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EvilCake

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So my calc teacher banned e cigs in her classroom, I was just wondering if she could even do that? I.e. its a public room anybody can go in, ecigs are allowed campus wide as far as I know. I vape in my other classes without a problem. P.s this is completely theoretical, I would never cause a scene by going in to class one day, start vaping and telling her that she's basically not my mom. Mostly I was just wondering from a legal standpoint.
 
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She's allowed to dictate rules to her class yes? Like only so many missed absences, punishments for being late, classroom behavior etiquette? It stands to reason that she'd be able to dictate what you can and cannot bring to class. A math teacher might be able to ban calculators. I've known college professors that won't allow food or drink, all perfectly legal to have in general, even on campus.
 

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So my calc teacher banned e cigs in her classroom, I was just wondering if she could even do that? I.e. its a public room anybody can go in, ecigs are allowed campus wide as far as I know. I vape in my other classes without a problem. P.s this is completely theoretical, I would never cause a scene by going in to class one day, start vaping and telling her that she's basically not my mom. Mostly I was just wondering from a legal standpoint.

You should definitely hire a lawyer and sue. What makes someone think they have the right to deny a vaper's Constitutional right to vape anywhere and everywhere?
 

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I teach both graduate and undergraduate classes. I don't vape during lectures and I've asked my students not to on the rare occasion it's come up. Turns out that clouds of vapor wafting to the ceiling is slightly distracting.

The only time I have ever vaped in a classroom setting was in a small study group with a ta. Funny enough, 3 of the 5 people in the room were vapers. So no problem there. However, I would not even ask if it was ok to blow plumes of vapor into the air in the middle of a thermodynamics lecture. That is just distracting to everyone in the room.
 

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Why would you want to vape in class anyways?
Classroom vaping would just make me feel like a total compulsive jack off and end in me feeling self-conscious around all my peers... especially during lectures, etc.
I take a few classes at a CC and one of my professors told me she is fine with it if I wanted to vape in class.
But it's strange because she also has a "no fragrances" policy since she claims to be really sensitive to perfumes and other strong scents.
Doesn't matter though.. I've never asked to vape in class, and I don't have any desire to.
Besides it's nice to have something to look forward to come break time/lunch break.
I started smoking cigarettes in the 21st century, so I don't have as much of the built-in "smoker's entitlement" that my elders seems to have.. back when cigarettes were more accepted by society and people just lit up indoors all the time.
 

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The purpose of my question was to find out if college teachers had the authority to ban something for no reason other than they didnt like it. I.e. stealth vaping- its silent odorless and vapor less. I have no problem if that is indeed the case. I'm simply the courious type.

Of course they do. I had a professor who wouldn't allow men to wear haps/caps in class. He was 80 years old, literally wrote most of the books in his field and no one questioned his authority in the classroom. This was 10 years ago and before the me generation, though.
 

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BEE! There's a BEE IN THE CLASSROOM!
Hahah who doesn't remember that one? Classic.

Anyways, No. A school is private property and you must abide by the rules of the faculty or they can legally have you removed. Trust me, I have researched this extensively. My teachers often referred to my class of 09' as, and I quote, "the worst class to have ever gone through this school" Which I think is unfair because 30% of us were never even there, but I digress... Back then e-cigarettes were only of the cig-alike variety and we routinely smoked in the bathroom each lunchwave. We did suggest they allow us to smoke outside the lunchroom exit door but they wouldn't even consider it. So we continued packing the bathroom stalls 3 or 4 to a stall. The paid hall monitor often came in to suspend everyone that came out of a stall with more than 1 person in it, but that stopped when we started packing in non-smoker friends & threatening that we felt uncomfortable with a man standing in the bathrooms all the time. Then the doors of the bathroom were wedged open. But that stopped when the two teachers in the classrooms next to the bathroom started complaining that the smell was disrupting their classes. Then teachers were assigned to stand outside the bathroom doors during the lunch periods, and mysteriously the bathroom window fell out of the frame. Then a very curvy life-size woman doing yoga was scratched into the bathroom wall. After that the doors stayed closed, a window with a crank was installed, and our school got the first hall security cameras out of all the high schools in our town. It made the paper! No one bothered the smokers anymore and we all graduated by the skin of our teeth. It was a magical time.

What I'm trying to say is, your teacher can impose any rules he or she wants to impose.
Just go to the bathroom. You've got it so easy with good e-cigarettes and PVs, they leave no smell.
You could poke your head outside the door if you have to. Or do it in the hall.
 
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This is the same thing I hear from my students about texting in class. "hey, I am being discrete and nobody notices" Well, people do and it is a distraction so I would ask you to not vape in my class. You can wait the hour or two just like I can ( if you can't , well, that is a whole other issue).
 

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The school backing an imposed classroom rule would depend on that particular school's administration. Usually if a teacher's classroom rule is sensible, the administration will back it up. The classroom is the teacher's office. If you work for a business one day and your boss tells you not to vape in his office, you better listen to him. Because the human relations mediation department is going to back your boss. A school is a private property and if you repeatedly break a teacher or admin's rules, you will repeatedly be asked to leave, or expelled. & and expulsion is a legally binding restraint order believe it or not. Its no different from an order from the police department mandating you stay away from someone's home. The school has all the rights that a private property would have.

Have you ever heard of a "Sit-In" Protest? They are actually illegal. My class held a walk-out, to protest the ban on wearing Halloween costumes to school on Halloween. A good amount of us did walk out of 4th period class and we were met by police officers. The officers actually allowed the protest and we walked down the street. My friends and I left the line and apparently the protesters that went back into the school had a meeting with the administration in the auditorium and were told that they should always try talking to the administration before staging a protest. Everyone that didn't go back into the school was suspended (me, and my group of friends) and on halloween day, 90% of the protesters didn't wear costumes anyway.

What I'm trying to say is that you should just try talking to the administration about your nicotine cravings. They will probably just tell you to ask to go to the bathroom to have a vape.
 
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