic of some type would be best. I've not looked into those yet. If they're available, they'll likely be expensive. Do you know of any you can suggest?
No, I don't know of any, but I'll let you know if I come across some. Hopefully someone else has a recommendation for you.

There are curved ceramic tweezers, but the ones I've seen are just metal tweezers with curved ceramic tips, so obviously not 100% non-conductive.
 

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For contact/compressed coils, tweezers. Spaced coils, not needed but can sometimes be useful. Don't need to be ceramic as long as you don't apply power to the coil when you squeeze it to compress it.
I hear what trying to say. I'm good at staving the inevitable when I'm awake, but my being on nerve meds has messed with my cognitive thinking. On that note, I'm going with non-conductive where applicable...lol.
As far as lubing orings, if I feel the need, I just use my juice from my bottle. But it's super cheap so maybe that's why I don't care.
I'm known to use the juice, and saliva on the finger..lol
 

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No, I don't know of any, but I'll let you know if I come across some.
Ditto. Thanks. I'll do some looking around. There are other venues and applications out there available, where something might turn up.
Hopefully someone else has a recommendation for you.
Group efforts. Were all mindful of the same results.
There are curved ceramic tweezers, but the ones I've seen are just metal tweezers with curved ceramic tips, so obviously not 100% non-conductive.
I've used a piece of bone for holding wires together while soldering. Bone would be a good scraper for the coils as well. Something will get sorted as an answer.
 

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If you're interested in the ones @no|ah pictured, MVS still has them Ceramic Vape Tweezers

So does Amazon

I'm sure you can find other stores by googling "vape tweezers" or "spanner tweezers". I didn't check.
For the time being. I'll hold off on those type. I'm tool poor (I have lots) and can get things done other ways.

My next China shopping spree may have some related items added to my list.

The links are appreciated!
 

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Curved tweezers (Stainless or metal not a good choice IMO) I've also been wanting to find. I'd like tweezers that are non-conductive. Bone or synthetic of some type would be best. I've not looked into those yet. If they're available, they'll likely be expensive. Do you know of any you can suggest?
Ceramic tipped will work just fine, but if you really want 100% non conductive curved tweezers (and it sounds to me like that's what you want), titanium is supposedly very close. There's titanium coated and full titanium. These look pretty nice, at a glance, and they're very inexpensive vs. some of the other listings I've seen: Titanium Cross Lock Fiber Grip Curved Tweezers 57.767 - Etsy

If you search for "curved titanium tweezers" there are lots of options.


I've seen some steel ones with rubberized coatings on them as well, so DIY with any kind of rubberized coating or other non conductive medium is an option as well (e.g. ceramic tipped tweezers + rubberized coating on the steel part would theoretically make it fully non-conductive).
 
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Ceramic tipped will work just fine, but if you really want 100% non conductive curved tweezers (and it sounds to me like that's what you want), titanium is supposedly very close. There's titanium coated and full titanium. These look pretty nice, at a glance, and they're very inexpensive vs. some of the other listings I've seen: Titanium Cross Lock Fiber Grip Curved Tweezers 57.767 - Etsy

If you search for "curved titanium tweezers" there are lots of options.

I've seen some steel ones with rubberized coatings on them as well, so DIY with any kind of rubberized coating or other non conductive medium is an option as well (e.g. ceramic tipped tweezers + rubberized coating on the steel part would theoretically make it fully non-conductive).
The Titanium is nice. That style is (too long, not curved) not suited for the use.

I'm not OCD "set" in mind to need to have entirely non-conductive, the curved tips being so, they're fine. I like to see whats out there for specific application for options, before I get froggy.
 

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Call me stupid, but how are titanium tweezers not conductive? I know it's not the best conductor, but it should still cause a short if squeezing a coil while firing, no? Or is it such a poor conductor that it won't short a coil?
I used the word "supposedly" to try to indicate that I'm skeptical :) I'm glad you mentioned it, so now that's clear.

I meant to add that I would, at the very least do more research and still I'd test them out first in a low wattage situation or something.

I looked up non-conductive metals, and titanium came up multiple times as very nearly non-conductive. It could be that it's conductive enough that it's not useful in this application; I'm not sure.
 

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I looked up non-conductive metals, and titanium came up multiple times as very nearly non-conductive. It could be that it's conductive enough that it's not useful in this application; I'm not sure.

I'd be really surprised if it doesn't. But now I wanna try it, cuz I'm bored. But as far as I know I don't have anything made of titanium.
 

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I think you're right @UncLeJunkLe. According to a very brief Google search it's actually somewhat comparable to steel: "The electrical conductivity of titanium is 18 MS/m, the electrical conductivity of stainless steel ranges between 10-50 MS/m, and copper has an electrical conductivity of 100-400 MS/m." (source). So the previous article I read was misleading.

In light of that, I don't think it's a good choice for this application.
 

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