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leaford

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I just got my first-time order of 30ml refill bottles. Something is majorly wrong and I have sent out a personal message to rocks82 and I am sure V4L will help me out. However, it got me to wondering about juice color. I have purchased about 8 different flavors in 5ml bottles over the past 6 weeks....and in every case, the color has been well......pee color....for the most part. Some a half shade lighter than others...but all pretty much golden color. Has anyone ever gotten one that is red? The odor is hard to describe...but seems somehow familar. If this is a case of mislabelling, I am curious about wht it actually is. It sorta smells like vanilla something.....I think...and tastes horrid. Can anyone ID it based on it being red? Might help V4L track down the problem too.

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Yes, some juices are red. And some are yellow.

That's the new Kant you have there. When we switched from ordering our liquid through our manufacturer to ordering it directly some of the tobacco flavors changed. That was not intentional, all they were supposed to do was make them stronger. But for whatever reason the liquid manufacturer changed them. Maybe because the middle man ordered them in Chinese, and we were ordering in English, so they couldn't match our order up against their past orders. ;)

But I have acquired samples of the original Kant, and am having the original Kant recreated. The new samples taste the same as the original to me, and have the same yellow color. So original Kant is returning soon, and the carts will be the original paltinum color, too! :thumb:
 

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oh geezzz. i thought the 30mls would be the new stuff? (i don't know why, i'm not blaming anyone for me thinking that.) i gotta say, i sympathize, maxx, cause now that i've got my flavors narrowed down... i mean, if they're gonna change 'em or if something comes in 'wrong', okay, stuff happens, but don't let me order it thinking it's gonna be, well. what i ordered, if it's not.
 

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Well...I won't be buying any more Kant unless I am certain it is old Kant. I might as well pour this red stuff down the drain because there is no way I will vape it. Maybe if I dilute it or something....I don't know. In the same order I got 30ml of SMILIN. To me, it is also different....but not so that I can't vape it, so it is not a total loss on that one. That's one thing about menthol....it's tough to screw it up beyond being somewhat usable. BTW...my SMILIN is almost as red as the new Kant. Not sure what original SMILIN's color was.

Oh well....the next on my list down is parlament, but I see another thread about that one as well. People saying it is "musty". I might try Kent from another supplier until the flavors stabalize a bit.
 

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I have a serious concern for my order which should be arriving tomorrow (edit...monday, my mistake) now!!!!!

The thick red juice, as in most of the "older" stock 20ml bottles that i have, are NOT what i want......

I was under the same impression as Bellitrist that the 30ml would be more like the "new" stock!

I have 30ml of Smilin, Dunhall, and CMF coming....
and if they are that dark red juice, not the light yellow that i seem to love so much more, I will likely be very upset....(Yes, i will of course try them first before jumping to that conclusion..... but from experience, the dark red juice is NOT what tastes good to me)... (IE...old 20ml doc pep...dark red, foul!..... 5ml doc pep, yellow tinge... awesome!)

im more than a little concerned....
 

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Maxx,
like I said, now im more than apprehensive about the arrival of the order......

I'll give them all the same chance that i have before, and hell... i may in fact like them, i wont discount that!

but, if history repeats itself.... as it likes to do....
I may find myself in the same situation as you.

personally, as bellitrist said,
i thought that the 30ml's would be the "new" stock, from which i have had were all the light yellow tinge juice that was very tasty, great, vapor-ific....
personally, that experience is not expected now....
and, i hope for the best.... at least.
 

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I hope it goes well for you V4Lis4me.....but I won't buy any 30ml bottles at this point. I don't mind a couple dollars going to waste on a small bottle or carto in a sampler, but the 30ml are just too pricey to gamble on an unknown for me. I believe leaford when he says he is working hard to get the old Kant back....but that will take time and I figure they will want to sell off this current stock. When I am sure the old recipe is in place...I will buy large again.
 
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